Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 This would really interest me. (Almost) 5 years after PoA came out... although I suspect PoA will still win.Personally I think SS is an AMAZING score. Vitage JW, if you will. It has everything. Many great themes, many great little subtle moments, many outstanding action cues. Yet, some complained that it's not too original. I don't agree. The orchestration may be standard JW, but the themes are brilliant. Really one of the very best.What's your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Wowwwwwwww tough poll. I might have to abstain from voting until I listen to the expanded versions of each again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I like a few cues from the HP1, but HP3 is the richer, superior score of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Wowwwwwwww tough poll. I might have to abstain from voting until I listen to the expanded versions of each againJust watch the movies!!I tell you SS is underrated around here... there are SOOO many great moments unreleased on the OS album!I like a few cues from the HP1, but HP3 is the richer, superior score of the two.Yeah, PoA is more elegant, I agree with that (if you mean that by richer). However, as far as themes are concerned, I think they are equally good. I mean, all of Harry's themes are introduced in SS, as well as the 3 Voldemort's themes. And don't forget Hogwart's theme, the Quidditch fanfare, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I don't think I'll be able to vote on this, but if I do, it'll be for SS. Very solid thematic and non-thematic writing...and there's something about the sound quality and orchestration that I really love. I didn't have any knowledge of Hook and the like before hearing it, so most of it sounded quite original to me - and it still sounds better than its predecessors, if you ask me, even though it didn't come first. However, it does face steep competition from the more unusual third score, which is why I'm not sure I'll vote in this thread. They're just so different and wonderful in their own ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 I always thought this was the best JW OS cover.I still do, although Memoirs of a Geisha is a (very) close second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 No chance! None of 'em! **IMO, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 No chance! none of 'em!What's your favorite cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Prisoner of Azkaban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 I'm not saying PoA is not great, but I'm still wondering: What makes this SO much better than SS???Buckbeak's Theme? Mischief Managed? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 No chance! none of 'em!What's your favorite cover?Either:OrOrOr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I'm not saying PoA is not great, but I'm still wondering: What makes this SO much better than SS???SS has better main themes, they are classic. But POA is a better overall score and I think the medieval sound is perfect for the film. I wish all the films had been scored this way from the beginning. When I listen to SS, I listen to a handful of tracks. Some of the tracks on SS are snoozers or just plain redundant. When I listen to POA I listen to the whole damn thing. That's why I voted Azkaban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 No chance! none of 'em!What's your favorite cover?Either:OrOrOrWell, the scores themselves are among the very best, but I think there are better cover art works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I tell you SS is underrated around here... there are SOOO many great moments unreleased on the OS album!I don't under rate it at all. That's why this poll is hard. I LOVE both scores VERY much. Sorceror's Stone is amazing, and gets better over the years too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Well, the scores themselves are among the very best, but I think there are better cover art works. Blame it on my age, but I tend to favour artwork created prior to the dawn of Photoshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I voted for Prisoner without any hesitation. From all three JW's Potter scores, I own only 2nd and 3rd. I found HP&PS disappointing, mainly because of its lack of expected... balls. The music sounds like magic, but I feel none. It resembles Hook, but doesn't have it's charm, nor similar emotional resonance. Just like in case of KotCS, it's very solid work with good themes (Hedwig's Theme alone is stellar), but leaves me cold when compared to many previous JW's works of that kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 I'm not saying PoA is not great, but I'm still wondering: What makes this SO much better than SS???SS has better main themes, they are classic. But POA is a better overall score and I think the medieval sound is perfect for the film. I wish all the films had been scored this way from the beginning. When I listen to SS, I listen to a handful of tracks. Some of the tracks on SS are snoozers or just plain redundant. When I listen to POA I listen to the whole damn thing. That's why I voted Azkaban.Really? I rarely listen to the whole PoA. For example, I find some tracks like Apparition on the Train, The Portrait Gallery, The Patronus Light, and The Dementors Converge as forgettable as the most forgettable tracks on the SS album....But POA is a better overall score and I think the medieval sound is perfect for the film.Many people seem to forget, SS has Diagon Alley, which has a very medieval sound, too (although only part of it was used, I know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I rather like this one:Simple, yet effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Close Encounters is another great one, the original OST cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I always thought this was the best JW OS cover.I still do, although Memoirs of a Geisha is a (very) close second.It's the other way around for me, but I suppose I've made