Label Threads The Official Intrada Thread

[Holko 9,499]

59 minutes ago, NL197 said:

I know about these releases, but "Demaster" is clearly some sarcastic term I'm not aware of. 

 

That's because they all suck in various ways. Except RotJ maybe. So instead of Remastered we dubbed them Demastered.

[bruce marshall 1,315]

1 hour ago, NL197 said:

 

I know about these releases, but "Demaster" is clearly some sarcastic term I'm not aware of. 

 

 

But. I. Really. Do. Want. To. Know. 

You can't handle the truth

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429]

Just a quick question about Intrada's website. I was wondering why certain score where labeled as "Sold Out" while most of OOP scores pages are usually deleted. Does this mean that those scores are likely to come back or are they just randomly still up?

[Jay 37,312]

Nah, it only means they haven't bothered to remove the page yet.  They tend to purge the pages for OOP titles in big swaths, it never just happens automatically when stuff sells out or anything.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429]

Thanks, I've always wondered especially as some of them are one that I've missed like Balto, The Rocketeer or The Shadow and they are always teasing me... evil them

 

By the way there's an incredible score that I've never heard about it's apparently Williams first score since it was writen in 1946:

[Jay 37,312]

Ha, that's funny they put its a wonder life under the wrong composer!

 

Balto and The Shadow sold out a while back and have never returned.  Maybe they'll revisit them someday?  Who knows!

The Rocketeer was in print for a long time and they even reissued it with remastered sound.  I hadn't realized that remastered edition was no longer for sale physically (or I did but forgot); However, you can buy it as a digital download in 16/44.1 on qobuz

 

https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/the-rocketeer-james-horner/xxyk109u1cnea

[Groovygoth666 650]

On 18/12/2021 at 8:55 PM, Jay said:

Roger says

"Composer line up for 2022 (partial) And in no particular order: James Horner, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner, Michael Kamen, Basil Poledouris, James Horner, Miklos Rozsa, John Williams, Alan Silvestri, Henry Mancini, Jay Chattaway. And hopefully more."

 

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8827

 

I'll definitely get whatever the Williams release is. The only other one I'd be interested in is Kamen, hopefully Three Musketeers or What Dreams May Come paired with Ennio Morricones rejected score would be a dream release.

[Corellian2019 384]

Brazil - complete!

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

Coming January 11th...

 

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8833

 

Looks like Horner fans are off to a great start in 2022!  

[1977 1,743]

So do these count as one or two Horners I wonder?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Well Jay at least decided they were worth two separate threads 

[Jay 37,312]

15 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

So do these count as one or two Horners I wonder?

 

Two

[Yavar Moradi 2,590]

On 03/01/2022 at 8:30 AM, JTWfan77 said:

So do these count as one or two Horners I wonder?

 

I mean Horner wrote the original score in 1982, the same year as Star Trek II, and the sequel score nearly a decade later in 1990. I *kinda* understand someone treating his two Trek efforts as "one long score", but would people treat his two American Tails or two Zorros that way? That would be weird, to me.

 

Yavar

[Disco Stu 15,495]

On 18/12/2021 at 3:55 PM, Jay said:

Roger says

"Composer line up for 2022 (partial) And in no particular order: James Horner, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner, Michael Kamen, Basil Poledouris, James Horner, Miklos Rozsa, John Williams, Alan Silvestri, Henry Mancini, Jay Chattaway. And hopefully more."

 

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8827

 

I wonder what on earth the Chattaway could be.  I've never heard of anything he's done outside of Star Trek and besides, (a) I can't see Intrada stepping into LLL's Trek territory and (b) I can't see anyone doing a "just Chattaway" Trek release anyway.

 

On 04/01/2022 at 7:10 PM, Yavar Moradi said:

 

I mean Horner wrote the original score in 1982, the same year as Star Trek II, and the sequel score nearly a decade later in 1990. I *kinda* understand someone treating his two Trek efforts as "one long score", but would people treat his two American Tails or two Zorros that way? That would be weird, to me.

 

Yavar

 

But also, and no offense to the scores or fans of them, these are minor enough in Horner's oeuvre that I think it makes more sense to group discussion of them into a single thread.

