Maxxie 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I think most of us will be making out own edits here and there with this new box set, so I thought I'd show you what I've done with the music from Raiders and Crusade. It's a kind of cue list, if you will. I'll be doing KotCS next, and saving ToD 'til last - because it's my fave! So, off we go;RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK1) - The Raiders March (Concord)2) - South America, 1936 / In The Jungle3) - In The Idol's Temple4) - Escape From The Temple5) - Flight From Peru6) - Washington Men / Indy's Home7) - A Thought For Marion / To Nepal8) - The Medallion9) - Flight To Cairo10) - The Basket Game11) - "Bad Dates"12) - The Map Room: Dawn13) - Reunion In The Tent / Searching For The Well14) - The Well Of The Souls15) - Uncovering The Ark16) - Marion Into The Pit17) - Through The Wall18) - The Mummy Cave 19) - Airplane Fight20) - Indy In Pursuit / Desert Chase (DCC)21) - Marion's Theme / The Crate22) - The German Sub23) - Ride To The Nazi Hideout24) - Indy Follows The Ark25) - The Miracle Of The Ark26) - The Warehouse & End CreditsOTHER CUES1) - The Raiders March (Alternate - DCC)2) - The Rolling Ball (Insert)3) - The Raiders March (Concert Alternate)4) - Indy In Pursuit / Desert Chase (Alternate - Concord crap)5) - The Warehouse & End Credits (Alternate - DCC)6) - Through The Wall (Alternate)7) - The Forbidden Eye8) - The Warehouse & End Credits (Alternate - Film)THE LAST CRUSADE1) - Utah, 1912 / Indy's Very First Adventure2) - The Portuguese Coast, 19383) - Package From Dad / To Donovan's House4) - The Legend Of The Holy Grail / Inscription On The Rock5) - Father's Study6) - Flight To Venice / X Marks The Spot7) - Into The Catacombs 8) - "Ah, Rats!" / The Tomb Of Sir Richard9) - Speedboat Chase (with extended opening)10) - Journey To Austria11) - Searching For Dad12) - Father And Son Reunited13) - "Don't Call Me Junior!" / Elsa's Betrayal14) - Marcus In Iskendurun15) - Marcus Is Captured / To Berlin16) - The Austrian Way17) - "The Floor's On Fire.....And The Chair!" / "Alarm!"18) - Motorbike Chase19) - Retrieving The Diary / Meeting Hitler20) - First Flight From Germany21) - No Ticket22) - Turning Around / Back To Germany / Leaving The Zeppelin23) - Brother Of The Cruciform Sword / Reunion With Sallah24) - Death Of Kazim25) - On The Tank26) - The Belly Of The Steel Beast / Indy vs Fogel27) - Indy's Alive / The Canyon Of The Crescent Moon28) - Professor Jones Is Shot / "The Penitent Man Will Pass"29) - The Name Of God / A Leap Of Faith30) - The Last Knight / The Keeper Of The Grail31) - "He Chose Poorly" / "You Chose Wisely"32) - Elsa Falls / "Illumination" / Finale & End CreditsOTHER CUES1) - Indy's Fanfare (Unused)2) - Motorbike Chase (Concert Alternate)3) - Keeping Up With The Joneses / The Biplane Chase (Unused)4) - Nazi Theme (Insert)5) - Keeping Up With The Joneses (Alternate)6) - Nazi Theme (Insert)7) - Keeping Up With The Joneses (Alternate, revised section)8) - Indy's Fanfare (Unused)That's all for now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DejaQ 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 This is what I plan to do for Last Crusade (tracks followed by a Roman numeral fade into each other).*Previously Unreleased**Contains Unreleased MaterialI – Indy's Very First AdventureII – To VeniceIII – The Tomb of Sir RichardIV – Germany Declares War on the Jones BoysV – To Hatay RepublicVI – The Rescue of Henry and MarcusVII – The Final ChallengeVIII - Finale and End CreditsUtah, 1912** (I)Cross of Coronado (I)Circus Train (Film Version)** (I)The Portuguese Coast, 1938 (I)Package from Venice*Legend of the Holy Grail*Father's Study (II)Don't Trust Anyone (II)'X' Marks the Spot** (III)Into the Catacombs* (III)Ah, Rats!! (III)Canal Chase**Journey to AustriaNazi StrongholdThe Two Joneses (Film Version)*Contains the "Don't Call Me Junior" tag[*]Traitors*[*]Iskenderun (Source)*[*]Marcus is Captured (IV)[*]The Austrian Way (IV)[*]Alarm! (IV)[*]Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra (IV)[*]Blasphemy[*]Piefke - Königgrätzer Marsch (Arranged)* (Source)[*]First Flight from Germany[*]No Ticket[*]Back to Germany[*]Keeping up with the Joneses (Film Version)* (V)Contains the Raiders March tag from the film[*]An Offer for the Sultan* (V)[*]Brother of the Cruciform Sword (V)[*]A Messenger from God (Film Version)*Contains the Nazi march and "The Other Jones" tags[*]Belly of the Steel Beast (VI)[*]The Pen Is Mightier Than the Sword (Film Version)* (VI)Contains both tags[*]On the Tank (VI)[*]Canyon of the Crescent Moon[*]The Penitent Man Will Pass* (VII)[*]The Word of God and A Leap of