that clear in the other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I voted for POA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Azkaban for me. It's interesting to compare the two scores because although they are in the same franchise and are fairly new, they kind of evoke different styles from Williams. I think Sorcerer's Stone reflects the golden age of the 1980's while POA is in many ways a score in JW's modern style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Azkaban for me. I think Sorcerer's Stone reflects the golden age of the 1980's while POA is in many ways a modern JW score.Yeah, I agree. But the funny thing is, although many people usually prefer the golden age Williams, in this case, it's the modern score they prefer...HUH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Thematically speaking, Philosophers Stone reminds one of the 80's. but in many other ways it's a modern JW score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Thematically speaking, Philosophers Stone reminds one of the 80's. but in many other ways it's a modern JW score.True, but out of all of what we call Williams' modern period I think SS is the most like the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Thematically speaking, Philosophers Stone reminds one of the 80's. but in many other ways it's a modern JW score.True, but out of all of what we call Williams' modern period I think SS is the most like the 80's.Hmmm, actually I think it's more like 90's.The orchestration reminds me more of Hook and Jurassic Park... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 HPSSWith the Indy Box and a lot of SW Prequel music released in games, this score has become THE Holy Grail for an Expanded /Complete release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 HPSSWith the Indy Box and a lot of SW Prequel music released in games, this score has become THE Holy Grail for an Expanded /Complete releaseYes, that and PoA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I agree, red rabbit. Although TPM is favorably similar to his older work in some ways, too, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I agree, red rabbit. Although TPM is favorably similar to his older work in some ways, too, I think.In some ways yes it definitely is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 With the Indy Box and a lot of SW Prequel music released in games, this score has become THE Holy Grail for an Expanded /Complete releaseNah, that's still Hook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 HPSS, the score most needing a complete release with all the concert arrangments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 With the Indy Box and a lot of SW Prequel music released in games, this score has become THE Holy Grail for an Expanded /Complete releaseNah, that's still HookYes.I went with Sorcerer's Stone. There are more moments in that one I love such as Luke's theme when Harry sees the train (unreleased), the complete Owl letter delivery scene (unreleased), Hagrid's tale of Voldemort (unreleased), the entry into the Great Hall/Diagon Alley (unreleased), the sorting hat scene (unreleased), entire Christmastime scene (unreleased), Voldemort in the woods (unreleased) and winning the House Cup (unreleased).My list of desired cues from POA is slightly smaller, and consists of: Harry uses Patronus charm the first time and Harry with the map (Peter Pettigrew's Theme). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 First one, easily.I never really got wowed by PoA. It's a really good effort with some nice themes, but somehow it never quite comes together into a perfect whole for me. Plus there are a lot of sequences where little happens (Saving Buckbeak being one of them), whereas the first score rarely seems to let up.And IMO, nothing can approach the complexity and sheer energy of The Quidditch Match - one of my favourite Potter cues (which JW evidently considered having more 'musical logic' than Desert/Jungle Chase - twat). For once, I agree with Joey - it needs an expanded edition. The first score is one of the three scores that got me into soundtracks, and therefore has intangible nostalgic value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Why is the second score always excluded? Is it because of Williams Ross' involvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 It is only half a new score. And, a few good parts aside, it's not in the same league as the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Would it still be worth purchasing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Would it still be worth purchasing?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The Chamber of Secrets alone makes it worth purchasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I am off to listen to some "samples". Excuse me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 There are various scenes in the film that utilize the Chamber theme, naturally excluded from the album. That secondary Voldemort theme/Philosopher's Stone theme/dark magical object motif is also presented awesomely throughout the film (such as when McGonagall tells the students the Chamber is home to a monster and when the entrance to the Chamber is opened). I'd buy all three scores in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The unreleased cues with the Chamber theme are among the best in all of Potter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Wow. Great stuff. 2:30 is where it really starts going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 "Fawkes the Phoenix" is also one of the many highlights of JW's entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Now I need to check that Track out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Easy! Sorcerer's Stone For one simple reason: Hedwig's Theme. No theme yet in Harry Potter has stood up to that. It was clear from first listen that Williams was more inspired by the book than the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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