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I actually came to understand this from the 1933 film which was on TV this weekend.  Carl Denham (Jack Black) realized this was a Beauty and the Beast parable where the beast was obsessed with the beauty resulting in his demise.  Kong's obsession with Ann Darrow resulted in his demise.  That is the opposite of Jackson's 2005 version where the Beauty was obsessed with the beast so the line made no sense.

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59 minutes ago, karelm said:

I actually came to understand this from the 1933 film which was on TV this weekend.  Carl Denham (Jack Black) realized this was a Beauty and the Beast parable where the beast was obsessed with the beauty resulting in his demise.  Kong's obsession with Ann Darrow resulted in his demise.  That is the opposite of Jackson's 2005 version where the Beauty was obsessed with the beast so the line made no sense.

PJ actually wanted to drag poor Fay Wray out to utter the last line.

Fanboy filmmaking at its worst!😵

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12 hours ago, JTWfan77 said:

This is for @Thor but anyone is welcome to chime in:

 

Should I buy Zimmer's The Power of One soundtrack? I can get it for next to nothing. Thanks.

It's not a ' score' per se.

The CD consists mostly of South Africa vocal performances with folks like Lebo M.

I absolutely love this music but if you don't, you may not want to buy this

 

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On 5/7/2020 at 2:34 AM, karelm said:

So why was Ann Darrow falling in love with kong?  They literally beat us with dreamy eyed footage of Naomi Watts looking longingly into Kong's eyes and every time I saw that, it made no sense. 

 

A classic case of Stockholm syndrome.

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When I'll listen to the Star Trek: Generations expanded edition, do I need to keep any OST tracks presented on disc 2, or are they all the same as in the main program?

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2 hours ago, bruce marshall said:

Can Publicist please delete his MORRICONE filmography.

I appreciate the gesture but it is making it extremely DIFFICULT to navigate this page on a phone.

Thank you.

You're really griping without a pause. Could you stop attaching these gigantic photos to every second post. You make it difficult to navigate this page on the computer.

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50 minutes ago, Brundlefly said:

You're really griping without a pause. Could you stop attaching these gigantic photos to every second post. You make it difficult to navigate this page on the computer.

 

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3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Yeah, it's not like he didn't provide the link as well.

I also have the book he took the list from.

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@bruce marshall I don't understand your complaint.  He posted a filmography on page 2, and the current discussion has been on page 3 since yesterday.  Are you constantly returning to page 2 of that thread?

In the future, please post an inquiry like this in the actual thread the post you are asking about is in, instead of a different thread.  Thanks.

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1 hour ago, Jay said:

@bruce marshall I don't understand your complaint.  He posted a filmography on page 2, and the current discussion has been on page 3 since yesterday.  Are you constantly returning to page 2 of that thread?

In the future, please post an inquiry like this in the actual thread the post you are asking about is in, instead of a different thread.  Thanks.

Got it( I thought I had posted it here, but I mistakenly put it in a unrelated thread)

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, bollemanneke said:

Could any tech-savvy person tell me if the quality of the iTunes bonus tracks for Casino Royale and Skyfall are equivalent to 320kbps MP3?

Yep.

Nope.

Maybe.

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2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Always the gentleman!

But I DID give him the CORRECT answer.

Did I not?

I could have pulled a ' Holko' and quoted Ennios complete tomography😡😵😠

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Another question. I found two soundtracks for the Pink Panther Strikes Again, one with 18 tracks and another with 32 tracks. Which of these is an official release, or are they both?

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On 6/29/2020 at 3:02 AM, karelm said:

I actually came to understand this from the 1933 film which was on TV this weekend.  Carl Denham (Jack Black) realized this was a Beauty and the Beast parable where the beast was obsessed with the beauty resulting in his demise.  Kong's obsession with Ann Darrow resulted in his demise.  That is the opposite of Jackson's 2005 version where the Beauty was obsessed with the beast so the line made no sense.

 

I don't think Jack Black is old enough to have played in the 1933 version. ;)

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52 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

Another question. I found two soundtracks for the Pink Panther Strikes Again, one with 18 tracks and another with 32 tracks. Which of these is an official release, or are they both?

Never mind, found the answer.

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5 hours ago, bollemanneke said:

Another question. I found two soundtracks for the Pink Panther Strikes Again, one with 18 tracks and another with 32 tracks. Which of these is an official release, or are they both?

