Label Threads The Official Intrada Thread

[Edmilson 12,263]

3 hours ago, Stéphane Humez said:

The most frustrating is that it's just one email away saying "yes".

But the email could also say "not possible to license that one"... 

Roger said that Disney is still supportive & greatful about the work done. But keep in mind for various reasons it's not always an automatic yes. When they said yes to Crimson Tide, it was also a no for Pearl Harbor (probably because of Warner's involvement with the 2001 album).

What about King Arthur 2004? In theory, that one should be """""""easy""""""" to do in terms of getting the rights, correct? It's an (with all due respect for the movie - which I happen to enjoy) irrelevant movie for Disney at the moment, a forgotten historical epic from over 2 decades ago with no connections to "strategic" Disney franchises of the moment, no Tom Cruise-level of "must keep my image protected at all costs" stars. The OST was done by Hollywood Records, Disney's own label.

 

So, theoretically, that one should be "easy", right? Or maybe, precisely because the movie is so (again, all due respect, lol) irrelevant, if you or someone from your team sent an e-mail to Disney asking for the rights, it would be very low on Disney execs' to-do list?

 

It's one of my favorite Zimmer scores, from my favorite era of his. But, aside from that, my biggest grails by Zimmer and the gang from movies by either Fox or Disney would be pretty hard:

• Kingdom of Heaven by Harry Gregson-Williams (apparently HGW hates expansions);
• Pirates of the Caribbean 3 (post-2005, recorded in the US);
• Pearl Harbor (Warner was involved with the 2001 OST);
• The Lone Ranger (post-2005, recorded in the US);
• Narnia 1 and 2 (HGW hates expansions, and the first one is post the AFM date, recorded in the US);

[Stéphane Humez 1,178]

6 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

What about King Arthur 2004?

I have no idea what's Disney's stance on it. But it sure is my next in line after Pirates... 

[A. A. Ron 2,477]

1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

• Kingdom of Heaven by Harry Gregson-Williams (apparently HGW hates expansions)
• Pirates of the Caribbean 3 (post-2005, recorded in the US)

 

 

I'd take Narnia too, but these are the ones I want. I play bits of Kingdom of Heaven at least every other week.

[Stéphane Humez 1,178]

28 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said:

 

I'd take Narnia too, but these are the ones I want. I play bits of Kingdom of Heaven at least every other week.

Narnia 1 is US recorded and released post August 2005 => not gonna happen.

[Rachael Foley 10,043]

Caspian/Narnia 2 was recorded in London though correct?

[Stéphane Humez 1,178]

11 minutes ago, Rachael Foley said:

Caspian/Narnia 2 was recorded in London though correct?

Absolutely !

[Edmilson 12,263]

So, in theory, Narnia 2 could happen... As well as Kingdom of Heaven (recorded in London, movie released before July of 2005). It only depends on HGW being open to do it (not sure how his instance is at the moment).

 

Narnia 1 not only would have to deal with a theoretical opposition by him but also the AFM bullshit.

[bollemanneke 4,322]

9 hours ago, Stéphane Humez said:

I think out of all the things Roger said, the most important is that Fox is fully Disney now. Even if after the merger the Fox music department kinda operated on its own still (even though under Disney orders), now it's fully integrated to the Disney workflow.

Which is obviously not a good news. Disney is slower & slower with projects, as Roger explained with Disney+ they have a shitload of content to deal with, much more than ever before, so they have less & less time for "us". So grab all those amazing La-La, Intrada & co Fox releases from the 2010s decade wherever you can find them, because I don't see many more happening any time soon, given the already very long queue at Disney for their "non Fox catalogue".

Roger made no secret that we're trying to do POTC 1. I'm using all the influence possible and would sell my family to make it happen. lol  But I mean, it could happen soon, or in 5 years, or never... 

Out of curiosity. Suppose they gave their yes to POTC tomorrow, how long would it take you to deliver a finished product? So I'm not talking about the idiotic approval process ordinary people couldn't care less about, I'm just very interested in how much work goes into it for you. How long would it take to make the score presentation meet your standards?

