Ollie 1,053 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090106/ap_..._apple_macworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Great news! If the world is destined to be dominated by Apple, I'm a happy man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 331 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I'm sure Marian will be "thrilled" about this. Maybe now he can finally stop being afraid of Apple and get an iPod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yay! Now could we please start upping the sound quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,617 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 If I can buy 320k mp3s for a reasonable price, I will become a customer.192k will tempt me with some of the itunes exclusive material. But I refuse to pay for locked formats that are player restricted, and which editors won't open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yea! This is a good step in the right direction, but honestly even 69 cents is still way too much to pay for a 128kbps AAC file. 2 cents would be too much for that.Start selling apple lossless for 69 cents and they could have my business... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,617 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yep, I agree with that.Thing is, I consider 99p a good price for one track (192k mp3 minimum that is), given how many times I will listen to it. However, I think that the price per track should then come down very quickly as, say, you buy more from the same artist, to the point where an album should be maybe £4-5, but certainly less than you would expect to pay for a CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 331 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Start selling apple lossless for 69 cents and they could have my business...They'd probably have a lot more business if they did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 For sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,085 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I'm sure Marian will be "thrilled" about this. Maybe now he can finally stop being afraid of Apple and get an iPod.Why, do they now come with OGG/FLAC support, an open API and without those annoying wheels? It's a step in the right direction though. Perhaps in a couple of decades, we may watch movies at home without DRM, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentinice 20 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 If I'm not mistaken, the DRM free tracks are encoded as 256k AAC files, which are just about the same quality as 320k MP3s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,617 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Some article picked up a quote that annoyed me, something along the lines of "the more locks, the cheaper the music" - the locks shouldn't be there to begin with. If you bought a CD (for the same amount probably) you'd have 100% freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Only use for iTunes is the exclusive digital downloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,019 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 It's indeed a step in the right direction. Better than letting things stay as they have been, but I'd still appreciate a few more rather large steps in the same direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 How do you discern the DRM files from the higher bitrate & DRM-free files anyway? The info doesn't give away the bitrate. Only by that small '+' sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,053 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Only use for iTunes is the exclusive digital downloads.Yeah I've only bought stuff from iTunes that isn't available to buy on CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 If the world is destined to be dominated by Apple, I'm a happy man.Sorry, but that's Google's destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Definitley a step in the right direction. Now if we can just get them to get the complete Batman Returns album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Random? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,053 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 I prefer the labels issue expanded scores on CD. I don't really like the idea of download only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentinice 20 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 How do you discern the DRM files from the higher bitrate & DRM-free files anyway? The info doesn't give away the bitrate. Only by that small '+' sign?The little "+" indicates the DRM-free 256k files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yay! The Casino Royale complete score is now on iTunes Plus, as is the Williams/Yo-Yo Ma Memoirs of a Geisha album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I prefer the labels issue expanded scores on CD. I don't really like the idea of download only.If they were released as lossless files I'd be thrilled. What do I do with CDs now? I buy them and then put them on the computer and never play the CD again. It's such a waste. I don't need a physical disc. I find myself much more interested in the booklets now though.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,053 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 I guess I'm still old school. I prefer to listen to the actual CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 331 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I prefer the labels issue expanded scores on CD. I don't really like the idea of download only.I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 My computer is digitally hooked up to my stereo. There's no loss in quality and I can play any album at anytime. My iPod can control iTunes. It's so nice.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 607 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 DVD-A and SACD... since they didn't catch, so CD is the only way to get high quality uncompressed music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,053 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 My computer is digitally hooked up to my stereo. There's no loss in quality and I can play any album at anytime. My iPod can control iTunes. It's so nice.NeilHow did you hook it up, by that I mean what type of connection did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yay! The Casino Royale complete score is now on iTunes Plus, as is the Williams/Yo-Yo Ma Memoirs of a Geisha album.Do you guys know that to remove the locks on files all you have to do is burn it to a CDR and then reimport it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I prefer the labels issue expanded scores on CD. I don't really like the idea of download only.If they were released as lossless files I'd be thrilled. What do I do with CDs now? I buy them and then put them on the computer and never play the CD again. It's such a waste. I don't need a physical disc. I find myself much more interested