indy4 155 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I've listened to this piece more and more, and every time it gets better. It is a great piece of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I think it's rather uninteresting and "meh." John Williams writing small 5 minute pieces of music fail to please to me. Kinda like with A Timeless Call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I think it's rather uninteresting and "meh." John Williams writing small 5 minute pieces of music fail to please to me. Kinda like with A Timeless Call.Do you not like , either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I think it's rather uninteresting and "meh." John Williams writing small 5 minute pieces of music fail to please to me. Kinda like with A Timeless Call.This is much different than Timeless Call. There was nothing in the score to that short that would make me buy a CD release (except the fact that JW scored it). Then again, the short itself was pretty average."Air and Simple Gifts" really is great, IMO. And that's coming from someone who isn't a big fan of Copland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Somebody remind me what A Timeless Call is again. >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I've listened to this piece more and more, and every time it gets better. It is a great piece of music.How can this be? What nonsense is this, that it gets better and better? Isn't its goodness fixed as a matter of fact, and measurably only in the year 2309? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I think it's rather uninteresting and "meh." John Williams writing small 5 minute pieces of music fail to please to me. Kinda like with A Timeless Call.Do you not like , either?well, it's even better in full orchestraAnyways it confirms to me that main melody isn't remotely composed by Williams .The bookend Rosewoodish theme isn't that great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 206 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Cool, they used the back-up recording! Without any noise from the publicum, very cool!!No, NPR is using the same performance that was heard at the inauguration, with the same background buzz and increased mic noise during the opening bars. It's just a little cleaner, and they fade out before the applause begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I could see this making it to a Naxos CD sometime in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I am very pleased with any new Williams composition, certainly when performed before an 1.2 million people audience But in this case I would have preferred a full blown orchestral fanfare.Btw, I heard Olympic Spirit during Obama's tour from the White House to the Capitol, and in the parade I heard both Olympic Spirit and Summon the Heroes.Did anyone check the "The Moment" 3D compilation photo on CNN for the presence of mr. Williams in the VIP section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone2beach 0 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I loved that piece...Does anyone know if/when the sheet music will become available?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Wow amazing that the chamber ensemble arrangement is more interesting than the orchestral version. It just shows that music isn't just some thick string sound. you don't need 100 musicians to get carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Wow amazing that the chamber ensemble arrangement is more interesting than the orchestral version. It just shows that music isn't just some thick string sound. you don't need 100 musicians to get carried away.But you need one brilliant composer/arranger. Then it all does wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I've listened to this piece more and more, and every time it gets better. It is a great piece of music.How can this be? What nonsense is this, that it gets better and better? Isn't its goodness fixed as a matter of fact, and measurably only in the year 2309? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hey did you notice that when the Clarinet starts the shaker hymn and the piano steps in, the Violin plays John Williams own theme from the first part simulatenously to the hymn? listen carefully, the falling 4 note motive from the beginning, and jst 10 secs later again!Very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hey did you notice that when the Clarinet starts the shaker hymn and the piano steps in, the Violin plays John Williams own theme from the first part simulatenously to the hymn? listen carefully, the falling 4 note motive from the beginning, and jst 10 secs later again!Very nice Yup, it's all integrated quite nicely. (A lot of smiley face emoticons recently.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 true! I just read the Variety article. they did a recording on sunday which williams supervised??hell, release it now!You know I really like the Williams of recent times.Duo ConcertanteTimeless CallSimple GiftsWarner at War (?)Harp ConcertoViola ConcertoIf this is they way, you enjoy your Hollywood retirement, then I am really pleased! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I think it's rather uninteresting and "meh." John Williams writing small 5 minute pieces of music fail to please to me.I'm sure John would be devastated to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Obama's Inauguration from space:http://mytechnologyworld9.blogspot.com/200...owd-looked.htmlNOW who can find John Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Here's another fun one for us Constitution/politcal geeks: Obama retook the Oath of Office last night after the flub of the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Cool, they used the back-up recording! Without any noise from the publicum, very cool!!No, NPR is using the same performance that was heard at the inauguration, with the same background buzz and increased mic noise during the opening bars. It's just a little cleaner, and they fade out before the applause begins.What would be the best recording? MSNBC, NPR, or that m4a file? I'm assuming that for the TV channels the source is the same; I'm guessing MSNBC is the least compressed then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Here's another fun one for us Constitution/politcal geeks: Obama retook the Oath of Office last night after the flub of the original....which was (mainly) the fault of the Chief Justice, I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I never said it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Here's another fun one for us Constitution/politcal geeks: Obama retook the Oath of Office last night after the flub of the original....which was (mainly) the fault of the Chief Justice, I might add.did he do it on purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'm sure he didn't, it was a big event and everyone was nervous. It was his first swearing in as Chief Justice, and it wasn't exactly a low profile inaguration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaismine 64 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Here's another fun one for us Constitution/politcal geeks: Obama retook the Oath of Office last night after the flub of the original....which was (mainly) the fault of the Chief Justice, I might add.did he do it on purpose?No, Roberts got thrown off by Obama starting to talk before Roberts finished the first line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The air almost made me cry as soon as it came on. Very heartfelt theme. Very meaningful. And then simple gifts started precisely at 12:00 when Obama became president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The air almost made me cry as soon as it came on. Very heartfelt theme. Very meaningful. And then simple gifts started precisely at 12:00 when Obama became president.Yay! Somebody thinks this piece is as awesome as I do. I'm sure there are others, but no one is really talking about it the way you