[Stéphane Humez 1,178]

4 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

Out of curiosity. Suppose they gave their yes to POTC tomorrow, how long would it take you to deliver a finished product? So I'm not talking about the idiotic approval process ordinary people couldn't care less about, I'm just very interested in how much work goes into it for you. How long would it take to make the score presentation meet your standards?

For that one, not so long actually. For the simple reason that I started about 2 years ago already ! lol

That's the beauty of it, I don't have to wait for a go to prepare. I try to be ready for the moment the go comes. A lot of that might be done for nothing but I don't mind.

Learning lessons from the past. On The Rock, when I "officially" started this album production venture, we had the go and THEN I had to wait for months for RCP to dig up the elements.

So now I do the opposite, I search for whatever I can find, so the moment a score is "okay-ed" a lot of the groundwork is already done. Especially for studios that I know getting access to their archives will be extremely difficult, or that their archives are notoriously bad anyway...

So Pirates after like a year and a half searching, with about 8 or 9 different sources (!), I do have all we need for a great release. That side of the work will go fast. But as you say, it's the packaging approvals that would last forever... 

[CatastrophicJones 157]

2 hours ago, Stéphane Humez said:

For that one, not so long actually. For the simple reason that I started about 2 years ago already ! lol

That's the beauty of it, I don't have to wait for a go to prepare. I try to be ready for the moment the go comes. A lot of that might be done for nothing but I don't mind.

Learning lessons from the past. On The Rock, when I "officially" started this album production venture, we had the go and THEN I had to wait for months for RCP to dig up the elements.

So now I do the opposite, I search for whatever I can find, so the moment a score is "okay-ed" a lot of the groundwork is already done. Especially for studios that I know getting access to their archives will be extremely difficult, or that their archives are notoriously bad anyway...

So Pirates after like a year and a half searching, with about 8 or 9 different sources (!), I do have all we need for a great release. That side of the work will go fast. But as you say, it's the packaging approvals that would last forever... 

 

This is why I always appreciate when your name is attached to these releases, you do them with great care and thoroughness. You're doing what I would do if I were in your position. Hell I'd help for free to produce these if that's what it took to get the releases out there for people. Doing everything and just waiting on approvals, eventually somewhere down the line everything will get approved, one day, maybe if it takes 50 years... but one day, it has to happen. 

 

Jealous of everyone 500 years from now with easy instant access to all these releases while we have to wait it out and hope 😭😂

[Edmilson 12,263]

The evolved species of the future (a mixture of humans and advanced AI to create the Ultimate Human Being, the only species capable of surviving global warming and nuclear fallout) will be very happy to experience the premiere release of the 20 CD John Williams Star Wars Collection, produced by Mike Mattessino (a talented cyborg, named after a famous distant ancestor).

 

My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-children will love listening to it while driving their flying cars to work in their offices in the Moon!

[Richard P 5,263]

11 hours ago, Stéphane Humez said:

So now I do the opposite, I search for whatever I can find, so the moment a score is "okay-ed" a lot of the groundwork is already done. Especially for studios that I know getting access to their archives will be extremely difficult, or that their archives are notoriously bad anyway...

 

Very interesting - so there are no issues at all (legal or otherwise) with asking for elements to be found, and doing whatever is needed audio-wise? It's really just the formal part of actually making the release that needs all the approvals? Good to hear Zimmers are firmly in the pipeline.

 

With King Arthur having been mentioned, I was reminded of a film rip I heard on YT weeks ago, and I looked up the scene in the film. It's a scene where a woman sings 'We Will Go Home', and there is a nice string/vocal cue that comes in on top, but with the actress' vocals still there - beyond beautiful. I would assume that in cases like that, a release would only contain the parts by the composers, and not the on-set vocals? It's not on the sessions as far as I can see.

 

I did an AI rip yesterday as I liked it so much - in all honesty it's almost certainly going to push me to purchase the DVD for a whole £1 to do it properly.

[Mr. Hooper 8,703]

8 hours ago, Edmilson said:

The evolved species of the future (a mixture of humans and advanced AI to create the Ultimate Human Being, the only species capable of surviving global warming and nuclear fallout) will be very happy to experience the premiere release of the 20 CD John Williams Star Wars Collection, produced by Mike Mattessino (a talented cyborg, named after a famous distant ancestor).