 

The OST LP that came out concurrent with the film in 1976 had 12 tracks.

 

In 1998, Rykodisc released the OST LP on CD, where it was followed by 6 bonus tracks (additional cues from the score) bringing it to 18 tracks.

 

In 2014, Quartet Records released a complete edition with 32 tracks, limited to 1,000 copies.

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I mean it depends on your point of view; It's the complete score so the old albums don't have anything that isn't on it, but you might prefer that particular program, the way Mancini chose to present the score when it was fresh to him.  No reason not to check out both programs

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So...

 

Thinking about getting Jaws, I never had much interest in the film or the score, but have since come around to liking it. Does anyone know which version is the best/definitive to get, and where to get it from?

 

I'm probably too late after all these years!

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Film: bluray's great, listen to the mono mix (found in the menu as 2.0), I hear the recent 4k's good too.

Score: only the Intrada, sounds the best (not great but the best) and complete... well, was complete, Intrada's out of stock now and they can only bring it back with a different program or something so the next edition won't have the source music with Spielberg on clarinet and stuff.

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31 minutes ago, Holko said:

Film: bluray's great, listen to the mono mix (found in the menu as 2.0), I hear the recent 4k's good too.

Score: only the Intrada, sounds the best (not great but the best) and complete... well, was complete, Intrada's out of stock now and they can only bring it back with a different program or something so the next edition won't have the source music with Spielberg on clarinet and stuff.

Thanks Holko, is the source music a necessity i.e. composed by Williams?

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14 minutes ago, Arpy said:

Thanks Holko, is the source music a necessity i.e. composed by Williams?

Two marching band pieces composed by Williams, four non-Williams compositions in a smalltown beach band arrangement. We know there were more pieces recorded too, but Williams didn't allow them to be released, he did allow these. They won't be a gigantic tragic loss but it's still good material that was released before and won't be again. Doug Fake doesn't quite have his story straight yet, first time he talked about this Jaws situation (conveniently only after it all sold out) he said they'd be removing the alternates from disc 1 too and some of those are great to have.

 

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1 hour ago, Arpy said:

So...

 

Thinking about getting Jaws, I never had much interest in the film or the score, but have since come around to liking it. Does anyone know which version is the best/definitive to get, and where to get it from?

 

I'm probably too late after all these years!

 

You might want to know that the old OST is a great presentation and has quite good sound as well, and used copies are available for pocket change.

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And that it's a rerecording, missing great stuff, sound is still not great by any means, and it's also on the Intrada disc 2 so it'd just be completely redundant to get an early 90s pressing if you also want the real thing sometime down the line.

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I pointed out a good option for someone who's not a fanatic about the score and don't want to wait for Intrada to get it out there again. The OST is among the better sounding ones of JW's, and the sound quality is much better than on the complete score.

 

@Arpy, if sound quality is an issue, there's always Varese's rerecording, but that has additional reverb, a few flubbed notes, and somewhat lackluster performance in some tracks. It's still a decent rerecording.

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I really find the OST's sound a lot less appealing than the score's, I can get used to one but not the other. I have no idea how to describe it either, not enough low end, echoey, sometimes distant, brass and strings sometimes shrill, stereo field can be all over the place and unpleasant, it's just weird.

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32 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

 

Why does every effin expansion have to be 2 or more discs?

What ever happened to " bonus tracks"?

Thor, is that you?

 

 

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5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

there's always Varese's rerecording, but that has additional reverb

 

Like the OST?

 

5 hours ago, Holko said:

I really find the OST's sound a lot less appealing than the score's, I can get used to one but not the other. I have no idea how to describe it either, not enough low end, echoey, sometimes distant, brass and strings sometimes shrill, stereo field can be all over the place and unpleasant, it's just weird.

 

The OST has the definitive, i.e. fully developed, versions of some pieces. I can only calmly listen to Montage if I keep in mind that we also have the full version on the album. The film version sounds like a microedit fest, no matter which version came first.

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Huh. To me Montage sounds like a perfectly fine snappy little diversion while Promenade feels bloated and meandering in comparison, overstaying its welcome a bit, that early horn solo part especially.

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10 hours ago, Arpy said:

Thor, is that you?

 

 

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No.

Thor opposes All expansions.😳

I oppose c and c expansions-  AKA recording sessions.😠

Including ' alternates' that merely have a different coda is not my idea of including " bonus" tracks😵

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