A24 4,331 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 See I've noticed how you hide your personal attacks toward others behind their taste in movies, compared to your own 'enlightened' critique. You specialise in remarks of the back-handed variety. I on the otherhand prefer to cut to the chase and spit it out, be direct with people... and you don't like that. When you say Seven Pounds is a very good movie I literally answered with a "" . How "backhanded" is that? How 'enlightened' is that? You don't cut to the chase, Quint. You have actually nothing to say. All you have is your hatred towards me. It's your only contribution to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 He loathes you, yet he can't stay away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 You want Alex to be gay, you want it, you need it.True, to him it means he's superior to me. That's why the word "homosexual" keeps popping up whenever he's angry.He loathes you, yet he can't stay away!He loaths what he can't understand.There's nothing to gain by shouting your hatred for someone or something.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I just want to say, Stefan is the best argument moderator, always making sure the argument goes down the most appropriate and logical path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I agree. Stefancos for moderator! Maybe he can get me a crazy smiley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 What Is The Last Film You Watched?Watched Avatar last night in the cinema. Spectacular. Loved it. I knew nothing about the movie before going,other than one or two shots of blue people in the web. Cameron's common themes run through it, such as mistrust of large corporations and lots of insensitive close minded knuckle head troops with catastrophic weapons doing their bidding. In a way, Avatar is probably the fruition of the concepts he developed the most in The Abyss. Good movie. And, Horner's danger motif re-appearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 So it's Aliens again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 The Abyss is a 2001: A Space Odyssey tale told from the same working-class perspective as seen in Scott's Alien (Cameron wrote and made Aliens because he was impressed with Scott's Alien.). Like in 2001, the machines are tools. However, the tools don't rebel. Man rebels against man. The machine leads to the next step. What's the point? Cameron was just making a movie while sprinkling it with the odor of his favorite films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Isn't that what almost every director does Alex?You don't actually watch a James Cameron film for the story. You watch it to see what can be done, and what everyone else will be doing for the next 5 years, in the field of special effects, sound effects visuals etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Isn't that what almost every director does Alex?You don't actually watch a James Cameron film for the story. You watch it to see what can be done, and what everyone else will be doing for the next 5 years, in the field of special effects, sound effects visuals etc...In The Abyss I felt the ingredients were a little too obvious and perhaps that's why they didn't lead to a new 2001, Alien or CE3K. It was a weak carbon copy of old ideas.True, they (Cameron"s films) are always innovating on a technical level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 But story wise he's merely doing his version of what came before, or what he himself has done previously.In a way it's understandable, He makes the most expensive films ever, no ones gonna finance it if they think it has to radical a story.It's funny to note though that a distrust for large corporations runs though his films, yet they are financed by....large corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I read that Avatar is a potpourri of all his previous films. I already could extract Aliens from the trailer. Is there also a Titanic aspect to the film? Does he get to stand on the nose of a spaceship with the blue chick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Yes, Sam Worthington paints Stephen Lang in the nude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Sigourney Weaver in the film (didn't know she was in it, till it began) was also a bit of a nod to her Dian Fossey role in Gorillas in the Mist, I'd say.It's funny to note though that a distrust for large corporations runs though his films, yet they are financed by....large corporations. I'd say his mistrust is more about corporations and military working hand in hand. All the nods to "Shock and Awe" and other things, said a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 It's funny to note though that a distrust for large corporations runs though his films, yet they are financed by....large corporations. Many large corporations don't really mind what's said about them as long as they get theirs in the end. And if Cameron's films are anything, they are profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 True, to him it means he's superior to me. That's why the word "homosexual" keeps popping up whenever he's angry.So now I'm angry at you am I? I need to feel superior to you do I? I yearn to understand you but that pursuit is a vain one, therefore I must lash out in frustration, right? Ha ha, stick to reviewing movies Alex, because reading people clearly ain't your thing. The truth is far more simple and straightforward: like steef says, I'm deeply and madly in love with you.It just wounds my heart that you could never give someone like me a chance. Someone who enjoys mainstream movies, someone who you consider to be part of the flock. Remember that little back-handed remark you made? That hurt man *sniffle*.Jesus H, chill the fuck out, it's Christmas the day after tomorrow! Believe it or not, I don't "hate" you at all and I honestly wish you a very Merry Christmas.But I will be straight back to winding you up in the New Year, so have a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 James Cameron's next film announced, Alextar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Jesus H, chill the fuck out, it's Christmas the day after tomorrow! Now I am the bad guy?