Label Threads The Official Film Score Monthly (FSM) Thread

[Naïve Old Fart 9,515]

It's a great shame, that a suprerb soundtrack like "Logan's Run" can't sell even 6500 copies worldwide, while gobshite by godsawful pop tarts sells over 1000 times that every day!

[indy4 155]

I hope the crutch isn't that he didn't tell the AFM... that couldn't be good.

I'm assuming that's what happened. If AFM limited the pressings to 3,000 then why would they let him press more than that? And if they did, then why would Lukas bother lying about the amount of pressings?

Then again, if this is the case I don't see the logic in admitting this, especially since Lukas is in debt and it could lead to a lawsuit.

[Joe Brausam 214]

But he did tell them. And they were paid accordingly. He said as such.

[indy4 155]

So then why did he say "Ah, the life of crime"...?

[Joe Brausam 214]

I believe that he repressed first, and informed/payed later.

[Richard Penna 3,684]

I don't think Lukas is ethically in the wrong, assuming he did actually pay the AFM at (or shortly after) the time of repressing.

I see it as all based on the per-unit principle, so if he thinks another 3000 will sell, the union would be stupid to not accept the extra fees.

Strict legalities may be another matter, but then it's no secret that I think the whole union-reuse-fees is one of the most bafflingly impractical business models I've come across. I don't care for the legalities.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

They pressed more, the whoever got paid more. We didn't know. The life of crime refers to lying to the consumers. Those particular scores were not limited to the number printed on the back of the CD.

[Trent B 337]

I don't see anything wrong with this either. If any one does feel cheated then they should re-think their stand on things. None of us are entitled to this music. We are very lucky and fortunate that the labels are even getting this stuff out to us.

They literally go through hell to even get the rights for this material and then do the pressings and releases. More people need to be thankful instead of being childish and bitch about it.

If it weren't for the labels all we would have right now are the single disc releases and or re-recordings.

[indy4 155]

They pressed more, the whoever got paid more. We didn't know. The life of crime refers to lying to the consumers. Those particular scores were not limited to the number printed on the back of the CD.

Ah, I guess that makes sense, as it is illegal for commercial speech to be "false or misleading". Still, I wouldn't risk that. Not sure if this is a suable offense, but you never know if there's a crazy soundtrack fan out there who would take legal action and force Lukas into even more debt. But I'm sure Lukas knows what he's doing in aunnoncing this.

[Ollie 1,059]

Next 2 releases:

The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T.

Kung Fu/Man in the Wilderness

[Jay 37,346]

I like linking to the pages at FSM rather than the pages at SAE, since you can see more artwork and the site is easier on the eyes:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/432/5000-Fingers-of-Dr.-T.-The/

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/462/Kung-Fu-Man-in-the-Wilderness/

[Andy 4,119]

I wonder if Lukas is trying to lead by example, and encourage the other labels to drop the whole limited pressing idea in favor of larger editions (for popular titles and composers). Obviously selling more copies "keeps the lights on". But also consider that nuking the "limited edition" collector mentality could be a long term goal. Comic book collecting and trading card collecting both collapsed in upon themselves because of a similar mentality. If Lukas is proposing a business model that favors the music itself over the collectibility, perhaps in some way it'll help the longevity of the niche market.

[scallenger 483]

I hope you are right, Hedji!

[Wojo 2,453]

Maybe Intrada will find a few more Predators.

[Hlao-roo 389]

Maybe Intrada will find a few more Predators.

...lest they become prey.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

They pressed more, the whoever got paid more. We didn't know. The life of crime refers to lying to the consumers. Those particular scores were not limited to the number printed on the back of the CD.

Ah, I guess that makes sense, as it is illegal for commercial speech to be "false or misleading". Still, I wouldn't risk that. Not sure if this is a suable offense, but you never know if there's a crazy soundtrack fan out there who would take legal action and force Lukas into even more debt. But I'm sure Lukas knows what he's doing in aunnoncing this.

That son-of-a-bitch devalued my investment! He will perish in legal flames!

[Ollie 1,059]

Look for Poltergeist to hopefully be ready by mid December.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=73003&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=5&r=976#bottom

[crocodile 8,000]

It so happens I'm listening to the Rhino album right now.

karol

[Jay 37,346]

Lukas's post said:

We just got approvals so look for Poltergeist by mid-December. Sorry I can't be more specific but we can't control how long the pressing plant will take, especially this close to Xmas. Thanks.

Lukas

[Wojo 2,453]

I've never heard or seen Poltergeist. I bought the Poltergeist II album six months ago but never took the shrink wrap off.

[scallenger 483]

AWESOME!!!

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I've never heard or seen Poltergeist. I bought the Poltergeist II album six months ago but never took the shrink wrap off.

It's amazing. Set credit card for "buy".

[Jacob 0]

I've never heard or seen Poltergeist.

Me also. I think I might make this my first official Goldsmith purchase.

[crocodile 8,000]

That would be a good place to start. A perfection, this score is. Somewhere between fairy tale and horror. Always listenable.