Faith (VII)[*]Keeper of the Grail (VII)[*]A Choice (VII)[*]Illumination (VIII)[*]Raiders March (VIII)[*]Keeper of the Grail (Reprise) (VIII)[*]Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra (Reprise) (VIII)[*]Raiders March (Reprise) (VIII)[*]Circus Train (Alternate)[*]The Two Joneses (Original Recording)*[*]Keeping up with the Joneses (Original Recording)*[*]Messenger from God (Original Recording)[*]The Pen is Mightier than the Sword (Original Recording)[*]Keeping up with the Joneses (Alternate)[*][*][*]Unused Raiders March tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted account 108 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Thanks to the miracle of ipod playlists, I ripped in the 5 cds from the boxset straight as they are and then made playlists of the scores in film order. then i took the cues that weren't completely right and made edits of just those cues in Sony Vegas and Sound Forge, added those to my ipod and swapped those out in the playlists. in the case of temple of doom, i ended up doing a lot more because i wanted to have the option of listening to the cues separately or all cut together, which meant quite a few huuuuge pieces (for example, from "Deal for Diamonds" all the way to "The Village" is all one track). For Last Crusade I even made a playlist with the bootleg tracks in the proper place and another without them since they're such poor audio fidelity. Having different playlists enables quite a bit of flexibility without using a lot of storage space on the ipod.My KOTCS is the same way - the album ripped straight in and then a playlist in film order with replacement edits only for the cues that required them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I'm own Indy scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DejaQ 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I'm own Indy scores?You better believe you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 I'm own Indy scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I'm own Indy scores? You're own Indy scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 man leave him alone english is not that easy.... oh wait are you really from the Uk maxxie?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Nice idea. I sequenced everything and arranged my additional material using my download 'preview' version last week, so I just had to rip my set and I was all set.And I renamed a load from Crusade and KotCS, I hate Williams' titles sometimes.I haven't done much editing. Just Out of Fuel/Slalom. They just felt wrong to be apart.Raiders:In the JungleThe Idol TempleEscape from the TempleFlight From PeruWashington Men, Indy's HomeA Thought for MarionThe MedallionFlight to CairoThe Basket GameBad DatesThe Map Room: DawnReunion in the TentThe Well of the SoulsUncovering the ArkIndy Rides the Statue (leaked version)Through the Wall (actual Indy Rides...)The Fist FightDesert ChaseMarion's Theme/The CrateThe German SubRide to the Nazi HideoutIndy Follows the ArkThe Miracle of the ArkWashington Ending & Raiders MarchBonus tracks:Desert Chase (Film Version)The Well of the Souls (Extended LP)The Indiana Jones Adventure {not sure where this came from, but I think it's a theme park ride piece}Raiders March (DCC version)Temple:Anything GoesIndy NegotiatesThe Nightclub BrawlFast Streets of ShanghaiOver the HimalayasIndy and the VillagersDeparting the VillageRide to Pankot PalaceNocturnal ActivitiesThe Secret PassageBug Tunnel & Death TrapApproaching the StonesChildren in ChainsThe Sanskrit CeremonyShort Round EscapesSaving WillieFreeing the SlavesUnderground HeroicsThe Mine Car ChaseWater!The Sword TrickOn the Rope BridgeThe Broken Bridge/British ReliefReturn to the VillageEnd CreditsBonus tracks:The Map (Film Insert)Parade of the Slave Children {some re-recorded concert version, no idea what album}Finale and End Credits {another re-recording, contains the conterpoint and a slower, lusher version of the love theme}Crusade:Utah, 1912The Portuguese Coast (The Boat Scene)Packet From Dad (boot)The Legend of the Holy Grail (boot)Ransacked House (Father's Study)X Marks the SpotAh, Rats!!!Escape from VeniceJourney to AustriaCastle Brunwald (Father and Son Reunited)Professor Jones (boot)The Austrian WayFire! (Alarm!)Scherzo for Motorcycle and OrchestraMarcus is Captured, BlasphemyFirst Flight From Germany (To the Blimp)No TicketThe Blimp Turns Around"Fly Yes, Land No!" (Keeping Up With the Joneses alternate)Keeping Up With the Joneses (boot)Brother of the Cruciform SwordDeath of KazimThe Pen is Mightier Than the Sword (On the Tank)Belly of the Steel BeastThe Canyon of the Crescent