[Jay 37,312]

1 minute ago, Disco Stu said:

I wonder what on earth the Chattaway could be

 

Maniac Cop 1 & 2?

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Is Maniac Cop one of those super obscure movies that has an intense fandom of 4 people on FSM?

[Jay 37,312]

I think horror scores in general are pretty niche, way more so than horror movies themselves

 

I've never seen those films and have no clues what their scores are like.  Just seemed like the most popular thing he's done outside of Star Trek

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Yeah that makes sense.

 

I think outside of Williams, I'm most curious to find out what the Silvestri might be.

[Jay 37,312]

Yea, I can't wait to find out what the Silvestri is too!  Super Mario Bros would be neat, Contact would be amazing.

 

I also wonder what the Henry Mancini could be!  It will likely be an old film I've never seen and maybe never heard of, but every time I listen to any of his music I end up liking it so I'm excited to find out what it is

[Disco Stu 15,495]

It just feels like it's been a few years since we had a really notable, "big" Silvestri expansion.  Roger Rabbit and Mummy Returns were both 2018, was there a big anticipated expansion for him in 2019, 2020, or 2021 that I'm having a brain-fart forgetting?   Y'all know what I mean and it's not meant as a slight on the expansions of smaller movies, which are often the ones I appreciate most anyway.

[Richard Penna 3,674]

Contact is a nice score, but I don't think that the extra music from the DVD iso really adds anything - just variations of the same material.

 

The scene with Ellie sitting on the edge of the canyon, and when they're decoding the 3D signal are two nice little cues, but that's it for me.

 

Overall it doesn't feel like there's as much big Silvestri material to expand than many other composers.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

12 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

It just feels like it's been a few years since we had a really notable, "big" Silvestri expansion.  Roger Rabbit and Mummy Returns were both 2018, was there a big anticipated expansion for him in 2019, 2020, or 2021 that I'm having a brain-fart forgetting?   Y'all know what I mean and it's not meant as a slight on the expansions of smaller movies, which are often the ones I appreciate most anyway.

 

I'm having trouble coming up with a Silvestri expansion of any kind, big or small, since 2018.  Has he really been so neglected?   

[Tom Guernsey 2,280]

10 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

 

I'm having trouble coming up with a Silvestri expansion of any kind, big or small, since 2018.  Has he really been so neglected?   

Surely Polar Express should be at the top of this list?

 

True he’s not had any expansions recently but overall he’s done pretty well. Lots of more obscure entries having been released. 

[Jay 37,312]

39 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

It just feels like it's been a few years since we had a really notable, "big" Silvestri expansion.  Roger Rabbit and Mummy Returns were both 2018, was there a big anticipated expansion for him in 2019, 2020, or 2021 that I'm having a brain-fart forgetting?   Y'all know what I mean and it's not meant as a slight on the expansions of smaller movies, which are often the ones I appreciate most anyway.

 

Here's a complete list of every specialty label Alan Silvestri expansion / premiere

 

1. 2002-07-29 - Romancing The Stone (1984) - Varese
2. 2003-08-19 - Predator (1987) - Varese
3. 2008-07-28 - Delta Force (1986) - Intrada
4. 2009-11-23 - Back To The Future (1985) - Intrada
5. 2010-03-09 - Dutch (1991) - La-La Land
6. 2010-03-23 - Eraser (1996) - La-La Land
7. 2010-11-02 - Predator (1987) - Intrada
8. 2011-09-20 - Young Guns II (1990) - Intrada
9. 2011-11-02 - Overboard (1987) - Music Box 
10. 2012-03-06 - Predator (1987) - Intrada
11. 2012-05-14 - Clan Of The Cave Bear (1986) - Varese (Encore though, so not expanded)
12. 2012-10-09 - The Bodyguard (1992) - La-La Land
13. 2013-06-25 - Fandango (1985) - Intrada 
14. 2013-07-16 - Clean Slate (1994) / The Perez Family (1995) - Music Box
15. 2013-09-11 - Delta Force (1986) - Quartet
16. 2013-12-09 - Blown Away (1994) - Intrada
17. 2014-01-06 - The Abyss (1989) - Varese
18. 2014-05-06 - Mac and Me - Quartet
19. 2014-09-02 - Summer Rental (1985) / Critical Condition (1987) - Quartet
20. 2014-12-01 - Predator 2 (1990) - Varese
21. 2015-05-12 - Judge Dredd (1995) - Intrada
22. 2015-07-21 - Cat's Eye (1985) - Intrada
23. 2015-02-26 - Soapdish (1991) - Quartet
24. 2015-10-20 - Back To The Future (1985) - Intrada
25. 2015-10-20 - Back To The Future 2 (1989) - Intrada
26. 2015-10-27 - Back To The Future 3 (1990) - Varese
27. 2016-05-09 - Volcano (1997) - Varese
28. 2017-08-25 - Romancing The Stone (1984) - La-La Land
29. 2018-01-26 - Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (1988) - Intrada
30. 2018-07-18 - The Mummy Returns (2001) - Intrada