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 You're the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Question: I've just rented Aliens, going to see it for the first time. Which edition should I watch: Theatrical or Special edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Question: I've just rented Aliens, going to see it for the first time. Which edition should I watch: Theatrical or Special edition?Theatrical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I have not seen both in a long time, but I would recommend the Theatrical Edition. The added footage in the Special Edition is nice, but not really necessary to the film, ultimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Both are fina actually.The SE has a few nice extra character bits that I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Yeah, they're not dramatically different, but for me the new footage disrupts some of the tension, so I think it's a better viewing after you see the theatrical edition. It's like a nice treat, and it allows you to think of your own conclusions for the questions asked, before answering them for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Theatrical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Theatrical it shall be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 You chose, Wisely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 The Patrick Stewart Christmas Carol is on right now. It's actually become one of my favorite adaptations, I love his performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 The Patrick Stewart Christmas Carol is on right now. It's actually become one of my favorite adaptations, I love his performance.It's been a while since I've seen that one, but it seems to me that they kind of killed the magic by fleshing out every sequence from the story. Did we really need to see Scrooge go to hell? I'm sure Patrick Stewart did a good job with it, though.Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. What can you say about a film based on the sole premise of resurrecting a character to make audiences happy and thus sell tickets? Given such a premise, The Search for Spock is damned good. There are some great character moments, and the film makes its stupid plot seem pretty legit by killing off David and by cleverly repurposing the parting words from Wrath of Khan. Nice scene chewing by Christopher Lloyd. Surprisingly little music, but what's there is excellent. Looking forward to The Voyage Home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 An emotional moment in slow motion is over the top.What about Deckard killing Zorah in "Blade Runner", or, indeed, Robert Wagner getting fried in "The Towering Inferno", of any "action" sequence in "The Fury"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 An emotional moment in slow motion is over the top.What about Deckard killing Zorah in "Blade Runner", or, indeed, Robert Wagner getting fried in "The Towering Inferno", of any "action" sequence in "The Fury"?Blade Runner: Aha, but here the slow-motion changes a killing of a murderous android into an emotional event. The Towering Inferno: The Towering Inferno? Outside the music of John Williams, is this movie relevant?The Fury: The slow motion changes an action scene into a surreal, dreamlike ballet, much in the same vain of what Zack Snyder does.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Yes, if by "Dreamlike ballett" you mean "Look at me! Isn't this COOL?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Not only is it cool, it's beautiful and mesmerizing. In fact, it's the only thing I remember from The Fury. Like I said, a dreamlike ballet ... where motion, choreography, form and music become a dance.So, how was Aliens, Morlock?Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS this morning. Still brilliant and the songs are so eminently singalongable.Watching TEMPLE OF DOOM now, just at the village. The opening is still absolutely amazing, logic be damned. This is what action movies should aspire to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS this morning. Still brilliant and the songs are so eminently singalongable.I tried to get into this on telly the other day, but just couldn't. Can't put my finger on it, the movie just didn't gel with me, the dark designs were maybe a bit too ugly for me, which I guess is kind of the whole point, but I just didn't like the look of the thing. Live action, like Beetlejuice might have worked better, for me. The songs were quite good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I'm still deciding whether to get it on Blu. It's only $15, but I really don't see myself watching it so often in the long run. The only copy I own is on VHS, but I've seen the movie like 100 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Where The Wild Things Are. I'm not quite sure how to put it, but I was both quite taken with the beauty of the film and left feeling a bit empty. It's got some absolutely amazing stuff, and it feels right, but I think that the expansion made the final scene a bit sentimental and simple. Loved the creatures, and the great voice-work. This is probably my favorite Gandolfini screen performance. And how can you not love Catherine O'Hara? Karen O's work did get annoying at times, but Burwell's was great. Morlock- about to make some chicken schnitzel sandwiches and watch Aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Not only is it cool, it's beautiful and mesmerizing. In fact, it's the only thing I remember