MoonThe Penitent Man Will Pass (boot - Professor Jones is Shot)The Name of God, Leap of Faith (The penitent Man Will Pass)The Keeper of the Grail"He Chose Poorly", Professor Jones is HealedTemple Destroyed and End CreditsKotCS:The Adventures of MuttIrina's ThemeThe Spell of the SkullThe Warehouse EscapeSpalko's DossierA Whirl Through AcademeThe Journey to AkatorGrave RobbersInside the Tomb (Secret Doors and Scorpions)The Snake Pit"Return"The Jungle Chase (extended)Ants!, Over the CliffThe Temple Opens (Hidden Treasure and the City of Gold)Chamber of Thrones (Temple Ruins and the Secret Revealed)The Departure"Knowledge was Their Treasure"The Wedding and End CreditsCall of the CrystalRaiders March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I'm own Indy scores? You're own Indy scores YOUR own Indy scores!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Whose?Anyway, here is how my ToD edit is shaping up:1. Anything Goes2. Shanghai 19353. Deal For The Diamond/The Nightclub Brawl/Fast Streets Of Shanghai/Over The Himalayas/Slalom on Mt Humol/The Village4. Indy and the Villagers/Shankara/Fortune And Glory/Departing The Village5. The Scroll/To Pankot Palace6. The Maharajah7. The Feast8. Nocturnal Activities/The Secret Passage/The Death Trap9. First Ceremony ('Sanskrit Ceremony' Film Edit 1)10. Approaching The Stones11. Children in Chains/A True Believer/The Black Sleep Of Kali/The Second Ceremony ("Sanskrit Ceremony" Film Edit 2)12. Short Round Escapes13. Indy Wakes Up/Saving Willie/Freeing The Slaves/Short Round Helps14. The Mine Car Chase15. Water!/The Sword Trick/On The Rope Bridge/The Broken Bridge/Return to the Village/End CreditsLet me know if you have any suggestions. As you can see, I like my tracks long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Okay, here we go. I will only post my "Raiders of the Lost Ark" for now, because of the surprising difficulty that it presented.1. South America, 1936 (Concord)2. The Idol Temple (Concord)3. Escape from the Temple (Concord)4. Flight from Peru (Concord)5. Washington Men/ Indy's Home (Concord)6. A Thought for Marion/ To Nepal (Concord)7. The Medallion (Concord)8. Flight to Cairo (Concord)9. The Basket Game (Concord)10. Bad Dates (Concord)11. The Map Room: Dawn (Concord)12. Reunion in the Tent/ Searching for the Well (Concord)13. The Well of Souls (Concord)14. Through the Wall (Concord)15. Pffist Fight (Concord)16. Desert Chase (Concord)17. Marion's Theme/ The Crate (Concord)18. The German Sub (Concord)19. Ride to the Nazi Hideout (Concord)20. Ark Trek (Concord)21. Miracle of the Ark (Concord)22.Washington Ending & Raider's March (Concord)Boy, was that hard work! Those track titles were rather difficult to create, as well. "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I've only done TOD so far. Some with the help of Jason's editing package, some I've left as is. Still designing artwork for it.1. ANYTHING GOES2. SHANGHAI, 19353. RETURNING NURHACHE4. CHAOS AT CLUB OBI-WAN5. FAST STREETS OF SHANGHAI6. OVER THE HIMALAYAS/OUT OF FUEL7. SLALOM ON MT. HUMOL8. THE VILLAGE9. THE SHAMAN'S TALE10. THE TREK11. THE SCROLL/TO PANKOT12. NOCTURNAL ACTIVITIES13. THE SECRET PASSAGE14. BUG TUNNEL/DEATH TRAP15. STEALING THE STONES16. CHILDREN IN CHAINS/A TRUE BELIEVER17. SHORT ROUND ESCAPES18. UNDERGROUND HEROICS19. THE MINE CAR CHASE20. WATER!/THE SWORD TRICK/THE BROKEN BRIDGE/BRITISH RELIEF21. RETURN TO THE VILLAGE/END CREDITS22. ANYTHING GOES (INSTRUMENTAL)23. OVER THE HIMALAYAS (FILM VERSION)24. OUT OF FUEL (REVISED SECTION)25. THE SHAMAN'S TALE (ALTERNATE)26. SANKARA/FORTUNE AND GLORY27. TO PANKOT (REVISED SECTION)28. THE MAHARAJAH/THE FEAST29. SANSKRIT CEREMONY (FILM VERSION)30. SANSKRIT CEREMONY (ALBUM VERSION)31. WILLIE INTO THE PIT/INDY WAKES UP32. END CREDITS (ALBUM VERSION) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Sorry, when I said "your own Indy scores" I meant "your own Indy EDITS". My bad! Are you really from the Uk maxxie?? Sadly yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I made my sister a copy of Temple of Doom on 2 CDs, here is how they look. It's also pretty much how I listen to them. And, of course, I changed some of the track titles.I combined Out of Fuel with Slalom into one single track. There is no way I'll ever listen to Slalom by itself ever again, so that needed to be one track. Then, I combined Saving Willie, Slave Children and Shorty Helps to run continuously without pause, but made them seperate tracks that run together. This is essential in my view, there is a momentum that starts in "Saving Willie" that doesn't let up until the trio land in that mine car. This is the only way