Neimoidian 14 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 ... and a very good score!Yes, those John Barry strings give it something classy and melancholic at the same time. I also noticed that the film isn't overscored. A lot of scenes don't have music at all.AlexBut whenever there is music, it captures the scene perfectly (for example when Corrine is hunted by the dogs - Barry's dramatic writing at its best). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Lion in Winter: The new version with Glenn Close and Patrick Stewart which is in my mind just as good as the old one. Wonderful perfomances and a stellar script that has so many elements in it, that this film reveals still new nuances with each viewing. The dialogue is sharp, not a wasted word, the actors' perfomances superb and the constant subtle inner turmoil and intrigue mesmerizing. It is such fantastically orchestrated story arc, it is pure joy to watch it reach the finale which leaves a palpable sense of catharsis. Somehow everything begins on the surface and the film peels off layers and layers of different meanings and appearances and in the end there is only the king and queen and their relationship, pure and simple, without anything else, no trappings of power, no intrigue, no contest of wills. Just the main protagonists alone. If only more scripts of this caliber were written these days as it shows astounding understanding of human nature from so many facets of our being, living and loving.North By Northwest: First time I saw this film and enjoyed it immensely. A classic of its kind, this is a somewhat light hearted but intriguing suspence film. Cary Grant as the first baffled then determined lead is just brilliant and the witty dialogue just enhances the image as he engages in clever banter with Eva Marie Saint. They don't make films like this anymore. Hitchcock's trademark visual style time and again warms my heart and especially the scene just before the crop duster chase with that static and quiet atmosphere is simply ingenious. The sense of danger and threat comes exactly from those ingredients. For a Hitchcock film this had for me a surprisingly light and humorous edge which I enjoyed as a change of tone from all the other films of his I have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I haven't seen the new version...but I can't imagine a situation in which Patrick Stewart and Glenn Close come anywhere near O'Toole and Hepburn. I like Stewart, but he's no O'Toole. I don't like Close, and she is most certainly no Hepburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 The new one is a TV movie from 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Saw UP, and Doubt this weekend two very interesting filmsI have no idea how UP could have cost 175 millions dollars to make. I cannot believe it cost that much. Its just a cartoon, a great movie, but its a cartoon, where does that kind of cash go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I have no idea how UP could have cost 175 millions dollars to make. I cannot believe it cost that much. Its just a cartoon, a great movie, but its a cartoon, where does that kind of cash go.CGI is expensive. An insane amount of man-hours and a buttload of very expensive hardware and software goes into making "just a [CG] cartoon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Up also has a 3D version. I'm no genius, but I'm guessing it takes a lot more work to create a movie into 2D and 3D instead of just 2D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 ... and a very good score!Yes, those John Barry strings give it something classy and melancholic at the same time. I also noticed that the film isn't overscored. A lot of scenes don't have music at all.AlexBut whenever there is music, it captures the scene perfectly (for example when Corrine is hunted by the dogs - Barry's dramatic writing at its best).Proof that this film isn't just kiddie bubblegum fare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Saw UP, and Doubt this weekend two very interesting filmsDoubt, the one with Streep and P.S Hoffman? I watched that recently too, I thought it was awesome. Acting powerhouse the likes of which you seldom see. The ending is completely open to interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Up also has a 3D version. I'm no genius, but I'm guessing it takes a lot more work to create a movie into 2D and 3D instead of just 2D.Actually not really, provided the movie is 3D animation, as opposed to 2D. It just takes twice as long to render since you're rendering once for each eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 QuestionMarkMan is correct - CGI is already 3D, as far as the computer is concerned. It's just a matter of rendering two slightly different animations of the same scenes. That doubles the rendering time, but the human workload is barely any different. The filmmakers just have to be careful not to "cheat" in ways that'd look fine in 2D showings but obviously flat in 3D showings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,176 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Still, it takes twice as much resources, meaning that rendering it in 2D *and* 3D triples the resource load. That affects either time to market or hardware cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Wim Wenders' Wings of Desire (1988). An interesting mixture of banal and transcendant. Most of it is the latter- stunning, heartfelt and spiritual. Towards the end, however, it loses almost all of the momentoum it built up, and becomes an incredibly boring series of vague existentialism I couldn't connect with at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 The GameLove it every time I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I just lost the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 He got game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Share Posted July 8, 2009 Raiders of the Lost ArkStill fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Song of the South. I fail to see anything overtly racist. Historical and of it's time maybe, but racist? Hardly. If anything it's the opposite, showcasing a friendship between a black and white child, and having Uncle Remus as the "hero" of the story. Overall a very entertaining film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Does it have fried chicken and watermelon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Mission: Impossible (1996). Still like it. Still don't get exactly the deal with Ethan figuring out Phelps was a bad guy. Still think the score is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Still don't get exactly the deal with Ethan figuring out Phelps was a bad guy.It was in the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Transformers 2: I had no choice, the boy wanted to see it. The film wasn't as bas as I thought it would be. Mind you, I really was expecting the worst film ever made. It was only during the last 30 minutes that the movie sort of lost my attention. Michael Bay has no notion of how to direct action scenes. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Michael Bay has no notion of how to direct action scenes.Yes he does, that's the only thing he's good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I'm afraid he stinks at it. Bay's action scenes have no (visual) narrative, not to mention a complete lack of drama. That's why I fall asleep with each Michael Bay movie. I'll bet you thought the last thirty minutes were really yummy, hey Koray? Well, some really well told action scenes and that come to my mind right now are 'the war in the village' scene of Saving Private Ryan and the 'New Goblin vs. Spiderman' scene of Spider-Man 3. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I am almost never dissatisfied with John Williams' album choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Michael Bay's action scenes lack geography, coherence, substance, and like Alex says, narrative. They usually come across like music videos.Looking back now, I think THE ROCK was just a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 the man should nothing more than an explosives coordinator or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I am almost never dissatisfied with John Williams' album choices. They're not always amazing, and the later ones tend to miss out some relatively great bits, but I don't get the furore there usually is over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Nick and Norah's Infinite PlaylistPretty good, but definitely not great. It wasn't as good as I was expecting it to be, which could just be more of a misplaced expectations thing than a quality of product thing. The stuff with the traveling gum was grossssssss! The lead actress was very attractive, I'd like to see more movies she's inPublic Enemies Good. Not great, but good. Johnny Depp and Christian Bale were great, as were a bunch of other people. The setting was awesome, it was cool to see what life during the great depression was like. I liked the gun fights and car chases, though sometimes I was confused as to which characters where which ( I thought Dillinger was the one gunned down in the woods at first, for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ( I thought Dillinger was the one gunned down in the woods at first, for example).Dude same here! Glad I'm not the only one who couldn't follow that fight/chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Looking back now, I think THE ROCK was just a fluke.Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Mission: Impossible (1996). Still like it. Still don't get exactly the deal with Ethan figuring out Phelps was a bad guy. Still think the score is great.Hey, I watched that last night. Personally, I think it is one of Brian DePalma's best films. What did you not get about Ethan discovering that Phelps was the mole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,176 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Looking back now, I think THE ROCK was just a fluke.Probably.How so? It was just as bad as the rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Michael Bay's films from best to worst:The RockThe IslandBad BoysTransformersBad Boys IIPearl HarborArmageddonTransformers: Revenge Of The Fallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Looking back now, I think THE ROCK was just a fluke.Probably.No, it's bad.Sean Connery and Ed Harris give it some class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Mission: Impossible (1996). Still like it. Still don't get exactly the deal with Ethan figuring out Phelps was a bad guy. Still think the score is great.Hey, I watched that last night. Personally, I think it is one of Brian DePalma's best films. What did you not get about Ethan discovering that Phelps was the mole? Phelps' reappearance is clunky. I mean- so what if the bible was from the Drake Hotel in Chicago? Ethan figures out that because he carried a bible from Chicago to Prague he MUST be Job? Also, the scene where Phelps is saying it was Kitteridge and Cruise is imagining it was Phelps is completely undercut by the fact that the expression on Voight's face is so inappropriately villainous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 If you want to see Voight being inappropriately villainous watch Anaconda!"It'll squeeze you so hard your veins esplode." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Looking back now, I think THE ROCK was just a fluke.Probably.How so? It was just as bad as the rest...I think it's the best movie he's made, the only decent one. Not great, but passable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Looking back now, I think THE ROCK was just a fluke.Probably.How so? It was just as bad as the rest...I think it's the best movie he's made, the only decent one. Not great, but passable.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Carlito's Way: In an interview on the DVD Brian De Palma says that he learned how to put story into a scene by watching the great directors. Then he says that so many of the new directors must have learned their trade by watching MTV or TV ads for they only show cut and paste work that doesn't make sense. Was he talking about Michael Bay? Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Maybe he should watch the great directors a little more closely, cause he sure isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 But he knows how to put story into a scene. Watch the pool bar scene to know what I'm talking about. De Palma's weaknesses lie somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Wow Koray, your case is getting stronger with every rebuttal. Speaking of Michael Bay, I was just reading a Pauline Kael collection, which included her review of Top Gun. She ends the review with the best assessment of the Scott/Bruckheimer/Bay sensibility I've read: "Top Gun is a recruiting poster that is not concerned with recruiting but with being a poster". Same goes for all of Michael Bay's films and just about all of Tony Scott (though he is better at it, and is proud of creating his 'posters'). Just saw The Hurt Locker on DVD. I don't know how it's already out here on DVD (A legit Italian import), when it's just opening in theaters in the US now. Very good movie. Reminded me a lot of Generation Kill, but more focused. Jeremy Renner, so good in Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, has a great part here as the staff-sergant of a bomb-squad, and he makes the most of it. He's charismatic as hell here. Anthony Mackie is terriffic as one of his squad-mates, Brian Geraghty's good, too. Director Kathryn Bigelow places well known faces (Guy Pierce, David Morse, Evangeline Lilly, Ralph Fiennes) around in unexpected places, to interesting effect. I think it's probably the first Iraq movie that has a chance to make a dent with the public. It's relatablde, involving, and not forcefully political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Say what you will about Brian DePalma's directorial shortcomings, I think he has a wonderful sense of music in his films. He probably got it from working with Bernard Herrmann in Sisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Chisum (1970) with John Wayne. Decent western. I liked the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,317 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Bedtime StoriesNot my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 But he knows how to put story into a scene. Watch the pool bar scene to know what I'm talking about. De Palma's weaknesses lie somewhere else.DePalma also knows how to do setpieces unlike almost any other director alive today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Batman the original one with Keaton of course. It's always fun to watch that movie and still remains my absolute favorite Batman film. It's one I am going to buy on Blu-Ray. I never cared for the other Batman films except Batman: Begins and The Dark Knight which I really liked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,176 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 But he knows how to put story into a scene. Watch the pool bar scene to know what I'm talking about. De Palma's weaknesses lie somewhere else.DePalma also knows how to do setpieces unlike almost any other director alive today.When De Palma is good, he's great. When he gets a flawless script (could happen more often, but it did at times - even Koepp managed one with Carlito), he's awesome. And if he fails, there usually still are at least a few parts to admire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 DePalma may have flaws and idiosyncracies, but he has more flair and character than most mainstream directors. Plus, anyone who uses split screen that well (see CARRIE) can never be bad in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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