karelm 2587 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 What do you think of Spielberg's first feature film, "Firelight" (1964)? He was 17 years old when he made this 140 minute film that was never shown in public and is about a couple getting abducted by aliens...sort of a prequel to Close Encounters. Five short years later, he was directing Joan Crawford on what is his first professional credit, an episode of Night Gallery (1969). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4496 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I was watching this compilation of old commercials that aired in the early 2000s on Cartoon Network from Brazil, and now I want to know the name of the piece of music for strings that plays on this commercial from 4:15 to 5:13. Sounds like something from Morricone or another European composer, but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5791 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 13 hours ago, karelm said: What do you think of Spielberg's first feature film, "Firelight" (1964)? He was 17 years old when he made this 140 minute film that was never shown in public and is about a couple getting abducted by aliens...sort of a prequel to Close Encounters. Five short years later, he was directing Joan Crawford on what is his first professional credit, an episode of Night Gallery (1969). Well, hard to make a proper judgement based on the few clips that have been made available over the years. But yeah -- from those clips, you can certainly glean a talent. I've been more interested in his subsequent television work, which boasts some impressive shots (especially "LA 2017" from THE NAME OF THE GAME). 9 hours ago, Edmilson said: I was watching this compilation of old commercials that aired in the early 2000s on Cartoon Network from Brazil, and now I want to know the name of the piece of music for strings that plays on this commercial from 4:15 to 5:13. Sounds like something from Morricone or another European composer, but I'm not sure. Certainly has a Morricone vibe, yes, but I suspect it's library music that is tailored to be kinda CINEMA PARADISO-like, given the content of the commercial. Edmilson and karelm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2587 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 6 hours ago, Thor said: Well, hard to make a proper judgement based on the few clips that have been made available over the years. But yeah -- from those clips, you can certainly glean a talent. I've been more interested in his subsequent television work, which boasts some impressive shots (especially "LA 2017" from THE NAME OF THE GAME). Certainly has a Morricone vibe, yes, but I suspect it's library music that is tailored to be kinda CINEMA PARADISO-like, given the content of the commercial. Agree with both your points. the commercial music doesn't sound like true Morricone but sounds like something in the style of Morricone. Using true Morricone would be very costly to license so agreed that this is library music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2587 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Of these three, who would you say had the greatest impact on music? Bach, Beethoven, or Beatles? Part of the reason why I ask, I've never heard a single album of the Beatles, and some can argue they were more impactful/influential to the course of music than the greatest classical composers. Similarly, some might argue the greatest composers were at their prime, just as important to music as the Beatles if not more. Perhaps none of these are the right answer and some rap artist or someone I've never heard of is the most impactful? EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I know lots of Beatles songs - I just never sat and listened to an album so probably have never heard 75% of their music but what I have heard transcends their era...just like the greatest composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 2203 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Don’t know the answer, but the Beatles later albums were more than a collection of songs. They were concept albums, quite different than their early albums. So the experience was greater than the sum of its parts, something being lost in todays stream one song society that doesn’t have patience for listening to a physical album. What’s astonishing is how quickly they evolved over, what, maybe six years between Hard Days Night and Let it Be. Sorry, I don’t know much about Beethoven or Bach. You should check out the Beatles starting with Revolver at least. karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2587 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Which version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is best? The 2011 all-star cast or the five+ hour 1979 tv miniseries with Sir Alec Guiness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7510 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 While nothing can match Guinness' superb, understated, and commanding Smiley, the film has a great ensemble cast, and is drenched in early '70s atmosphere. I like both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5791 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Never saw the original, but I dig the film. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7510 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 You should, @Thor, it's one of the defining moments of British television. The film is a good distillation of the TV show, and with a cast that includes Oldman, Hurt, Cumberbatch, Firth, Strong, Hinds, Jones, Hardy, and Lloyd Pack, you just can't go wrong. @karelm, watch the telly show, then watch the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 1363 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I have something which I would like some advice on. I have a list of TV shows I want to watch. But I find it hard to start a series and especially to continue watching them. A lot of the time new/old movies, new series, books or listening to new scores get in the way. I was wondering how some of you keep uo to date. If you choose to watch a series of say 6 seasons, and ignore everything else, or do you have the same thing as me. That you start, and then at season 2 something else comes along and then suddenly you're weeks later and still at season 2? Any thoughts or tips on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5791 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: You should, @Thor, it's one of the defining moments of British television. I probably should. I have some score bits by Burgon on the compilation of his -- those are fine. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6819 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 4 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said: I have something which I would like some advice on. I have a list of TV shows I want to watch. But I find it hard to start a series and especially to continue watching them. A lot of the time new/old movies, new series, books or listening to new scores get in the way. I was wondering how some of you keep uo to date. If you choose to watch a series of say 6 seasons, and ignore everything else, or do you have the same thing as me. That you start, and then at season 2 something else comes along and then suddenly you're weeks later and still at season 2? Any thoughts or tips on this? Personnally, I binge-watch. One series at a time, every available seasons. I know I started several series in the last years, then I forgot I was watching them... waiting for an X season... Finally, I totally lost the count of where I am in several of them. When I hear that a "great" series has not been renewed for another season, that's usually my cue to restart them and watch everything, at once. JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: The film is a good distillation of the TV show, and with a cast that includes Oldman, Hurt, Cumberbatch, Strong, Hinds, Jones, Hardy, and Lloyd Pack, you just can't go wrong. No love for Firth? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7510 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Oops! I forgot about Firth! Corrected. 2 hours ago, Thor said: I probably should. I have some score bits by Burgon on the compilation of his -- those are fine. Indeed. His "Nunc Dimittis" is beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Oops! I forgot about Firth! Corrected. Indeed. His "Nunc Dimittis" is beautiful. Huh? Nun tits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7510 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Roughly translated as "Let You Now Depart". It's also known as "The Song Of Simeon". It's what Simeon says the moment that he see the boy Jesus, in the temple, as chronicled in Luke Chapter 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Haven't seen that episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 1421 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I don’t know if anyone remembers the old (possibly made up) statistic that at any time of day there was a Jerry Goldsmith theme playing on tv somewhere in the world… I’m guessing that mantle has been passed to either Bear McCreary or Ramin Djawadi… any other possible contenders for ubiquitous appearances of their music on tv?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2587 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Based on this quote, does anyone know what Ravi Shankar album Crosby gave Harrison? I'd really love to hear it. "David Crosby was friends with George Harrison, and he also helped change the trajectory of his music career and life. He gave Harrison a Ravi Shankar album. Harrison and Shankar would go on to have a fruitful musical and spiritual relationship. Crosby didn’t realize the importance of this at the time, but Harrison told him that he made a significant impact on his life with his gift." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2870 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Okay, this is a stupid question, but I just can't figure it out. How can you search into websites using the wayback machine? So to be clear, I want to search a website they have in their archives for a keyword. I can reach the website just fine, but can't seem to search it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6819 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 With Google you can search into a specific site, eg. 'bespin site:www.jwfan.com/forums'. Usefull for website with a dysfunctional internal search engine (I'm not pointing jwfan.com!). bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 179 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Am i correct in assuming that there is not an archive of SoundCloud (for multiple straightforward reasons) and therefore some things are simply lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7510 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 In SUPERMAN, Superman takes Luthor, and Otis, to prison, but in SUPERMAN II, he, quite happily, murders the three villains, after which, he destroys the Fortress Of Solitude. Why? He's stripped them of their powers, so they are harmless. Why kill them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 On 26/03/2022 at 3:34 PM, GerateWohl said: I am sorry. JWFan means never having to say you're sorry. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2587 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: In SUPERMAN, Superman takes Luthor, and Otis, to prison, but in SUPERMAN II, he, quite happily, murders the three villains, after which, he destroys the Fortress Of Solitude. Why? He's stripped them of their powers, so they are harmless. Why kill them? The original story had a different ending. Donner's version, Superman went back in time to when they were trapped again in their floating prison thing. Donner got fired and Lester came in and made a very different movie. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7510 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Ah, yes! Isn't that what happened at the end of the RDC? 2 hours ago, karelm said: ... Lester came in and made a very different movie. That's an understatement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 684 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 7 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: In SUPERMAN, Superman takes Luthor, and Otis, to prison, but in SUPERMAN II, he, quite happily, murders the three villains, after which, he destroys the Fortress Of Solitude. Why? He's stripped them of their powers, so they are harmless. Why kill them? I don't think the intent was to kill them, since there is available footage shot of police coming to arrest them and Luthor. So it's fairly likely they were simply put into some form of holding cells when thrown into the small chasms. However, I guess it made the movie run overtime, so it's only in the early TV airings and special features on the RDC release (which makes me question who actually shot those bits if Donner only had the reversing Earth thing in mind). Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6819 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 What do you think you guys of a 100-CD boxset for an artist? (when he have enough material to do it of course). 