these tracks should be heard. But Slave Children is probably THE centerpiece of the whole score and I didn't want it buried in the middle of an 11-minute track, that's why I set it up as three tracks that run together. Just from an album point of view, Slave Childrens Crusade needed to be distinguished.I don't feel the rest of the music benefits from running together. All the others... Secret Passage (which I am liking more and more), Bug Tunnel, Nocturnal Activities, Nightclub Brawl, Fast Streets etc. are all great cues that work as individual standalone pieces. I'm not too fond of the iso score type listening experience, I generally like pauses in between tracks."The Temple of Doom" should only go after Bug Tunnel, it doesn't belong anywhere else. After they get out of the spike room, they see the Temple ceremony, so too should it be that way on the album. Then Indy steals the stones, then they are all captured, then Shorty breaks free. Moving the Temple ceremony music in the middle of that doesn't feel right, plus its a perfect way to start off the second disc right at the middle point of the score. Short Rounds musical escape makes sense coming right after Children In Chains.I didn't put any of the ripped DVD stuff among the released tracks, the difference in sound quality is noticeable to me so I kept them as bonus tracks. Also, as I mentioned before Slave Children is the major theme of the movie so I included the wonderful concert version as a bonus track. Same with the English version of Anything Goes, it's a fun "alternate".Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Disc 11. Shanghai 1935 (Anything Goes)2. Deal for the Diamond3. The Nightclub Brawl4. Fast Streets of Shanghai5. Out of Fuel/Slalom on Mt. Humol6. A Plea for Help7. Short Round's Theme8. The Scroll/Pankot Palace9. Nocturnal Activities10. The Secret Passage11. Bug Tunnel and Death TrapBonus Tracks:12. Anything Goes [English lyrics]13. Over The Himalayas [film version]14. Fortune and Glory15. Maharaja/The FeastIndiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Disc 21. The Temple of Doom2. The Sankara Stones3. Children In Chains4. Short Round's Escape5. Rescuing Willie*6. Slave Children's Crusade*7. Underground Chaos *8. Mine Car Chase9. Water!10. The Sword Trick11. The Broken Bridge12. Return to the Village and End CreditsBonus Tracks13. A True Believer14. The Rope Bridge15. Parade of the Slave Children [bPO concert version] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Lohner 0 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I'm own Indy scores? You're own Indy scores YOUR own Indy scores!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 That looks good Mr Scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Just changed my ToD edit slightly. Not sure why I hadn't noticed that "Anything Goes" and "Shanghai 1935" should be combined. Anyways, here it is:1. Anything Goes/Shanghai 19352. Deal For The Diamond/The Nightclub Brawl/Fast Streets Of Shanghai/Over The Himalayas/Slalom on Mt Humol/The Village3. Indy and the Villagers/Shankara/Fortune And Glory/Departing The Village4. The Scroll/To Pankot Palace5. The Maharajah6. The Feast7. Nocturnal Activities/The Secret Passage/The Death Trap8. First Ceremony ('Sanskrit Ceremony' Film Edit 1)9. Approaching The Stones10. Children in Chains/A True Believer/The Black Sleep Of Kali/The Second Ceremony ("Sanskrit Ceremony" Film Edit 2)11. Short Round Escapes12. Indy Wakes Up/Saving Willie/Freeing The Slaves/Short Round Helps13. The Mine Car Chase14. Water!/The Sword Trick/On The Rope Bridge/The Broken Bridge/Return to the Village/End Credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Right, let's start again. Scratch inspired me to separate the bonus tracks across discs, so instead of writing it out again I'll just post the section from my CD cover. In terms of editing, I didn't do a huge amount, aside from a bit of volume increases and the likes. But I did edit:Chaos at Club Obi-Wan (Nightclub Brawl) with Anything Goes overdubs.Over The Himalayas (Film Version)Children In Chains with A True Believer from the DVDThe three Underground Chaos tracks togetherWater! with The Sword Trick, the rope percussion, The Broken Bridge/British ReliefReturn to the Village with the RPO end credits and the album end credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,171 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 man leave him alone english is not that easy.... oh wait Leichter wie Deutsch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 2. Deal For The Diamond/The Nightclub Brawl/Fast Streets Of Shanghai/Over The Himalayas/Slalom on Mt Humol/The Village14. Water!