 

My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-children will love listening to it while driving their flying cars to work in their offices in the Moon!

I hate when you get our hopes up like this. 

[Richard P 5,263]

14 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Narnia 1 not only would have to deal with a theoretical opposition by him but also the AFM bullshit.

 

I'm surprised Narnia 1 was US-recorded! Feels a very British production. At least we have the sessions for that, and the same goes for most of HGW's stuff. I've got all I would need from that and KoH.

 

Although if the AFM turned around and said they will allow one single score out without fees, there can be only one: Spidey 3. It's almost comedic levels of stupidity that not a single second of music from that score is publicly released.

[Quppa 550]

I appreciate @Stéphane Humez giving us a peek behind the curtain. It's frustrating enough as a fan waiting for some releases but it must be even worse as a producer knowing the elements are sitting there ready to go but for the sclerotic studios.

[Stéphane Humez 1,178]

44 minutes ago, Richard P said:

 

Very interesting - so there are no issues at all (legal or otherwise) with asking for elements to be found, and doing whatever is needed audio-wise? It's really just the formal part of actually making the release that needs all the approvals? Good to hear Zimmers are firmly in the pipeline.

 

With King Arthur having been mentioned, I was reminded of a film rip I heard on YT weeks ago, and I looked up the scene in the film. It's a scene where a woman sings 'We Will Go Home', and there is a nice string/vocal cue that comes in on top, but with the actress' vocals still there - beyond beautiful. I would assume that in cases like that, a release would only contain the parts by the composers, and not the on-set vocals? It's not on the sessions as far as I can see.

 

I did an AI rip yesterday as I liked it so much - in all honesty it's almost certainly going to push me to purchase the DVD for a whole £1 to do it properly.

The studios sure won't send anything unless there's an approval to do the album, but on a few occasions they are able to at least send a listing of what they have archived. You can never be sure what's actually on the tapes or in what shape they are, but that helps to know what they do or do not have.

It's funny you mention the Song of the Exile from King Arthur. I did inquire about it, got in touch with Caitlin Matthews to find out what the story was, if any recording existed (I wasn't sure if the actress was the actual singer or if it was some sort of post prod playback). Her husband worked on the film as a historian/consultant, and one day they had to shoot the scene the next day and needed a song, which they didn't have. He said his wife could write something fast on the spot. So Caitlin did write it overnight, lyrics over a traditional tune. She recorded a very rough demo on tape to be delivered to the actress Dawn Bradfield the next day, who only had like an hour or so to learn it. So the only recording of it is actually the film dialog (and apparently she didn't sing it very well, few mistakes here & there haha). Which is probably impossible to release like that (there's not even a performer credit existing for the actress)...

So Caitlin would love to properly rerecord it, even a cappella. But the song belonging to Disney didn't help.

The irony is I did find in RCP's archive the "King Arthur version" of Lisa Gerrard & Patrick Cassidy's "Amergin's Invocation" used during that scene, including a whole unused chunk, all of that arranged by Trevor Morris I think. Licensing it would probably be a challenge, but I know Lisa so....

 

8 minutes ago, Quppa said:

It's frustrating enough as a fan waiting for some releases but it must be even worse as a produce

It is incredibly frustrating.

You have no idea how many emails are sent with like... no answers... 

[Quppa 550]

1 hour ago, Stéphane Humez said:

You have no idea how many emails are sent with like... no answers... 

 

We all appreciate you and Roger and all the other specialty label staff and producers for persisting!

[Laserschwert 676]

14 hours ago, Stéphane Humez said:

For that one, not so long actually. For the simple reason that I started about 2 years ago already ! lol

That's the beauty of it, I don't have to wait for a go to prepare. I try to be ready for the moment the go comes. A lot of that might be done for nothing but I don't mind.

Learning lessons from the past. On The Rock, when I "officially" started this album production venture, we had the go and THEN I had to wait for months for RCP to dig up the elements.

So now I do the opposite, I search for whatever I can find, so the moment a score is "okay-ed" a lot of the groundwork is already done. Especially for studios that I know getting access to their archives will be extremely difficult, or that their archives are notoriously bad anyway...

