Henry B 50 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yeah, I assumed it had something to do with the parentheses, but I still don't get it.I think it's because Spock doesn't really die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 But he does die! He just, you know, gets better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 154 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yeah, I assumed it had something to do with the parentheses, but I still don't get it.I think it's because Spock doesn't really die.I think if that were the case the cue would be called Spock "Dies," not Spock (Dies). Parenthese seem to note that whatever word is enclosed is an afterthought or somewhat irrelevant to the unparanthesized word, not that the enclosed word is untrue. Quotes are used to show that the enclosed word is what the film was saying, meaning that in terms of actual factuality it isn't quite true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,067 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I don't care who Horner ripped off for this score. It is perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 915 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'm resisting listening to the clips, I'm waiting until I get the CD.I can't help myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I've officially ordered. SAE has a good deal going with this release, 5 bucks off an order of $50 or more. I really wish I could take advantage of that, but I've got two big TV DVD sets coming out next Tuesday I want to make sure I can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,785 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well Track 7 on the new release is already called "Spock", so track 20 had to be different..... but why they called it "Spock (Dies)" instead of just "Spock Dies" or "Spock's Death", I have no idea. Just made me laugh to see "Spock (Dies)". It's odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 62 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Is the Star Trek II was the one in the rumour that the holy grail unlimited? Well, it's not a grail to me, besides, it's unlimited. I could wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,785 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 yes, this is their big unlimited july release they've been hyping for a few months--Hey, on my boot the order of tracks is:8 Kirk Takes Command9 Surprise Attack10 He Tasks Me11 Kirk's Explosive ReplyBut on the new FSM CD, the order of tracks is:8. Kirk Takes Command*/He Tasks Me 2:07 9. Genesis Project (Composed and Performed by Craig Huxley) 3:16 10. Surprise Attack 5:07 11. Kirk's Explosive Reply 4:01Does this mean the FSM CD is slightly out of film order in this one place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 No, your boot is wrong, the new release is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,785 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,246 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 But he does die! He just, you know, gets better."She turned me into a newt.""A newt?!?!""I got better." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Unbelievable. Incredible. There's no longer any reason to believe in a "no-win" scenario. Give FSM a commendation for original thinking.They had to go all the way back to the beginning of Horner's career to get it, but it's one of his true masterpieces. I'd pretty much given up hope of ever getting the whole thing. It's a great day for filmusic enthusiasts.- Uni . . . who can't wait to hear both Kirk's arrival on the Enterprise, and Spock's Death In Parenthases apart from the film. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 6 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Now if someone could just do WOLFEN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmanjerm 77 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 "Spock (Dies)" is one of the funniest track titles everSpock DIES in the movie? What's with these crazy cue titles giving away the plot??? First Qui-Gon then Dumbledore and now this! [/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 And Barbara's Confession from PRESUMED INNOCENT. Oops, I did it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana_Fett 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It was actually just yesterday that I read a pessimistic reply on Youtube that the music from Wrath of Khan would never be completely released. I hope that person is aware of this release! What a great score. It even has a precursor to some of the music from Aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,774 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Then they shoot him down onto the planet inside that giant sunglasses case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 154 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It was a hell of a thing when Spock died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,774 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yeah...*hangs head in reflection* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It was a hell of a thing when Spock died.Spock died????? OMG!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,774 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Harry Potter VI: The Search for Sirius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,971 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I must be the only person on the planet who's not particularly excited about this...I'm not. But then again, we're the '90s peeps! I might order just because I don't have many Horner scores and this is unlimited, so I can take my time.It is superb. If you're a fan of his works from the early 1980s (Krull, Something Wicked This Way Comes), then this is a must-have.I've been waiting for a better edition to come out in the past 2-3 years -- like a remastered edition or a re-recording. Luckily the former happened.Well you've just mentioned two Horner scores that I'm barely interested in at all.Heck, I really like Natty Gann and Shrunk. I'm not saying it's not a great/landmark score, just that when I first heard the OST, it didn't light my world on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 325 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It was a hell of a thing when Spock died.Indeed, it was a powerful scene, and then to follow a good speech by Kirk right afterwards.Rich,Just give the score a chance...even if you have to preview it by other methods. If you like it then get it, I am betting you will enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 485 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Funnily enough I was listening to the original album just before this one was announced. A premonition of some kind?KarolQuick, put on your Back to the Future OST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 710 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 And a dubious quote from Aintitcoolnews:Since the stratospheric success of J.J. Abrams’ STAR TREK (2009) earlier this year, cinemaphiles and scorehounds have resurrected the timeless question...What is the greatest Star Trek film score ever written? Conversations abound with valid arguments for STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE (1979) by Jerry Goldsmith, or STAR TREK VI: THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY (1991) by Cliff Eidelman, or perhaps the newest graduate of Starfleet Academy, Michael Giacchino’s STAR TREK. However, if you polled legions of Star Trek fans and soundtrack collectors alike, one should not be surprised if the strongest case was made for James Horner’s STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 The buck stops with James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,556 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Funnily enough I was listening to the original album just before this one was announced. A premonition of some kind?KarolQuick, put on your Back to the Future OST!Sadly, there is no real OST for this film. Which could mean it won't happen in this life... But then again Varese compiltion might work. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 6 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Funnily enough I was listening to the original album just before this one was announced. A premonition of some kind?KarolQuick, put on your Back to the Future OST!Sadly, there is no real OST for this film. Which could mean it won't happen in this life... But then again Varese compiltion might work. KarolOr the DeLorean Records leg-warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 448 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well you've just mentioned two Horner scores that I'm barely interested in at all.Heck, I really like Natty Gann and Shrunk. I'm not saying it's not a great/landmark score, just that when I first heard the OST, it didn't light my world on fire.Something Wicked This Way Comes has a beautiful theme for the kids, and the "End Credits" track is simply divine. And as for Krull, how can a serious Horner fan not like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 485 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Funnily enough I was listening to the original album just before this one was announced. A premonition of some kind?KarolQuick, put on your Back to the Future OST!Sadly, there is no real OST for this film. Yes, there is.Unfortunately, it only contains about two score tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,785 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 145 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 As for Trek II, I hope everyone enjoys it.NeilThat won't be a problem. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Pete is joking. I am not nor was I ever "Justin". I was "Weebo" when he came back to say he had the AOTC score in 2003. But that's it for the alter egos.NeilYou are Weebo? You owe me that A.I. 2 CD promo man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Will this still ever be used in another "Director's Cut" of KHAN. I've seen the picture used several times in the last number of year and it's such a beautiful image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,785 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Cool tidbits from LucasWe used mostly the analogue safety 3-track 1/2" because the digital 3M 1/2" 3-track tape nobody can play anymore! There was also a 1" 32-track 3M tape that only one place can play anymore (Walt Disney Imagineering; they keep a machine working) that we used for some cues (the 3-track film mixes are printed along with the multitrack channels) but it had to be baked and this caused some ticks (which we have to painstakingly edit out) and the analogue was actually the better source. (Did you know the 3M machine ran at a sampling rate of 50 khz, not 44.1 or even 48? So you have to go analogue out anyway!) Hope that answers the question. In all honesty...digital converters must be better now than in 1982, right? Thanks!Lukas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Hoyt 13 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Ordered. My poor credit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 So much for the new credit crunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 325 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Cool tidbits from LucasWe used mostly the analogue safety 3-track 1/2" because the digital 3M 1/2" 3-track tape nobody can play anymore! There was also a 1" 32-track 3M tape that only one place can play anymore (Walt Disney Imagineering; they keep a machine working) that we used for some cues (the 3-track film mixes are printed along with the multitrack channels) but it had to be baked and this caused some ticks (which we have to painstakingly edit out) and the analogue was actually the better source. (Did you know the 3M machine ran at a sampling rate of 50 khz, not 44.1 or even 48? So you have to go analogue out anyway!) Hope that answers the question. In all honesty...digital converters must be better now than in 1982, right? Thanks!LukasYou typoed Lukas' name wrong, Jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Any word on when shipping is supposed to start?John- impatient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 325 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Any word on when shipping is supposed to start?John- impatient Patience is a virtue. Edit: From what Lukas has been saying on FSM these will be available to the public at Comic Con this weekend. I think it's after that is when they will start shipping them out. I'm not entirely sure but that's my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 915 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I believe SAE started shipping already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I believe SAE started shipping already.Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. I'd be great to get it while I'm still on vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 325 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I believe SAE started shipping already.Very nice.Edit: I've been comparing the mp3 samples from FSM's set...well the previously released cues compared to my OST rip and I can all ready tell the major improvement, not only for the over all mix but the sound as well for the FSM one. I'm glad they were able to have access to the original master tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,450 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Star Trek 2 + The Boys from Brazil at SAE comes to...............$49.90. And the $5 price break starts at $50. Would you believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 6 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 For those overseas, how quick is SAE's shipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davros72 1 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 For those overseas, how quick is SAE's shipping?Also how quick is SAE's shipping in the US? My order shipped 7-21-09. Yay! Can't wait! Wow, what a week, Star Trek II Expanded plus Brooke White's new CD! [Edited because of numeral dyslexia.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 6 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 For those overseas, how quick is SAE's shipping?My order shipped 7-12-09. Must have used the slingshot effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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