/The Sword Trick/On The Rope Bridge/The Broken Bridge/Return to the Village/End Credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Meaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I combined Out of Fuel with Slalom into one single track. There is no way I'll ever listen to Slalom by itself ever again, so that needed to be one track. Then, I combined Saving Willie, Slave Children and Shorty Helps to run continuously without pause, but made them seperate tracks that run together. This is essential in my view, there is a momentum that starts in "Saving Willie" that doesn't let up until the trio land in that mine car. This is the only way these tracks should be heard. But Slave Children is probably THE centerpiece of the whole score and I didn't want it buried in the middle of an 11-minute track, that's why I set it up as three tracks that run together. Just from an album point of view, Slave Childrens Crusade needed to be distinguished.I don't feel the rest of the music benefits from running together. All the others... Secret Passage (which I am liking more and more), Bug Tunnel, Nocturnal Activities, Nightclub Brawl, Fast Streets etc. are all great cues that work as individual standalone pieces. I'm not too fond of the iso score type listening experience, I generally like pauses in between tracks.Those are just some mammoth tracks, Colin. Just because two cues or tracks can be edited together doesn't mean they must be edited together. To each his own though, that's the beauty of the digital age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Ah, I see. I thought maybe I had made a chronological mistake or something.The reason I like long tracks is because I make a complete chrono album in my playlist, and then that is the playlist I listen to when I want to listen to a score all the way through (most of the time). If I ever want to hear just one cue separated, I have the original album to go to. That is my thought process.It is pretty cool, though, that we can all make edits exactly how we want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 What are the track times on those two big ones, like 20 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Deal For The Diamond/The Nightclub Brawl/Fast Streets Of Shanghai/Over The Himalayas/Slalom on Mt Humol/The Villageis 16:41 andWater!/The Sword Trick/On The Rope Bridge/The Broken Bridge/Return to the Village/End Creditsis 19:01.Yeah, there pretty big. I love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 The reason I like long tracks is because I make a complete chrono album in my playlist, and then that is the playlist I listen to when I want to listen to a score all the way through (most of the time). If I ever want to hear just one cue separated, I have the original album to go to. That is my thought process.Yeah, if you're going to listen to the full score anyway you might as well combine tracks as the composer intended. I mean, tell me that "Indy Negotiates" and "Nightclub Brawl" aren't really just a single piece of music recorded in parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Yeah, if you're going to listen to the full score anyway you might as well combine tracks as the composer intended. I mean, tell me that "Indy Negotiates" and "Nightclub Brawl" aren't really just a single piece of music recorded in parts.Do you see Negotiates/Brawl/Fast Streets/Out of Fuel/Slalom/Villagers as a single piece of music in Williams' mind that he happened to recorded in parts? For the most part, I see them as individual setpieces that Williams knew were going to bump shoulders with each other. I'm not being argumentative here, just interested in how we see the music differently and doing our own "versions" of the score. Whatever works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Do you see Negotiates/Brawl/Fast Streets... as a single piece of music in Williams' mind that he happened to recorded in parts?Yes. Do you see ... Out of Fuel/Slalom/Villagers as a single piece of music in Williams' mind that he happened to recorded in parts?Yes. (I'm talking about the unreleased "The Village." "Indy and the Villagers" is a later cue.)The transitions here are very clear cut; each piece leads naturally into the next. But I'll give you "Map / Out of Fuel" - it just kind of starts while "Fast Streets of Shanghai" is fading out, so there's nothing particularly musical about combining them. By the way,"The Temple of Doom" should only go after Bug Tunnel, it doesn't belong anywhere else. After they get out of the spike room, they see the Temple ceremony, so too should it be that way