indy4 152 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I don't own many scores by either of the options, but I voted James Horner in the end. Nothing Horner did has matched ST: TMP, but overall Horner wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Horngoldsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Horner was one of my first discoveries as well, but I quickly realized I could do much better. As far as I'm concerned he did Star Treks II and III and Willow and that's the extent of my interest.Would you be open to a few suggestions? IMO there are at least a few other "essential" Horner scores where the good outweighs his usual offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Goldsmith, easy for me.Although yesterday I popped in STII:TWOK and concede that Horner definitely could write great stuff, if only he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,602 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 James who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Bond... James Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 32 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Horner was one of my first discoveries as well, but I quickly realized I could do much better. As far as I'm concerned he did Star Treks II and III and Willow and that's the extent of my interest.Would you be open to a few suggestions? IMO there are at least a few other "essential" Horner scores where the good outweighs his usual offenses.I absolutely love The Rocketeer. He does use a lot of his trademark ideas for the time (four-note evil theme--not to be confused with the danger motif, which does pop up in the complete score--slam-bang finish, etc.), but IMO, a lot of these are perfections of those ideas, and there's a lot of good original stuff. The main theme is one of my absolute favorites, Jenny's theme is wonderful, and hey, even Peavey's theme is good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Yes, The Rocketeer is definitey one of Horner's best. My other absolute favorites of his are Glory, The Land Before Time, and Krull. They all have great themes, action music, original end credit suites, and either minimal use of his trademarks, or as you said, the best executions of those ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 1,492 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 At the risk of "overrating" the score, I'll throw in another vote for The Rocketeer. It was the one score that "brought me back" to Horner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Sneakers! And Brainstorm is damn fine, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Goldsmith. But I consider Williams, Goldsmith, and Horner the trio deities of Musical Mount Olympus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,017 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Yes, The Rocketeer is definitey one of Horner's best. My other absolute favorites of his are Glory, The Land Before Time, and Krull. They all have great themes, action music, original end credit suites, and either minimal use of his trademarks, or as you said, the best executions of those ideas.I am rather fond of An American Tail, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 349 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 As much as it pains me....as I think Goldsmith is superior....I listen to Horner constantly I love it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Horner was one of my first discoveries as well, but I quickly realized I could do much better. As far as I'm concerned he did Star Treks II and III and Willow and that's the extent of my interest.Would you be open to a few suggestions? IMO there are at least a few other "essential" Horner scores where the good outweighs his usual offenses.Don't worry, in time John will become a true believer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 A lot of Horner scores mentioned in this thread, but not one of his very best:Aliens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 An American Tail: Feivel Goes West is my favorite Horner score. Commando is terribly hilarious. If you think Hans Zimmer will give you a headache, this score will give you an aneurism.The Perfect Storm is another one of his I really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Titanic and Wrath of Khan are my favorite Horner scores. But I also like Field of Dreams, Apollo 13, Bicentennial Man, and Casper (hey, that's my entire Horner collection). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 The Mask of Zorro and The Legend of Zorro, good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 A lot of Horner scores mentioned in this thread, but not one of his very best:Aliens!It was a recent listen to that score which inspired the thread actually I'll take it over Goldsmith's Alien any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 195 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 A lot of Horner scores mentioned in this thread, but not one of his very best:Aliens!Hell yeah! One of my all-time favourite scores by any composer. Though I'm not sure I'd say it's better than Jerry's original. IMHO, they're both masterpieces and elevated their respectful movies to a whole new level of dread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 6,637 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Jerry Motherf*cking Goldsmith!I'm with this guy. The tag line for "T.M.P." says it all: "There is NO comparisom"! I can't quite believe that we are having this survey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I like ALIENS, but I like ALIEN a lot more. And not to carp on about Horner's usual tactics, but I like ALIENS a bit less now I found out one of my favourite parts of the score was half-inched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 "half-inched"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Pinched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 Yeah I know what he pinched, but I love the movie too much to care, in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 But why does "half-inched" mean "stolen"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 But why does "half-inched" mean "stolen"?Cockney rhyming slang. Pinched is slang for stolen, that went further down to half-inched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,442 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Maybe when you're stealing, you don't have time to pinch an inch, like the metaphoric test for fat people. You only have time to pinch a half-inch and then skedaddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 388 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Yes, The Rocketeer is definitey one of Horner's best. My other absolute favorites of his are Glory, The Land Before Time, and Krull. They all have great themes, action music, original end credit suites, and either minimal use of his trademarks, or as you said, the best executions of those ideas.The Land Before Time borrows a motif pretty blatantly from *batteries not included, but the former score is so gorgeous I tend to forgive the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 That's the spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 THE ROCKETEER has splendid main titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 85 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Jerry Goldsmith. Is the more creative and original composer. James Horner is sometimes very effective, but leans heavily on his fantastic orchestrators. Rocketeer wouldn't be half that great without the work of John Neufeld and Conrad Pope. I don't really like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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