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Concert or movie arrangement?  

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  1. 1. To be arranged, or to not be arranged...

    • Yes, I tend to prefer concert arrangements
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    • No, I tend to like it as I hear it in the film
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I think need to vote "other".

I love scored music... the way its used as a storytelling device. But then again, some of my favourite tracks are concert arrangements (Leia's Theme, Luke and Leia, Yoda's Theme, Love Theme From Superman). I'm not sure if Ilia's Theme would count, as it was used in the overture.

It also depends how much of the score is available. Concert arrangements may be beneficial if we're talking a portion of the score, where scored tracks might feel disjointed without some of their brethren, especially if they're heavily thematic (just look at JW's albums). But a lot of the time you can't beat a full score, and chances are some of those arrangements might make their way in there some way anyway, even if it's just in the end credit suite.

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I think we have to differentiate the difference between "concert arrangement" and "album arrangement".

That's true. I usually tend to lump them in one and the same, probably because I've heard very few film score concerts.

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Definitely. This poll is about concert arrangements Vs film arrangements only. The Asteroid Field being the most obvious example. If anyone wants to make the simple LESS simple, that's up to them.

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i like to have my complete score plus concert suites :sigh:

As isolated works, excepting two or three examples, the concert versions are much better. But they really end, while if a cue is from the middle of the score it does not really end.

Example: The Asteroid field. the film version has a begging with the imperialmarch that is very cool, and the concert version has a repetition of the motif that does not work as well as intertiwing Han solo and the princes and other themes. but the concert version ends, while the film version continues with luke on dagobah that does not have anything to do with it... it has not a satisfying ending.

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Concert versions are nice, but I would never favour one at the expense of including the film version.

One example being Fawkes - it has a marvellous concert treatment, but the two main film scenes where the theme appears were both included on the album, so everyone wins. It has to do with our bonding to exact orchestrations that we hear in the film, and not wanting to hear some alternate instead.

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It very much depends. Concert suites usually condense the score material to a shorter running time without the mess of an album copy & paste job. As such, I generally prefer a concert suite when I want to listen to "highlights" instead of just picking individual tracks. Concert versions are also interesting because they offer a different recording (and sometimes interpretation), sometimes worse, sometimes better (the Fury and Damien: Omen II album versions come to mind), often just different. In Williams' case, the concert suites also often flesh out the themes.

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The word TEND was chosen deliberately, as much as it is a shame I had to explain it, Taikomochi and Manuel.

I know this place is full of indecisives, but...

i voted for the concert version, i just wanted to explain my vision.

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I generally prefer original film versions. It's not that I inherently have something against concern/album versions, but in general, they just don't appeal to me as much. One notable exception is the Forest Battle concert suite from ROTJ - I much prefer that over the film version. But yeah, usually, I prefer the variety and less formally organized structure of the film versions.

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Are we talking about concert pieces that are an arrangement of a specific cue or thematic ones? For the former, in the film. For the latter, mostly in the film but with some exceptions (The Chamber of Secrets).

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I prefer to hear the full film version as originally recorded by the composer, because film versions can be edited, looped, tracked or all 3.

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I prefer to hear the full film version as originally recorded by the composer, because film versions can be edited, looped, tracked or all 3.

Whatever the composer wanted, that's what I want.

Even in situations like John Williams' edited "Desert Chase?"

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I prefer to hear the full film version as originally recorded by the composer, because film versions can be edited, looped, tracked or all 3.

Whatever the composer wanted, that's what I want.

Even in situations like John Williams' edited "Desert Chase?"

Yes. Well, not really. The only version of "Desert Chase" on my computer is the Concord edit, but what I meant is whatever the composer wanted for the film. It's not necessarily film version, since like Mark O. said, that can have edits and be messed around with.

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So, Williams farting into a mic is good with you? ;)

I voted film versions. There are times where there is greatness, but I generally prefer the film cue over the concert version ("The Asteroid Field," "Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra"...).

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I guess I'd pick the concert version of "Scherzo," but that's due to the better orchestra more than anything else. In terms of the music as written, I'd probably go for the original.

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I guess I'd pick the concert version of "Scherzo," but that's due to the better orchestra more than anything else. In terms of the music as written, I'd probably go for the original.

But it has the "boom-tzzz" at the end!

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So, Williams farting into a mic is good with you? ;)

Yes. If it comes from the maestro it must be lovely, and highly melodic.

I guess I'd pick the concert version of "Scherzo," but that's due to the better orchestra more than anything else. In terms of the music as written, I'd probably go for the original.

But it has the "boom-tzzz" at the end!

For a moment there, I thought you were going to say Williams' farts sound like "boom-tzzz"...

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So, Williams farting into a mic is good with you? ;)

Yes. If it comes from the maestro it must be lovely, and highly melodic.

I guess I'd pick the concert version of "Scherzo," but that's due to the better orchestra more than anything else. In terms of the music as written, I'd probably go for the original.

But it has the "boom-tzzz" at the end!

For a moment there, I thought you were going to say Williams' farts sound like "boom-tzzz"...

:angry: I did understood that too!

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