Jay 37,336 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Most of the expanded versions of his stuff are OOP Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Bespin said: Mancini... that's a big Pandora box to open, I never had the courage yet to jump in! It's best to start with BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S, as it's his most popular score. A "best of", featuring stuff like THE PINK PANTHER, BABY ELEPHANT WALK, DAYS OF WINE AND ROSES, etc., is fine, as well. If you feel a bit more adventurous, his score for LIFEFORCE is good. My favourite Mancini score is NIGHTWING, but that might be a little too "out there", for you. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Touch of Evil is his best score imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I guess it's the most relatable to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just what are you insuatin'?😠 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I currently have only one Mancini CD (featured two original albums) and I love it. An essential JWFAN item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Ah I forgot, this Kunzel re-recording is essential too I think. https://www.discogs.com/Erich-Kunzel-Cincinnati-Pops-Orchestra-Mancinis-Greatest-Hits/release/4886140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,708 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Have the Star Wars OT soundtracks been released in any kind of high-res, 5.1 format? I've always been happy w/the Anthology and RCA releases, and haven't paid much attention to the Sony/Disney reissues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Nope Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I remember reading around the time SW Ep. 1 was released that there was only one moment in the entire film that was entirely untouched by computer VFX or enhancement. From what I could tell at the time, this occurs at 5:17 in the movie. After the ship Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan arrive in is blown up and QG and OW jump up with lightsabers drawn, the camera cuts to a baseboard vent with gas coming out. The cutaway lasts only about two seconds. Can anyone confirm if there really was only one moment that was not enhanced, and whether I'm right about that moment being the vent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I'm not sure, but there must be some interior shots on Courscant that don't have sfx. "Effects, effects, effects, not effects, not effects, effects, not eff- ah!" On 2/3/2021 at 9:46 PM, Nick1066 said: Have the Star Wars OT soundtracks been released in any kind of high-res, 5.1 format? No. The closest we have to that is the DVD which accompanied the CD of Ep. III. It had a selection of music from all six films in 5.1 (all remixed by Shawn Murphy, so don't expect much, especially after the DVD-A of A.I.), plus a narration (of sorts) by Ian MacDairmid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Thing is, with coruscant you have all those windows in the background, with ships flying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,911 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Does anyone know what the Star Wars pastiche music at the start of this video is? It sounds like Horner but what's it from and who is the composer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 @thx99 is usually pretty good at figuring that stuff out thx99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I'm sure there are loads of close-up shots of actors that have no special effects work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Everything is fake these days, even some JWfans's opinions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Bayesian and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, The Big Man said: I'm sure there are loads of close-up shots of actors that have no special effects work. But behind their heads or bodies would be backgrounds that need digital manipulation (spaceships, alien worlds, jar-jar binkses...). The baseboard vent cutaway, however, is the only plausible candidate, as far as I can tell. It’s literally just two seconds of a baseboard vent with smoke coming out. So I feel that must be it, assuming that that fact I read was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,514 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Could be CG smoke. How about the 3PO POV shots when Anakin's about to leave? Those are just a handheld/steadicam following the kid around in a closed set. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 You didn't know? that was actually all CG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I also recall the bit where Anakin's mum and Qui-Gon are talking while Anakin is working on his racer. It looks like a small set they built with no computer manipulation. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I have a quick question! Why the world is loveless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 10:37 AM, Bayesian said: I remember reading around the time SW Ep. 1 was released that there was only one moment in the entire film that was entirely untouched by computer VFX or enhancement. From what I could tell at the time, this occurs at 5:17 in the movie. After the ship Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan arrive in is blown up and QG and OW jump up with lightsabers drawn, the camera cuts to a baseboard vent with gas coming out. The cutaway lasts only about two seconds. Can anyone confirm if there really was only one moment that was not enhanced, and whether I'm right about that moment being the vent? Sounds like a fake tidbit used to promote the movie somehow by bragging about Digital Technology and how advanced it was. Or something made up on The Force Dot Net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 10:37 AM, Bayesian said: I remember reading around the time SW Ep. 1 was released that there was only one moment in the entire film that was entirely untouched by computer VFX or enhancement. From what I could tell at the time, this occurs at 5:17 in the movie. After the ship Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan arrive in is blown up and QG and OW jump up with lightsabers drawn, the camera cuts to a baseboard vent with gas coming out. The cutaway lasts only about two seconds. Can anyone confirm if there really was only one moment that was not enhanced, and whether I'm right about that moment being the vent? I could be misremembering, but I feel like that came directly from someone involved in the production, maybe in one of the bonus features. I remember that specific shot being the one mentioned. There are other shots here and there that appear to be VFX-less, but sometimes effects can be pretty un-glamorous, and if done well, it may never register for the audience that something was altered. So who knows. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 What were the shots in TPM done on digital video tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 6 hours ago, The Big Man said: I also recall the bit where Anakin's mum and Qui-Gon are talking while Anakin is working on his racer. It looks like a small set they built with no computer manipulation. It was probably filmed in front of a blue screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: It was probably filmed in front of a blue screen. Blue screen shots didn't look that good back then. It's definitely a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 It was cutting edge blue screen. The bluest screen ever created by mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Bespin said: I have a quick question! Why the world is loveless? It's not loveless, Bes, you just need to know where to look. Besides, we love you. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Not I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: It was cutting edge blue screen. The bluest screen ever created by mankind. Feeling blue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 It's easier being blue than being green, according to an old Sinatra's song. Quote It's not that easy bein' green Having to spend each day the color of the leaves When I think it could be nicer bein' red or yellow or gold Or something much more colourful like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: It's easier being blue than being green, according to an old Sinatra's Kermit the Frog song. Fixed. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Fixed. Frank Sinatra really recorded that song! I don't know if it's funny or sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, Bespin said: Frank Sinatra really recorded that song! Many did, but Kermit was still the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 21 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Many did, but Kermit was still the first. Did you also knew that Cookie Monster was the first to sing "C Is For Cookie"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Now we know what "C" stands for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Careless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 10:37 AM, Bayesian said: I remember reading around the time SW Ep. 1 was released that there was only one moment in the entire film that was entirely untouched by computer VFX or enhancement. From what I could tell at the time, this occurs at 5:17 in the movie. After the ship Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan arrive in is blown up and QG and OW jump up with lightsabers drawn, the camera cuts to a baseboard vent with gas coming out. The cutaway lasts only about two seconds. Can anyone confirm if there really was only one moment that was not enhanced, and whether I'm right about that moment being the vent? After a tiny bit more digging, the source seems to be a TIME article from 1999. The actual wording: "In the end, most of the scenes were digitally created (the final Gungan battle) or enhanced (by extending the standing sets, built only 6 ft. or 7 ft. high, into palaces and Senate chambers). 'A typical summer movie has maybe 2,000 shots, with, say, 250 effects shots,' says [ILM visual effects supervisor John] Knoll. Titanic had about 500. 'This one is backward. Of the 2,200 shots, only about 250 shots are not effects shots.' There is just one sequence totally untouched by the digitalizers. Hint: watch for the vent." For me, this doesn't really clear up the issue. The "sequence" obviously has digital effects, the most obvious being the lightsabers, and probably the stuff outside the window. The shot of the vent itself doesn't have any apparent alterations. There were indeed other shots later on that also look totally unaltered. But perhaps there's some fakery going on that's not obvious. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Pretty mediocre photographic fakery. They cut off your brother's hair! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thx99 1,740 Posted February 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 7:21 PM, karelm said: Does anyone know what the Star Wars pastiche music at the start of this video is? It sounds like Horner but what's it from and who is the composer? "Beyond the Stars" (Jon A. Kull) Megatrax Music Library MX048 Movie Showcase Vol. 2 Tracks 59 (1-minute) and 60 (30-second) Link to album: https://www.megatrax.com/browse-details.php?id=147 Direct link to MP3: https://download.megatrax.com/samples/100/MX048/MX048_59.mp3 P.S. The answer was in the description of the YouTube video... Spoiler Jurassic Shark, Jay and karelm 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I'm currently reading about and listening to Handel's concerti grossi opus 6. 1. Why does every conductor seemingly invent different names for some movements? Teh allegro of one is a gigue in another recording. 2. If everything is written for strings and harpsichord, why do so many people add an oboe and bassoon while replacing the harpsichord with an organ? 3. In short, why does everyone basically do what they want? Why can't they just play what Handel wrote? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: Why can't they just play what Handel wrote? Because Handel wrote dull music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 No, I won't have that! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: I'm currently reading about and listening to Handel's concerti grossi opus 6. 1. Why does every conductor seemingly invent different names for some movements? Teh allegro of one is a gigue in another recording. 2. If everything is written for strings and harpsichord, why do so many people add an oboe and bassoon while replacing the harpsichord with an organ? 3. In short, why does everyone basically do what they want? Why can't they just play what Handel wrote? 1. Sometimes, the movements don't have tempo indications. I don't know if that's the case in this particular instance. 2. Basso continuo. https://www.classical-music.com/features/articles/what-isbasso-continuo/#:~:text=A basso continuo is%2C in,version%2C 'through bass'. 3. Leaving room for interpretation is a good thing! 43 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: No, I won't have that! Me neither, but I prefer his concerti grossi op. 3. Bespin, on the other hand, is quite boring. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, thx99 said: P.S. The answer was in the description of the YouTube video... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, thx99 said: P.S. The answer was in the description of the YouTube video... You wizard! thx99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,275 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Does anybody have any idea what this piece of music is? https://voca.ro/1573QddDrfIB Just an easy listening instrumental, heard it pop up in both Strangers With Candy and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. No credit, music apps don't recognize it. Probably a library/royalty free track, may be impossible to track down but sometimes you guys are good at that. Just curious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 It sounds like it's some sort of riff on Theme From A Summer Place. That trumpet at :24 is flat as a pancake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 11 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Does anybody have any idea what this piece of music is? https://voca.ro/1573QddDrfIB "Melody for Lovers" (Gerhard Narholz) Martini Lounge (SCD-0261) Sonoton Music Library Track 18 Link to album: https://www.apmmusic.com/albums/SCD-0261 Direct link to MP3: https://audio.prod.apmmusic.com/mp3_128/SON/SCD/SON_SCD_0261/SON_SCD_0261_01801.mp3 mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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