So Pirates after like a year and a half searching, with about 8 or 9 different sources (!), I do have all we need for a great release. That side of the work will go fast. But as you say, it's the packaging approvals that would last forever... 

Okay, so just to get this straight, you are working without payment, just to be prepared in case a release might happen? I mean, it IS actual work that you would normally get paid for, right? Sounds to me like you are basically doing a fan project for the time being (which is so cool!).

[Tallguy 7,291]

See? This PROVES that The Ultimate Star Wars is done and ready to go!  

 

(Thank you very much, @Stéphane Humez, this is terrific.)

[Stéphane Humez 1,178]

17 minutes ago, Laserschwert said:

Okay, so just to get this straight, you are working without payment, just to be prepared in case a release might happen? I mean, it IS actual work that you would normally get paid for, right? Sounds to me like you are basically doing a fan project for the time being (which is so cool!).

It's the risk indeed ! One I'm willing to make. Nothing before the release actually happens. But I rather do it this way than having a go and then crunch on something unprepared with a result I'd be disappointed with.

 

[Richard P 5,263]

3 hours ago, Stéphane Humez said:

So the only recording of it is actually the film dialog (and apparently she didn't sing it very well, few mistakes here & there haha). Which is probably impossible to release like that (there's not even a performer credit existing for the actress)...

 

It's the sort of thing that studios often like to put on the OST album (due to 'cast performances' being something that 'normal' people like, apparently  ) but it's not really a speciality-oriented thing, I suppose. I could just as easily have preferred solely the score element - I merely watched it a few times and the live vocals really felt they worked well. There's a similar one in JNH's Snow White score where I prefer the score part by itself.

 

But that's where I feel that fan editorials come in - we suspect there are some things that would never make it onto an official expansion, either because they're edits, or they're a unique mix of source/score of some sort, and we can look to add them onto an official expansion when it comes. I decided to make an instrumental of Now We Are Free, more out of a curiosity of how it sounded without the vocals - I thought it made a nice fourth version.

[CinderTech 1,790]

1 hour ago, CinderTech said:

There's a good chance I regret all of these, but being the sale whore I am.....

 

 

Also, this is probably the last of the certificate points I essentially have left, since there's basically $4 remaining.

[Smeltington 1,970]

On 13/04/2026 at 8:59 AM, Richard P said:

'normal' people

 

*shudder*

[Yavar Moradi 4,368]

Nice haul, @Amer!

 

Let us know what you think after listening to any?

Yavar

[Amer 2,722]

12 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:

Nice haul, @Amer!

 

Let us know what you think after listening to any?

Yavar

Oops. This was supposed to be in the other thread..

[CinderTech 1,790]

On 22/04/2026 at 12:08 PM, CinderTech said:

There's a good chance I regret all of these, but being the sale whore I am.....

 

 

 

In seemingly a first for anything received from Intrada: Inchon has a slight crack on the back. Given the padding this time was just more bubble wrap, I'm not quite sure what caused it here.

 

[Dr. Rick 1,376]

Wouldn't it be something if the 5 JW titles are the 5 IJ scores celebrating the 45th anniversary?  Raiders release date was June 12th 1981.  All 5 scores "future proofed" by MM?  I know, I know, probably never gonna happen but a guy can dream.

 

My reaction if this is indeed the case... 

 

*Followed up next year with SW 50th anniversary scores* 

 

 

[Richard P 5,263]

I wonder how much persuasion it would take for JW to agree to release the full score to DoD only 3 years after release.

[1977 2,106]

More than a month has passed since Intrada's last release. I wonder if we'll get an announcement this week.

[Mr. Hooper 8,703]

1 hour ago, Richard P said:

I wonder how much persuasion it would take for JW to agree to release the full score to DoD only 3 years after release.

When you reach 90, 3 years is like 20, so there may be a chance.
 

[Tallguy 7,291]

33 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

When you reach 90, 3 years is like 20, so there may be a chance.
 

 

Funny, at 57 three years is like a couple of minutes ago. The Phantom Menace is closer to Star Wars than to Now.