from The Fury. Like I said, a dreamlike ballet ... where motion, choreography, form and music become a dance. I was talking about Snyder. DePalma's visual excesses feel motivated and effectivly done (And, unlike Snyder, he actually had a great score in his film). Aliens (1986). I don't mean to piss anyone off when I say I didn't think it was that great. But it was not that great. It was good, sure. First hour an a half are engaging. Weaver is terrific, Raiser is very good. But I was kind of underwhelmed. Nothing bad about it (except for Paxton), but nothing amazing. But at the 90 minute mark, when they go back for Newt, I actually said to myself "This movie just got good". Even that wasn't as rip-roaring an actioneer as I was led to expect, but it was pretty damn kick-ass, the mother vs. mother element was great (although the finale was made a little absurd by Bishop's torso and head being dragged around). I must say, the movie's look was dissapointing. First of all, the image on the collector's edition DVD I rented was really grainy. And the sets were there, and used well...but there wasn't half of the mood that Scott's interiors had. There was no cumulative power to these sets (until the climax, at least). It was one thing after another, each one fine, but no deep connective tissue of dread that seeped in from the images. And the film missed a couple of opportunities for money-shots. The revalation of the eggs was a missed opportunity, although the revelation of the Queen made up for it. I was surprised how little music that scene had- it's great for Ripley's descent and search for Newt, the quiet. But part of the reason that the revelation of the eggs was udnerwhelming was the lack of music. I rarely complain about a film being under-scored, but I think the scene would have been better if the music kicked in earlier. I barely felt the score for the first 90 minutes, not even my favorite cues. It is pretty great in the finale, but aside from 'Bishop's Countdown', not quite as iconic as it sounds on the album (It isn't mixed particularly loudly for much of the film). Overall, I enjoyed it, but was dissapointed by how little this film affected me viscerally. My adrenaline got pumped for the finale, but most of it was just kind of there. I would love to see this on a big screen (I really felt like it didn't translate to the small screen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Not only is it cool, it's beautiful and mesmerizing. In fact, it's the only thing I remember from The Fury. Like I said, a dreamlike ballet ... where motion, choreography, form and music become a dance. I was talking about Snyder. I was secretly talking about Snyder too. Let me put it this way, I thought about him when I wrote about The Fury. No great score, you say? Where most go for dramatic action music, Snyder contrasts with a crooner song. I love it! I must say, the movie's look was dissapointing. First of all, the image on the collector's edition DVD I rented was really grainy. And the sets were there, and used well...but there wasn't half of the mood that Scott's interiors had. There was no cumulative power to these sets. For once, I agree. Although many fans will argue that Cameron's focus was on the story (except for the SE versions of his films, Cameron's storytelling has a great drive) and not on the sets or the look. Personally, I don't think Cameron can arrange a scenery the way Scott does. After all, this is what Scott excels at. He was a set designer before he became a movie director. And in his first three films, the design (which ultimately is an integrated part of 'the image') was the statement. And I believe that this is the reason why Scott's films had and still have such an impact on other artists of all kinds.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Where most go for dramatic action music, Snyder contrasts with a crooner song. I love it!AlexWhich film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Well, it's not 300. Lust, Caution: One side of me said this was a good movie, the other side felt it could've been somewhat more engaging. The photography disappointed me. The dark scenes looked a bit like ordinary video (the DVD has a good transfer though). I was always waiting for a daytime scene. The acting was flawless. I thought the leading female was some kind of a Chinese movie star but it's actually her first role. So again, good movie but something was lacking.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 It was an Ang Lee film, that should have told you it was nothing extraordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Idiot!you like Ang Lee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Sense & Sensibility was rather charming. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was excellent, Hulk was a flawed yet fascinating way to make a superhero movie.Didn't see Brokeback, because I'm straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 But... Brokeback Mountain is a straight version of gay romance. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 I don't like westerns, anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Brokeback Mountain was the fakest gay movie ever. Hulk was a piece of shit. It was a complete artistic failure.Thank God John passed on that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 What is a true gay movie then? Spartacus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Sense & Sensibility was rather charming. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was excellent, Hulk was a flawed yet fascinating way to make a superhero movie.Didn't see Brokeback, because I'm straight!My favorite Ang Lee's are Sense & Sensibility, HULK and Ice Storm. Brokeback Mountain felt like a good TV movie. Don't care for Tigers & Dragons.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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