on the album. Then Indy steals the stones, then they are all captured, then Shorty breaks free. Moving the Temple ceremony music in the middle of that doesn't feel right, plus its a perfect way to start off the second disc right at the middle point of the score. Short Rounds musical escape makes sense coming right after Children In Chains.I definitely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksparrow900 32 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 heres my listRaiders of the lost ark1. South America/ In The Idol's Temple2. Escape From The Temple (insert included)3. Flight From Peru4. Government Agents5. Journey To Nepal6. The Medallion7. To Cairo8. The Marketplace (source)9. The Basket Chase10. The Bar (source)11. The Posioning/ Bad dates12. The Map Room Dawn / Reunion the Dig Begins13. The Well of The Souls/ Uncovering The Ark14. Marion In The Pit15. Through The Wall/ The Mummy Cave (film version)16. Airplane Fight17. Desert Chase18. Marion's Theme (film version)19. The German Sub/ To The Nazi Hideout20. Ark trek21. The Miracle Of The Ark22. The Warehouse/ End Credits (film version)Temple Of Doom1. Anything Goes2. Shanghai 19353. A Tribute To Vernon4. Indy Neogitaties/ Nightclub brawl/ fast streets of shanghai/ map/out of fuel/ slalom on mt. humol/ the starving village5. Indy And The Villagers/ Fortune And Glory/ Short Round's Theme6. The scroll/ To pankot palace (insert included)7. pankot palace(source)8. The Maraharajah / the feast9. nocturnal activities/ secret passages/ bug tunnel and death trap10. sanskirt ceremony11. approaching the stones12. children in chains/ a true believer13. The Ceremony/ short round escapes/ willie's sacrifice/ saving willie/ slave children's crusade/ short round helps14. the mine car chase15. water/ sword trick/ rope bridge/ broken bridge british relief/ return to the village/ raiders march/ end creditsLast Crusade1. Indy's very first adventure/ dunn and duffy Circus train/ the portuguese coast2. packet from dad / to donovan's3. just a gigolo (source)4. the legend of the holy grail5. father's study/ flight to venice6. x marks the spot7. the secret enterance8. the catacombs/ ah rats9. escape from venice10. your a sweet little headache11. venice (source)12. journey to austria13. nazi stronghold14. father and son reunited15. elsa's betrayal16. inskendrun (source)17. marcus captured18. the austrian way/ alarm/ schrezo for motorcycle and orchestra19. to berlin/ nazis march20. to the blimp21. no ticket22. zeppelin piano (source)23. the blimp turns around24. the birds of charlemagne25. hatay (source)26. reunion27. death of kazim28. belly of the steel beast/ on the tank 29. the canyon of the crescent moon30. henry shot 31. the word of god/ the leap of faith/ the keeper of the grail/ the wrong chalice/ donovan's death32. elsa falls/illumination/ end credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Mr. Scratch, what is "Anything Goes" (English Lyrics)? Who sings it, what is the story behind it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,280 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Mr. Scratch, what is "Anything Goes" (English Lyrics)? Who sings it, what is the story behind it?http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00...ZW4/jwfancom-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Ah, I see. Is it any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,280 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Here's my Raiders (just consists of combination of cues from DCC and Concord):1. Raiders March2. In the Jungle3. The Idol Temple4. Escape from the Temple5. Flight From Peru6. Washington Men/Indy's Home7. Journey to Nepal8. The Medallion9. To Cairo10. The Basket Game (DCC)11. Bad Dates12. Map Room: Dawn (Concord)13. Reunion in the Tent/Searching for the Well14. The Well of Souls (Concord)15. Uncovering the Ark16. Indy Rides the Statue17. The Fist Fight/The Flying Wing18. Desert Chase (DCC)19. Marion's Theme/The Crate20. The German Sub21. Ride to the Nazi Hideout22. Ark Trek23. The Miracle of the Ark (DCC)24. Washington Ending & Raiders MarchTotal: 1 hour, 22 minutes, 44 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Ah, I see. Is it any good?No, I certainly don't recommend that album. That version of Anything Goes is no replacement for the original film version, to be sure, but I thought it made a fun bonus track. I think its one of the better tracks from that album, though that isn't saying much. I don't think throwing every scrap of music we have from any source is the best way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,280 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Here's