 

I hadn't even realized how consistently we were getting stuff from him literally every single year from 2008-2018, and the it completely stopped! Wow!

[Disco Stu 15,495]

So there really is nothing since 2018, I was hoping I was just missing something.  That sucks, there's so so many Silvestri scores still out there deserving of expansions and even premiere releases.  Hopefully we get a dam burst starting this year!

[Jay 37,312]

Maybe some intended releases are hung up in UMG or Sony Music quagmires.

Plus many left are owned by Varese in perpetuity - Clan of the Cave Bear, Father of the Bride, Death Becomes Her, Forest Gump, Richie Rich, The Quick and the Dead, Mouse Hunt, What Lies Beneath, Identity, Tomb Raider 2...

[Jim Ware 526]

On 18/12/21 at 11:08 PM, Jay said:

I'm mostly curious about what the Silvestri could be!

Van Helsing?

[Jay 37,312]

I can't remember if I like that score or not....

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I think it's the best of his three Sommers collaborations personally

[Edmilson 7,394]

Van Helsing is a great score. An expansion is long overdue.

[mstrox 6,647]

What an awful movie, though.  One of the few movies I’ve seen in my life that I would be willing to say that about.

[John F 100]

My Silvestri hope is Long Kiss Goodnight.  One incredible action score.

[Yavar Moradi 2,590]

4 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

I wonder what on earth the Chattaway could be.  I've never heard of anything he's done outside of Star Trek and besides, (a) I can't see Intrada stepping into LLL's Trek territory and (b) I can't see anyone doing a "just Chattaway" Trek release anyway.

 

I mean, GNP Crescendo already did -- TWICE!

https://www.discogs.com/master/761570-Jay-Chattaway-Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-Original-Soundtrack-Recordings

 

https://www.discogs.com/release/19653694-Various-Star-Trek-Voyager-Music-From-The-Original-Television-Soundtrack-Dolby-Surround

 

Intrada has already shown Jay Chattaway some substantial love by releasing complete editions of his scores for Invasion U.S.A., Missing in Action, and Braddock: Missing in Action III, so I'd say Chattaway is more their territory than LLL's!

 

https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/28768/Invasion+U.S.A.

https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/2833/Missing+In+Action

https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/30131/Braddock%3A+Missing+In+Action+III

 

Now Invasion U.S.A. at least was originally released by Varese Sarabande in the 80s (albeit a shorter program). Varese also premiered several other Jay Chattaway film scores on LP, including the original Maniac (which they reissued in their Little Box of Horrors a few years ago), Silver Bullet (which they brought to their CD Club in 2008), and Red Scorpion, which they premiered simultaneously on LP and CD in 1989. Those three titles have never been expanded!

 

https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/9224/Maniac

https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/28727/Silver+Bullet

https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/2370/Red+Scorpion

 

And they are probably in the same boat as Invasion U.S.A. in that until the 90s, Varese wasn't usually getting perpetuity rights on things -- which is why Intrada was able to expand it! So maybe Intrada is interested in expanding one of those other old Varese albums...that's my best guess. Otherwise it may be a total premiere from Chattaway which I've probably never heard of! I'm certainly not an expert on his non-Trek output.

 

But if you're curious to hear some of these, YouTube's usually helpful:

 

 

4 hours ago, Jay said:

Yea, I can't wait to find out what the Silvestri is too!  Super Mario Bros would be neat, Contact would be amazing.