did. I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Here's another fun one for us Constitution/politcal geeks: Obama retook the Oath of Office last night after the flub of the original....which was (mainly) the fault of the Chief Justice, I might add.did he do it on purpose?No, Roberts got thrown off by Obama starting to talk before Roberts finished the first line. It was their first date, and they were nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro 147 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I don't know why this bit of news makes me feel betrayed...but it kind of does.The performance was pre-recorded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 So they were...what's the instrument equivalent of lip-synching? Outrage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Just like at the 2002 Olympics....Williams is a fake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Yes you did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I never posted that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 That's...difficult. I mean, I can definitely appreciate where they're coming from...the focus should be on delivering a flawless performance for the public in this case, no matter what it takes, and when the weather's like that, there's no way that's possible if you're performing live...and it also makes sense that they wouldn't announce it right before, because that'd just feel cheap...but there's still something disheartening about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro 147 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 What it does mean, among other things, is that there is a high quality recording of these four players performing Air & Simple Gifts that is far superior to the ripped one we've all been listening to.If you're going to go cheap on us, Yo Yo, at least give us your tape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 What it does mean, among other things, is that there is a high quality recording of these four players performing Air & Simple Gifts that is far superior to the ripped one we've all been listening to.Yeah, the Variety article intimated as much. What none of us knew up this point was that what we heard on Inauguration Day and what had been previously recorded were one and the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro 147 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 This is one of the greatest ponzi schemes to have been perpetrated in the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 As President of JWFan I demand that other President get people looking into this scandal immediately! We must have answers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Bastards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...UkE9lAD95SKQQ80The temperature hovered around 30 for the ceremony on the Capitol steps, too cold for McGill's clarinet, Ma's cello or Perlman's violin to offer true pitch. But the cold played havoc with the piano, which can't hold tune below 55 degrees for more than two hours, Florman said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 It looks like we can now oficially consider Air and Simple Gift a ... score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Cool, they used the back-up recording! Without any noise from the publicum, very cool!!No, NPR is using the same performance that was heard at the inauguration, with the same background buzz and increased mic noise during the opening bars. It's just a little cleaner, and they fade out before the applause begins.So I was right then, it was the back-up recording. But it's very clear when you hear it that it isn't a live recording, for me it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 It seems to be much fuss about it being a recording.Is this that rare?I think they still played, but the microphones were mute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Looks like CNN will be releasing a DVD-R of the Inauguration via Amazon:http://tinyurl.com/BarackObamaInaugurationDVDLooks like this may be the best way to get a recording of the piece in the short term. From the Amazon description (bold text added for emphasis):"On January 20, 2009, the world watched as Barack Obama became the 44th president of the United States. History was made when the first African-American ever-elected president put his hand on Abraham Lincoln’s Bible and took the oath of office.Watch how it all happened in real time. CNN and The Best Political Team on Television take you moment by moment as a new administration takes the seat of power. See the parade of former Presidents and dignitaries as they are seated on the Presidential Podium, witness the swearing-in of President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden. Watch the final departure of Former President George W. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush from the White House.The ceremony features Aretha Franklin singing My Country ‘Tis of Thee and an original work by composer John Williams Air and Simple Gifts performed by Yo Yo Ma, Gabriela Montero, Anthony McGill and Itzhak Perlman. Opening with an invocation by Rev. Rick Warren and including a poetry reading by Elizabeth Alexander, the state ceremony concludes with a benediction by the Rev. Dr. Joseph E. Lowery.This product is manufactured on demand using DVD-R recordable media. Amazon.com's standard return policy will apply." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Looks like CNN will be releasing a DVD-R of the Inauguration via Amazon:http://tinyurl.com/BarackObamaInaugurationDVDLooks like this may be the best way to get a recording of the piece in the short term. From the Amazon description (bold text added for emphasis):"On January 20, 2009, the world watched as Barack Obama became the 44th president of the United States. History was made when the first African-American ever-elected president put his hand on Abraham Lincoln’s Bible and took the oath of office.Watch how it all happened in real time. CNN and The Best Political Team on Television take you moment by moment as a new administration takes the seat of power. See the parade of former Presidents and dignitaries as they are seated on the Presidential Podium, witness the swearing-in of President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden. Watch the final departure of Former President George W. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush from the White House.The ceremony features Aretha Franklin singing My Country ‘Tis of Thee and an original work by composer John Williams Air and Simple Gifts performed by Yo Yo Ma, Gabriela Montero, Anthony McGill and Itzhak Perlman. Opening with an invocation by Rev. Rick Warren and including a poetry reading by Elizabeth Alexander, the state ceremony concludes with a benediction by the Rev. Dr. Joseph E. Lowery.This product is manufactured on demand using DVD-R recordable media. Amazon.com's standard return policy will apply."NBCstore.com is selling a regular pressed DVD of the ceremony and the parades and festivities for $20, it's on preorder to ship March 10th. I have a copy on order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 201 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I loved that piece...Does anyone know if/when the sheet music will become available??According to Hal Leonard website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I loved that piece...Does anyone know if/when the sheet music will become available??According to Hal Leonard website...Glad to see it's actually coming! But it's a long way off..Edit: This is odd - the release date lists it for August, but the description lists it for Jan. 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 What is that in your signature, joey225? Is that yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 It's actually Miklos Rozsa's signature - a little preview of some stuff I'll be able to contribute to the board very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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