pixie_twinkle 37 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 3.5This is a lovely score, but hardly the masterpiece some claim it to be. I sometimes wonder what Williams fans would think of this score if Williams hadn't claimed it was one of his favourites. My guess is that it would be nearer to 3.5/5. Link to post Share on other sites
Incanus 5259 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 3.5This is a lovely score, but hardly the masterpiece some claim it to be. I sometimes wonder what Williams fans would think of this score if Williams hadn't claimed it was one of his favourites. My guess is that it would be nearer to 3.5/5.Why would Williams' personal affection for this score affect the opinion of the fans? I wasn't even aware that it was one of his favourite projects when I first heard this score and and I still loved it from the first note. Link to post Share on other sites
Ollie 716 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I never knew it was one of his favorites when I bought it. Of course that was before the internet really took off.Although I've never heard/seen it quoted directly from Williams. I know CE3K is a favorite of his. Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Penna 1313 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Me too, I didn't know that either. I just absolutely adore the main theme, and most of the underscore is good, even though it sounds like it was recorded during the dark ages Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 3.5This is a lovely score, but hardly the masterpiece some claim it to be. I sometimes wonder what Williams fans would think of this score if Williams hadn't claimed it was one of his favourites. My guess is that it would be nearer to 3.5/5.Nope, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites
pixie_twinkle 37 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Blows raspberry! :cool: Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Parker 2885 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 3.5This is a lovely score, but hardly the masterpiece some claim it to be. I sometimes wonder what Williams fans would think of this score if Williams hadn't claimed it was one of his favourites. My guess is that it would be nearer to 3.5/5.Ah, so I now found the precise reason why so many consider Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom to be a terrible film.... Link to post Share on other sites
Taikomochi 620 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 You know, you TRY to be subtle...Obviously, I don't. :cool:I really love the final performage of Carriage Ride to Thornfield. Such a great composition. Link to post Share on other sites
Red 72 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I had no idea this score was one of Williams' favorites actually... Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Breathmask 458 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 I had never even heard that.I do know he's mentioned Close Encounters as being probably his favorite film work. Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 3109 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 And that was also a favourite before I first read about his opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Penna 1313 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 There's proof I'm not affected by what JW likes the most... Link to post Share on other sites
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I had never even heard that.I do know he's mentioned Close Encounters as being probably his favorite film work.I don't know how it compares to Close Encounters in his mind (although I doubt such comparison even happens), but he was very very proud of it in the summer of 1977, when a reporter from Films and Filming asked him what his favorite own work was. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Breathmask 458 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Ah, so he mentioned it over 30 years ago.Before he wrote countless other scores that might just as well have been more to his liking. Link to post Share on other sites
John Crichton 4 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Unfortunately it's become one of his many stock answers for interviews. Link to post Share on other sites
MrScratch 205 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 He also might have a fondness for Jane Eyre because of what was going on his life at the time and not necessarily the music itself. If I remember correctly didn't Williams compose the score in England? It may have just been a wonderful experience and the music reminds of it. Close Encounters is an obvious favorite because of its unique requirements on the composer and the role of the music in the movie. Link to post Share on other sites
Marian Schedenig 3109 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Unfortunately it's become one of his many stock answers for interviews.He probably doesn't even remember what it sounds like. Link to post Share on other sites
Ollie 716 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I can just picture Williams sitting at a piano trying to recall Jane Eyre's theme by playing notes..... "Yes Jane Eyre what a lovely theme. I'll play it for you.... oops hold on that's Jaws....here we go....no....Princess Leia's theme....wait I got it...what the hell is this??? Oh it's Born on the 4th.......Jane Eyre, Jane Eyre...hmmm.....dah dah da dadah...." Jurassic Shark 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neimoidian 13 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I have listened to it twice so far, so I really cannot rate it yet. But the theme itself is magnificent. And some claim it's KotCS that represents JW's mature sound at its best...! Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Skywalker 710 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Damn, dont listen to this score when you are emotionally down.It's like turning a faucet on.... Link to post Share on other sites
Incanus 5259 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Yes it tends to do that although I feel this score is not inherently sad, perhaps more lyrical, nostalgic and yearningly romantic. But on the bright side I also find it rather cathartic when I am down and listen to it. Link to post Share on other sites
indy4 152 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I give it 4 stars. Maybe 4.5 Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Skywalker 710 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Yes it tends to do that although I feel this score is not inherently sad, perhaps more lyrical, nostalgic and yearningly romantic. But on the bright side I also find it rather cathartic when I am down and listen to it.that is why i was emotionally down... Link to post Share on other sites
SeekUYoda 0 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I give it 5 - what's not to love? Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 3767 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Yes, it's one of the clearest 6'es (we often use dice marks over here rather than 1-5) in the history of film scores. Link to post Share on other sites
Incanus 5259 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 It is truly one of the early classics from JW. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Marc 386 Posted August 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2019 Such fantastic horn parts in this cue ! (3:30) BrotherSound, T.RASK, crumbs and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 8399 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 How do we know the recording sessions are truly lost? Did they actually find the disintegrating tapes and discover they were beyond repair? Link to post Share on other sites
rough cut 865 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 It sent a postcard from the Caymans sayin’ “I’ll never come back... Goodbye forever! XX” Link to post Share on other sites
Yavar Moradi 580 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 8/27/2019 at 8:54 AM, crumbs said: How do we know the recording sessions are truly lost? Did they actually find the disintegrating tapes and discover they were beyond repair? All we know is that the LLL team (including Lukas Kendall, on this) searched high and low for tapes when they were pursuing their album, and sadly couldn't locate any. Yavar Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Parker 2885 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I haven't listened to a cue from this score in _years_, 'til that track above just now. Damn. Link to post Share on other sites
Incanus 5259 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 11 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: All we know is that the LLL team (including Lukas Kendall, on this) searched high and low for tapes when they were pursuing their album, and sadly couldn't locate any. Yavar Also it is extremely sad that no possible re-recording from original manuscripts is possible since the originals were declared a fire hazard by the insurance inspector along with many classic scores in the MGM music library in the 1970's and subsequently burned. Williams himself told in a Richard Dyer interview in 1990: Quote “Did you know that the whole great MGM music library is gone? Sometime in the ’70s, an insurance inspector came along and wondered what all that dangerous-looking yellow molding paper stuff was doing lying around, and it was destroyed — not only the orchestral scores like ‘Dr. Zhivago’ but also the great musicals. The only way they are preserved is on the sound tracks, and if you want to perform those arrangements, you have to listen to them and write them down. I had to do that myself when I wanted to pull out my music for ‘Jane Eyre’ for the Pops. It had been burned, so I just sat right here with the record and listened to it over and over and copied it by ear. Even last year when I wanted to do the fugue from ‘Jaws,’ I had to reconstruct it. So there’s a point to keeping all of this.” It is simply appalling that it was all done purposefully and not by accident. SteveMc and Holko 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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