[Edmilson 12,263]

17 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

The Phantom Menace is closer to Star Wars than to Now.

 

[Amer 2,722]

12 hours ago, 1977 said:

More than a month has passed since Intrada's last release. I wonder if we'll get an announcement this week.

The annoucement usually comes via a video by Joe Sikoryak on youtube. Something soon will likely be coming.

 

 

 

[Naïve Old Fart 12,928]

To me, 1980 feels like yesterday, while 24hrs. is like 3 weeks.

[CatastrophicJones 157]

14 hours ago, Dr. Rick said:

Wouldn't it be something if the 5 JW titles are the 5 IJ scores celebrating the 45th anniversary?  Raiders release date was June 12th 1981.  All 5 scores "future proofed" by MM?  I know, I know, probably never gonna happen but a guy can dream.

 

My reaction if this is indeed the case... 

 

*Followed up next year with SW 50th anniversary scores* 

 

 

 

I fully believe they will happen eventually. Maybe he already worked on them and is just waiting for the stars to align for a release. We will get those scores one day. How soon? Could be years, or decades, but they will see the light of day. I fully believe we will finally get them within the next decade. A little too optimistic and hopeful? Maybe, but we're definitely closer now than before.

[Amer 2,722]

44 minutes ago, CatastrophicJones said:

 

I fully believe they will happen eventually. Maybe he already worked on them and is just waiting for the stars to align for a release. We will get those scores one day. How soon? Could be years, or decades, but they will see the light of day. I fully believe we will finally get them within the next decade. A little too optimistic and hopeful? Maybe, but we're definitely closer now than before.

 

A bit optimistic but 2027 is the big 50th! Lets hope MAY 4th next year may be a day to remember.

[Tallguy 7,291]

4 hours ago, Amer said:

 

A bit optimistic but 2027 is the big 50th! Lets hope MAY 4th next year may be a day to remember.

 

Maybe it will be announced on May 4th for an actual release on May 25th?

[Mr. Hooper 8,703]

If it isn't released next year, I'll officially give up hoping... I'm not masochistic.

[Tallguy 7,291]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

If it isn't released next year, I'll officially give up hoping... I'm not masochistic.

 

Rebellions are built on... Oh, wait THAT one they released!

[Rachael Foley 10,043]

3 hours ago, Tallguy said:

 

Maybe it will be announced on May 4th ...?

I am betting on February, for JW's Bday

[Laserschwert 676]

4 hours ago, Tallguy said:

 

Rebellions are built on... Oh, wait THAT one they released!

Not on CD!!

[Yavar Moradi 4,368]

2 hours ago, Laserschwert said:

Not on CD!!

 

Somehow I read that in Palpatine's "Not from a Jedi" voice. 

 

Yavar

[Amer 2,722]

Hmm any idea if they will announce a new title this week?

[Slitherjump 154]

2 hours ago, Amer said:

Hmm any idea if they will announce a new title this week?

We do now with Gil Mellé’s Frankenstein the True Story coming May 26

 

[Jay 45,891]

One of the composers on Roger's list

[Amer 2,722]

I asked a question and got an answere.

Wow !!  what a title.

 

 

[1977 2,106]

On 02/04/2026 at 8:51 PM, 1977 said:

Ron Jones, Gil Melle, Stu Phillips, John Williams, Dimitri Tiomkin, Jerry Goldsmith, Bill Conti, Danny Elfman, John Debney, Jerry Goldsmith, Stu Philips, John Williams, John Williams, Elmer Bernstein, John DuPrez, John Williams, James Horner, Charles Fox, Charles Fox, John Williams, Ilan Eshkeri

 

At the rate they are releasing titles, it's likely a good chunk of the remaining ones will get pushed to next year unless they are able to get more approved (which I certainly hope for).

[Dr. Rick 1,376]

I just received an email from Intrada all Danger Zone titles are 25% off!  Couldn’t find a clean way to copy the email from my phone 😂 

[Quppa 550]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Rick said:

I just received an email from Intrada all Danger Zone titles are 25% off!  Couldn’t find a clean way to copy the email from my phone 😂 

 

Here's the list of titles: https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.16/category.66697/.f

[NewBlueEyes 226]