Beowulf 4 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Seriously annoying.Are you one of these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 It's like a live audience clapping when a quirky character enters the set on a show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 It's really annoying. Especially when it clearly states in the programme notes what the next theme will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 It's like a live audience clapping when a quirky character enters the set on a show.Reminds me of audiences that went to see Frank Sinatra in-concert in his twilight years. Every time an old favorite came up, the crowd would hoot and holler. I wonder what the maestro makes of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I severely hate it. Watching videos where the music is drowned out by shouting is a real pain. And does anyone ever know why people feel so inclined to laugh when he conducts "Jaws"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 I severely hate it. Watching videos where the music is drowned out by shouting is a real pain. And does anyone ever know why people feel so inclined to laugh when he conducts "Jaws"?People are strange beasts mate - I guess there is no where else better to observe this than at large gatherings like concerts. But you would think the type of people going to these concerts would know better.It also irks me when audiences start clapping before the piece is actually finished. I've noticed this happens a lot with the E.T. Finale especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 It's a different crowd than you would find at a classical performance, unfortunately. The manners just are not there. I think it may be because this music is considered to be of a lighter nature and may not "require" the same etiquette as say a Mahler symphony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 You're complaining about thisreally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 You're complaining about thisreally?Meh - I'm in one of those moods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I think it's great. They're there presumably because they want to hear some of the more famous themes, so why shouldn't they applaud? The same thing happens in rock concerts and pop-star concerts. Yeah, he's not a pop or rock star, but he's the closest thing to it that a contemporary orchestral composer can be, and his music is just as recognisable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 It really doesn't bother me at a live event. I get buzzed that other people are getting excited by the whole thing. I only get annoyed when they clap for so long they drown out a quiet section of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 These are Williams' bread and butter and I think he realizes that. These are the same people who love the Star Wars music because they are a huge SW geeks. When was the last time John Williams performed Presumed Innocent or Witches of Eastwick. He knows what the "masses" want to hear. They want the Indy and Harry Potter because they are huge fans of the movies, not necessarily music fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Are you one of these people?No. I also wasn't one of those an annoyed Jerry Goldsmith had to silence when they clapped before the Blue Max epilogue.I did clap during the STTMP suite, after The Enterprise. But I think that was a given.These are Williams' bread and butter and I think he realizes that. These are the same people who love the Star Wars music because they are a huge SW geeks.Bottlecap collectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I hate when people clap during a performance of Williams music. How dare they be enthusiastic? The only proper way to appreciate music is to sit completely still with your eyes shut tight. If you cheer when you hear your favorite theme it means that you have no respect for the composer or the music. Now excuse me while I adjust my monocle and wrinkle my nose at the thought of the common folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 If you don't want others to disrupt the musical experience, then don't go to the concert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I hate when people clap during a performance of Williams music. How dare they be enthusiastic? The only proper way to appreciate music is to sit completely still with your eyes shut tight. If you cheer when you hear your favorite theme it means that you have no respect for the composer or the music. Now excuse me while I adjust my monocle and wrinkle my nose at the thought of the common folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I hate when people clap during a performance of Williams music. How dare they be enthusiastic? The only proper way to appreciate music is to sit completely still with your eyes shut tight. If you cheer when you hear your favorite theme it means that you have no respect for the composer or the music. Now excuse me while I adjust my monocle and wrinkle my nose at the thought of the common folk.It's not a rock concert. Sit down shut up and listen.HPFAN_2 - Now adjusting his monocle and walking out with a totally unnecessary silver headed cane and cloak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I have no problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Is there like a standard etiquette for film score concerts? Kinda like you can't go to the opera in a shirt and jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Not that I've noticed. The Austin Wind Symphony is definately come as you are. For the Houston Symphony Mark and I tucked in our shirts and put on some nice shoes, but there were people there who were very extravagantly dressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 There is no problem with actually clapping at a concert, but is it really too hard to wait until after the piece is performed? Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 If the clapping was for a melody I didn't like it might be annoying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Is there like a standard etiquette for film score concerts? Kinda like you can't go to the opera in a shirt and jeans.Depends on the situation or event. If it's a major symphony I at least wear slacks and a dress shirt. The only time I wore a suit was to a ballet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I hate when people clap during a performance of Williams music. How dare they be enthusiastic? The only proper way to appreciate music is to sit completely still with your eyes shut tight. If you cheer when you hear your favorite theme it means that you have no respect for the composer or the music. Now excuse me while I adjust my monocle and wrinkle my nose at the thought of the common folk. You're a complete ass, Henry.Oh yeah, and a complete idiot, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Gosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Oh, and don't get me started on how terrific my sense of humor is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 <====== Look at my face...http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=umtqSPxhOZQ&...ated&fmt=18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Gosh!That's right. A complete ass. Not one of those half-assed ones. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 <====== Look at my face...http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=umtqSPxhOZQ&...ated&fmt=18That is stupid. He had to stop mid-conducting because of their clapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I think someone even said "Is that Jurassic Park?"...Now that hurted my feelings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 <====== Look at my face...http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=umtqSPxhOZQ&...ated&fmt=18Not half as bad as this one:http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd1_kVz4S7UDoes any of them care about the music at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Now I whipped... thank God they were in a galaxy far far away from the stage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Concert etiquette in and of itself sucks. I remember attending a Chicago Symphony concert about 10 years ago - Barenboim was conducting Tchaikovsky 6 and between each movement people would cough and sneeze and do every other bodily function would could possibly think of. After the 2nd movement, Barenboim actually turned around and told the audience basically to knock it off in no uncertain terms. I was like, "Good for you!"Unfortunately, it didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Gosh!That's right. A complete ass. Not one of those half-assed ones. Goodness gracious. You've wounded my honor, Alan. I can't let this go, just like I couldn't let the last one go... er... will it be pistols again?On another note,http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=umtqSPxhOZQ&...ated&fmt=18I like this performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 <====== Look at my face...http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=umtqSPxhOZQ&...ated&fmt=18Not half as bad as this one:http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd1_kVz4S7UDoes any of them care about the music at all?Sheesh, I know someone posting at a website devoted to JW shouldn't really be talking, but:NERDS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 There is nothing wrong with posting on a website dedicated to John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Not half as bad as this one:http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd1_kVz4S7UDoes any of them care about the music at all?Well, why else would they go to a concert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 When I went to the Hollywood Bowl, JW played "Battle of the Heroes," and these two guys started fighting with lightsabers in the aisle. I don't mind the clapping, but that was a bit distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 A bit distracting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 What the f*ck is it with orchestral concerts having to be relegated to "must be stiff and quiet" status? And this "shush-up to be respectful" crap. The realm of concert music has historically been about loud clapping, cheering, and having a great time. Contrary to what movies tell you, people did not sit around like they would suffer massive hemorrhoid pain if they so much as took in too much air. It wasn't until the 1890s+ that concert-goers and composers became puritans/Victorian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest macrea Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Try a foot in the aisle.With Williams I don't mind it when they clap right away, as with Star Wars and Superman, but it's very annoying with "Flying" from E.T. because the rubes don't recognize the intro and when the melody starts you can't hear it. This kind of thing generally happens for encores only, thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 What the f*ck is it with orchestral concerts having to be relegated to "must be stiff and quiet" status? And this "shush-up to be respectful" crap. The realm of concert music has historically been about loud clapping, cheering, and having a great time. Contrary to what movies tell you, people did not sit around like they would suffer massive hemorrhoid pain if they so much as took in too much air. It wasn't until the 1890s+ that concert-goers and composers became puritans/Victorian.There is a bit of unnecessary "etiquette" in orchestral concerts. But then you also have to account for the need to actually hear the piece being performed. It would totally ruin a first performance of something if people decided to cheer because that crescendo was just splendid or if they found the tuba player's performance the most thrilling of this old and well known piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 What the f*ck is it with orchestral concerts having to be relegated to "must be stiff and quiet" status? And this "shush-up to be respectful" crap. The realm of concert music has historically been about loud clapping, cheering, and having a great time. Contrary to what movies tell you, people did not sit around like they would suffer massive hemorrhoid pain if they so much as took in too much air. It wasn't until the 1890s+ that concert-goers and composers became puritans/Victorian.Well I agree with you about clapping and all...but how exactly do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 It's called history books and history classes.Try them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 That's one way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 If you cheer when you hear your favorite theme it means that you have no respect for the composer or the music.That is correct. Or at least no respect for the other people who also want to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 That's one way to do it.The other way:--Personally, I've always favored the sort of John Williams concert envisioned by M.E. Russell in his "John and Yoko" comic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Maybe the people who clap when they hear their favorite bit of music are paid by the group and the concert hall to devalue any illegal bootleg recordings that are being made of that concert, by having such "noise" present...I'm sure those people are just feeling overly enthusiastic towards their music. Just like the people who sing and clap overly loud at rock concerts, although they forget that film music at a concert hall is much quieter and more formal than a rock concert, so many more people will hear such interactions and take offense to them.What irks me is when the conductor announces that they're going to play a suite of a certain number of movements, and then people clap between each movement, not recognizing that it's not over until that baton comes down and the conductor turns around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I have yet to attend a concert where the audience became disruptive by applauding. Yes there have been times where they have clapped at the beginning but that's just a sign of recognition and appreciation for the cue being played.And I've seen them clap at the end of a cue even though there was more music in the suite, I think that just a natural urge to clap when the music stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Nah...when the music's over, turn out the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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