1924-2024... 100 years... 100 CD? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7510 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Ah, Bes! We were beginning to worry about you! Yes, if a composer's output merits it. I'm pretty sure that Beethoven, or Mozart, or Handel, or Schubert, could occupy 100 CDs. Also, I'm pretty sure that many conductor's output would fill 100 CDs. Heck with all of the Bootleg series, I'm sure we have nigh-on 100, for Dylan. Andy and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30967 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Yo Yo Ma has a 90-CD box set https://www.amazon.com/Yo-Yo-Ma-Years-Outside-Box/dp/B002IC10Y8 Bespin and filmmusic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6819 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 17 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Ah, Bes! We were beginning to worry about you! Yes, if a composer's output merits it. I'm pretty sure that Beethoven, or Mozart, or Handel, or Schubert, could occupy 100 CDs. Also, I'm pretty sure that many conductor's output would fill 100 CDs. Heck with all of the Bootleg series, I'm sure we have nigh-on 100, for Dylan. Of course, that's where I wanted to go... to get 100 CD for a pop/rock artist, it usually implies to mix together the studio recordings, the lives and some rarities or bootlegs. I'm against that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6217 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 5 hours ago, Bespin said: What do you think you guys of a 100-CD boxset for an artist? (when he have enough material to do it of course). I don't have any, and there are few artists for whom I'd consider investing in such a thing (and if I would, I probably have too many of the discs already to warrant getting them all over again). But I suppose they make sense if we're talking about *performing artists*. For composers I doubt they make sense - I love getting full symphony cycles and stuff like that, which are usually limited to something not exceeding 15 or so discs, and which have a certain consistency in interpretation and performance. But when it gets to 100 disc "complete works" sets for *composers*, you really have to question how many of the selected recordings you're actually interested in vs how different your own "complete works" selection would be if you picked each recording individually. Jurassic Shark and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I've got the Previn EMI box, and I'm planning to get the Szell Sony box. However, one major downside to such boxes is that they're quite impractical when it comes to handling. I prefer smaller boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 2845 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I've been trying to find a thread that's like "things only JWFan members do" or "you might be a film score fan if.." but can't remember it. Anyone know what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6217 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 When you find it, you can add Quote trying to find a thread that's like "things only JWFan members do" or "you might be a film score fan if.." to the things listed in it. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7510 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 On 09/03/2023 at 11:56 PM, Jurassic Shark said: I prefer smaller boxes. Ooh, er, missus! Glóin the Dark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2870 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Question. Can I connect a PlayStation to my computer and use it as a temporary Blu-Ray drive? If so, what do I need? The idea is to rip Blu-Ray audio. I only don't have my own BR drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3550 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Most likely not. At least not without a lot of work bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30967 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 No, you can't do that. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2870 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Thanks, would have been too easy I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2870 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Follow-up: will any Blu-Ray drive read BR audio? The only brand my local shop is offering is Verbatim, but they just told me they can’t be sure whether their own stuff supports BR Audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6217 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 As far as I know, any drive will read any type of Blu-ray format (because they all use the same file system, only the folder structure and content differ). Whether you can then decode and play the content depends on the software. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30967 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Follow-up: will any Blu-Ray drive read BR audio? The only brand my local shop is offering is Verbatim, but they just told me they can’t be sure whether their own stuff supports BR Audio. You might be able to find a cheaper blu-ray-drive to hook up to your computer through Amazon, Newegg, or some other online store, than your local shop. But either way, yes, you can use your computer to rip the audio out of a Blu Ray movie or the audio out of a Blu Ray Audio release, if you have the right software on your computer. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2870 Posted Sunday at 10:06 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:06 AM Drive arrived today, cost me €99, but what the hell. Next up, buying JW in Vienna/Berlin on Blu-Ray, then Harry Potter, then forcing myself not to update the whole DVD collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 161 Posted Sunday at 11:04 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:04 AM On 12/03/2023 at 8:04 PM, Cerebral Cortex said: I've been trying to find a thread that's like "things only JWFan members do" or "you might be a film score fan if.." but can't remember it. Anyone know what I mean? This the thread you're talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5619 Posted Thursday at 06:02 AM Share Posted Thursday at 06:02 AM Brain fart, what is this from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1465 Posted Thursday at 12:18 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:18 PM 6 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Brain fart, what is this from Dragonheart mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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