Karol

[Marian Schedenig 8,191]

I've never heard or seen Poltergeist. I bought the Poltergeist II album six months ago but never took the shrink wrap off.

!!!!

If you do check out Poltergeist II before the original is out, don't let that deceive you; Poltergeist is in another league entirely. Twisted Abduction is part of my dream Goldsmith concert programme.

[John Crichton 4]

I just got a hold of a copy of Poltergeist II not that long ago and have really enjoyed it. The first one is a definite buy.

[Ollie 1,059]

I need to remember that I'm now more of an elder statesman in the film score world now and that it's been 20+ years since Poltergeist was released, so it's possible that there are some who have never heard the score.

[Wojo 2,453]

That has little to do with it. I'm more familiar with the score to The Wizard of Oz than I am with Poltergeist, since I have seen the film and bought and listened to the score to the former, while I have never seen or heard film nor score of the latter or its sequel. And since my rip/tag pile is quite large, I daresay I won't get to Poltergeist II before Christmas.

[Ollie 1,059]

Actually you sort of proved my point, you haven't seen it yet.

The reason I mentioned the 20 years is because quite a few of you are younger than me, so you didn't grow up with Poltergeist or you weren't old enough to see it. Plus most parents would allow a child to see the Wizard Of Oz instead of Poltergeist.

Now that's not the main reason why some haven't seen Poltergeist but it does apply in some cases.

[John Crichton 4]

Hate to break it to you...you ARE the elder statesman.

[Jacob 0]

AKA, the old fart.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Haven't seen the film and never heard the score. Will buy FSM's release though. It's landmark Goldsmith.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Bastard, she's just a baybay!

[indy4 155]

The score didn't impress me when I saw the film. I don't have the OST, so I won't be getting this.

[Richard Penna 3,684]

I find the word 'landmark' tossed around too much where scores are concerned. It's certainly not enough to make me blind-buy something. Poltergeist is not on my list.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

If Poltergeist doesn't impress a film score listener, I don't know what will.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,515]

Actually you sort of proved my point, you haven't seen it yet.

The reason I mentioned the 20 years is because quite a few of you are younger than me, so you didn't grow up with Poltergeist or you weren't old enough to see it. Plus most parents would allow a child to see the Wizard Of Oz instead of Poltergeist.

Now that's not the main reason why some haven't seen Poltergeist but it does apply in some cases.

I saw "Poltergeist" at The Empire cinema, Leicester Square, in September, 1982, and in 70mm, six-track magnectic stereo. Who's the old fart now?

[Incanus 5,714]

I just bought the Rhino/Sony version of Poltergeist last summer so I don't know if I am willing to shell out more money to get the FSM release. It would have to be pretty spectacular for me to rush to buy it.

[Ollie 1,059]

Actually you sort of proved my point, you haven't seen it yet.

The reason I mentioned the 20 years is because quite a few of you are younger than me, so you didn't grow up with Poltergeist or you weren't old enough to see it. Plus most parents would allow a child to see the Wizard Of Oz instead of Poltergeist.

Now that's not the main reason why some haven't seen Poltergeist but it does apply in some cases.

I saw "Poltergeist" at The Empire cinema, Leicester Square, in September, 1982, and in 70mm, six-track magnectic stereo. Who's the old fart now?

If you want to admit to it fine by me.

I never said I was the oldest fart here, just one of em.

As far as landmark scores, I don't throw the word great around too often and I think it's way overused here, especially with Williams' works, but Poltergeist is a great score and a huge achievement by Goldsmith.

Had E.T. not been nominated for best score that year, Poltergeist should have been the hands down favorite to win.

[Jay 37,346]

1982 was an amazing year for film scores - ET, Poltergeist, Wrath of Khan, The Dark Crystal...

[Andy 4,119]

1982 was an amazing year for film scores - ET, Poltergeist, Wrath of Khan, The Dark Crystal...

An amazing year for genre films in general - Tron, the Road Warrior, Blade Runner

And look, out of all the films Jay and I mentioned, there's only two sequels and no remakes.

[Jay 37,346]

The Thing was 1982 as well!

[Andy 4,119]

The Thing, yeah. (Oops, there goes my no-remake point )

But 1982 also gave my favorite horror movie, Creepshow.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

If Poltergeist doesn't impress a film score listener, I don't know what will.

I agree.

[Ollie 1,059]

I've learned over the years there's no accounting for taste.

[crocodile 8,000]

If Poltergeist doesn't impress a film score listener, I don't know what will.

I agree.

Karol

[TownerFan 4,983]

The Thing was 1982 as well!

Conan The Barbarian is 1982 too. And don't forget Monsignor.

[Ollie 1,059]

Let's face it, between 1974 and 1985, a ton of great scores were composed by everyone.

[Ollie 1,059]

Next release, North Dallas Forty.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/465/North-Dallas-Forty/

[Koray Savas 2,251]

So I got an email from SAE offering a 10% thanksgiving discount. I'm supposed to write "thanksgiving" in the discount code box before I confirm my order, but there is no change on the invoice when I do. Do they apply it themselves later, or is something wrong on my end?