my Raiders (just consists of combination of cues from DCC and Concord):10. The Basket Game (DCC)23. The Miracle of the Ark (DCC)Why these 2 from DCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I thought they were pretty much the same on either version. Is there a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,280 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Nope, there is no difference, so why take them from the DCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Well it had to be one or the other, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,280 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Yes, and what I've been trying to find out from you is, why did you choose the DCC over the Concord for those 2 tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I dunno. Just a random pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 The Concord has better quality than the DCC, doesn't it? I just listened to the DCC (I assume. It was from a boot) "Desert Chase", and while the difference was not huge, there certainly was one, and the DCC was also a little quieter. I am considering making an edit of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,280 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Right.I could understand somebody using all the tracks from the Concord except "Desert Chase" from the DCC for better qualityAnd I could see somebody using everything from DCC except the newly released cues from Concord for the correct speedI don't understand why you'd mix and matchAlso: "Miracle Of The Ark" on the DCC has the ending of "Ark Trek" still playing in the beginning of it, where as on the Concord set they are separated properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I still have to listen to the boxset, so I'll have to wait before making a statement about Raiders sound quality. However, I always found the DCC Raiders a spectacular sounding CD. It's crisp, detailed and dynamic. Wasn't it considered an audiophile release from the beginning? It was even pressed on gold-enhanced platters as well, if I remember right.When something is amazingly recorded as Raiders, we must tip our hats to the original engineer. So, kudos to the great Mr Eric Tomlinson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Here is my Raiders edit as it stands now:1. Into The Jungle/The Cave2. The Rolling Ball (with insert)3. Flight From Peru4. Washington Men/Indy's Home/A Thought For Marion5. The Medallion6. Flight To Cairo7. The Basket Game8. Bad Dates9. The Map Room: Dawn10. Reunion In The Tent/Search For The Well11. The Floor That Moves/Uncovering The Ark/LP Well Of Souls/Escaping The Pit12. The Fist Fight/The Flying Wing13. Desert Chase (DCC Version)14. Marion's Theme/The Crate15. The German Sub16. Ride To The Nazi Hideout17. Indy Follows The Ark18. The Miracle Of The Ark/Washington Ending & Raiders March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 So nearly got RAIDERS on one disk... I did most things as normal, replacing Desert Chase/The Warehouse/End Credits with their DCC counterparts, and adding the leak material and the LP extra bit.Now to LAST CRUSADE, which might be a weekend job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 In a month, when I get back home from the cruiseship, I'll be very interested in giving some of your edits a listen.What exactly is in this "editing package" that, I think, Jason LeBlanc is sending out?Is there any chance of anyone giving me a good definitive version in about a month?I don't object to some DVD rips being used, as long as there's not too much SFX.It'd also be great to have some of the alternate music from the LEGO Indiana Jones video game included.And the "Rope Bridge" percussion is an absolute must, of course, as well as a proper film edit of the "End Credits".Has anyone edited an as-complete-as-possible version of the "Rope Bridge" and the alternate "They Stole the Children" yet?Did I understand correctly that Miss Padmé made a "Nightclub Brawl" version with the "Anything Goes" overlay?And did anyone made a "Desert Chase" DCC/Concord combo? Does that work to some extent?And if not, doesn't "Desert Chase" feel out of place amongst the Concord tracks when giving the score a full listen?Also are there any more specifics on crumbs' expanded KotCS?How's the sound quality on the tracks? Where's the SFX? Which parts are clean?Could anyone answering please send me a PM as well?With my slow Internet, it's hard to find any replies through all the dozens of pages here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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