 

I like Contact a lot, though I agree with Richard that the unreleased material is mostly variations on the same stuff (but I like it, so just as with Rudy or L.A. Confidential which I consider to be in a similar boat, I'd still buy an expansion). Super Mario Bros. is indeed I think the most needed Silvestri premiere at this point; it's great stuff!

 

3 hours ago, Richard Penna said:

Overall it doesn't feel like there's as much big Silvestri material to expand than many other composers.

 

I'm not a Silvestri expert, but Mouse Hunt is the big one I want...although it's almost certainly controlled by Varese Sarabande in perpetuity so they'd have to do it as a Deluxe Edition. As Jay pointed out Varese really controls a decent number of Silvestri scores.

 

Yavar

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Justice for Sgt. Bilko!

[bruce marshall 1,315]

The only Chattaway I have is V- the miniseries

That was released as a ' promo' n Supertracks.

So, maybe it will be reissued/expanded ' officially'?

[Yavar Moradi 2,590]

I think you're thinking of his fellow Trek composer Dennis McCarthy, Bruce:

https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/48249/V

 

The original V miniseries from 1983 was scored by Joe Harnell, but in 1984 Dennis McCarthy worked on both the follow up miniseries V: The Final Battle and subsequent short-lived TV series which ran through 1985. SuperTracks released promos of McCarthy's work on both The Final Battle and the TV series.

 

And for anyone wondering, the V revival was scored by Normand Corbeil (pilot episode) and Marco Beltrami (22 regular episodes).

 

Yavar

[Groovygoth666 650]

I wonder what the Kamen could be? Last Action Hero and Three Musketeers are probably the most requested, with What Dreams May Come and Iron Giant also getting mentions, are there any others that haven't been expanded yet?

[bruce marshall 1,315]

Got my TREK composers mixed up!😅.

MANIAC was part of VS LP to CD series.

Also in the LITTLE BOX OF HORRORS.

Can't see that it needs expanding, but I could be wrong

[Corellian2019 384]

1 hour ago, Groovygoth666 said:

...are there any others that haven't been expanded yet?

 

Brazil-complete!

[Groovygoth666 650]

10 minutes ago, Corellian2019 said:

 

Brazil-complete!

Whoops forgot about Brazil 😅, that's definitely up there for many people, any others?

[mstrox 6,647]

Think there were still a few minutes missing from Robin Hood.

[Groovygoth666 650]

2 hours ago, mstrox said:

Think there were still a few minutes missing from Robin Hood.

Was thinking along the lines of scores that haven't been expanded yet, as much as I want those remaining 5 minutes it'd be nice to see Intrada release something new instead of revisiting Prince of Thieves a third time.

[HunterTech 987]

At this rate, if those remaining 5 minutes are found, they'll likely pull a LLL and just put them on the website, since yet another re-release specifically for them would be overkill.

[Richard Penna 3,674]

10 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

I like Contact a lot, though I agree with Richard that the unreleased material is mostly variations on the same stuff (but I like it, so just as with Rudy or L.A. Confidential which I consider to be in a similar boat, I'd still buy an expansion). Super Mario Bros. is indeed I think the most needed Silvestri premiere at this point; it's great stuff!

 

Annoying thing is I'd find Contact hard to resist if it came out, but I think there are far more valuable projects for them to work on with extra music that's truly unavailable.

[bollemanneke 3,338]

I forgot, is the perfect storm legally expandable?

[Jay 37,312]

Yea

[Jay 37,312]

On 18/12/2021 at 3:55 PM, Jay said:

Roger says

"Composer line up for 2022 (partial) And in no particular order: James Horner, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner, Michael Kamen, Basil Poledouris, James Horner, Miklos Rozsa, John Williams, Alan Silvestri, Henry Mancini, Jay Chattaway. And hopefully more."

 

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8827

 

 

Roger has added to the list:

 

"Let's throw Craig Safan and Laurence Rosenthal into the mix."

 

http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8827&view=unread#unread

[publicist 4,643]

Let's hope for Willow, finally.

[Jay 37,312]

Yes please!

[GerateWohl 4,343]

They should get it going. 2022 is almost over. Unbelievable that it's already end of February.