in the booklets now though.Some smaller online music stores offer digital booklet downloads. iTunes could (and should) do this. Album information is a major weakness at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I prefer the labels issue expanded scores on CD. I don't really like the idea of download only.If they were released as lossless files I'd be thrilled. What do I do with CDs now? I buy them and then put them on the computer and never play the CD again. It's such a waste. I don't need a physical disc. I find myself much more interested in the booklets now though.Some smaller online music stores offer digital booklet downloads. iTunes could (and should) do this. Album information is a major weakness at the moment.iTunes has digital booklets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yay! The Casino Royale complete score is now on iTunes Plus, as is the Williams/Yo-Yo Ma Memoirs of a Geisha album.Do you guys know that to remove the locks on files all you have to do is burn it to a CDR and then reimport it?iTunes Plus doubles the bit rate of the AAC files. It's kind of a rip off that you have to pay to upgrade, but at the moment they're slashing the usual price, so I got 44 upgraded songs for about six dollars. Not too bad.I prefer the labels issue expanded scores on CD. I don't really like the idea of download only.If they were released as lossless files I'd be thrilled. What do I do with CDs now? I buy them and then put them on the computer and never play the CD again. It's such a waste. I don't need a physical disc. I find myself much more interested in the booklets now though.Some smaller online music stores offer digital booklet downloads. iTunes could (and should) do this. Album information is a major weakness at the moment.iTunes has digital booklets.Really? I've never seen one. Sounds like they need to put more up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I just checked the companies website and they don't make it anymore. It's a device that hooks up to my USB port on my computer and then outputs digitally via a fiber optic or coaxial connector. It came with 30 foot runs of both wires, so I just run a coaxial line to my stereo. I'm happy with the results.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 607 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Not something an average listener would do, and they are in greater numbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I've discovered something over the years: I am not average.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,617 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yay! The Casino Royale complete score is now on iTunes Plus, as is the Williams/Yo-Yo Ma Memoirs of a Geisha album.Do you guys know that to remove the locks on files all you have to do is burn it to a CDR and then reimport it?And lose further sound quality in the process.Re. Mark O preferring CDs - I will restate a point I've made many times before. Scores must be cheaper and therefore more viable to release digitally than have to press a CD. Would you prefer an hour long CD, or a complete score on itunes? Pretend there's no third choice (or lossless for the second choice at best). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 331 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yay! The Casino Royale complete score is now on iTunes Plus, as is the Williams/Yo-Yo Ma Memoirs of a Geisha album.Do you guys know that to remove the locks on files all you have to do is burn it to a CDR and then reimport it?Ya but if you do that you loose quality when ripping it back to your hard drive. Like Neil I would have preferred it if they released them as lossless.Edit: Rich beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 There was a program I found and don't remember the name of that would copy your iTunes library straight into a non-protected format. However, you did need to be properly logged into your iTunes account, and it recorded the files in realtime, or at best double-time, so it is not at all a way to pirate an iTunes collection. It's just a timesaver to circumvent the burn/rip process.Perhaps this is just a sign of the times that iTunes is evolving as technology, internet bandwidth, and consumer demand have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Ya but if you do that you loose quality when ripping it back to your hard drive.Oh ho. I didn't know it lost quality. I never noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,617 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Well if you rip a wav that came from an mp3 (which is already compressed - converting to wav doesn't regain anything), you're compressing it a second time, therefore losing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 607 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I've discovered something over the years: I am not average.NeilYou got it wrong, dude... but my fingers are now too lazy to type the explanation... so maybe later. Stay tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,085 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I assume you lose metadata, too.It's a device that hooks up to my USB port on my computer and then outputs digitally via a fiber optic or coaxial connector. It came with 30 foot runs of both wires, so I just run a coaxial line to my stereo. I'm happy with the results.I've hooked up my soundblaster's SPDIF output to my living room amp's digital in and the two normal analogue outputs to the old stereo in my work room and the box for the wireless speakers I have in my kitchen. I still prefer CDs myself, but the more I think about it, the more I don't like it. I never play the CDs, they take up space (it's nice to look at the shelf, but I'm running out of shelf space, too), and more importantly, they're an ultimately needless burden on the environment.Also, I'm fairly positive that with the popularity of iTunes, portable music players and gaming consoles as media centres, it's only a matter of time until many people have *some* kind of PC hooked up to their stereos for playing their music. It might not be a regular PC and designed so as to not be recogniseable as one by the general public (in which case it'd probably run Linux, like most of these devices), but essentially it'll be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Not to sound like a noob, but where could I go to learn more about this SPDIF technology and its benefits? I just received the guts to the new gaming rig I'm going to build, and the motherboard has an onboard SPDIF connector, and the video card does as well. The stereo on my dresser, however, is a ten year old POS, but it's pretty far down on the list of things to replace next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 607 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDIF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Huh. Stefan would have just pasted it for me directly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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