Popular Post crumbs 12604 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: We've got enough theories about Williams disapproving of his themes' treatment - we don't need more! Williams personally called Lana Wachowski and had Davis booted off Matrix 4! Kasey Kockroach, BrotherSound and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 It's extinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May the Force be with You 1963 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 A Matrix score by Williams would totally nuts, if only he wanted to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 He could rehash his score to The Book Thief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 2496 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Did Williams ever write a sequel score where the score of the first movie was written by someone else? That never happened, right? So, the only situation where original composers could have complained about the treatment of their themes were in his adaptations and arrangements for Goodbye Mr. Chips, Fiddler on the Roof or Tom Sawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Maybe not the first, but the second... (HP2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6851 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: So, the only situation where original composers could have complained about the treatment of their themes were in his adaptations and arrangements for Goodbye Mr. Chips, Fiddler on the Roof or Tom Sawyer? And War Horse. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 1421 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: We've got enough theories about Williams disapproving of his themes' treatment - we don't need more! If he were (and I appreciate his opinion will always be the first to consider on such matters), I’d have to take issue with it as, for me, Davis did a great job of using the original themes effectively, sensitively and with some interesting new interpretations. Their use was clearly done with care and thought. It would be churlish to take much issue. 1 hour ago, May the Force be with You said: JP3 would be a terrific expansion and its 20th anniversary is indeed a good occasion to bring this great score back to life. Agreed! May the Force be with You 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6851 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I think the issue is with the movie rather than the music. It doesn't feel like it belongs tonally with the other two. Too tongue-in-cheek. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12604 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: If he were (and I appreciate his opinion will always be the first to consider on such matters), I’d have to take issue with it as, for me, Davis did a great job of using the original themes effectively, sensitively and with some interesting new interpretations. Their use was clearly done with care and thought. It would be churlish to take much issue. Agreed! Davis' reinterpolations of JW's themes for JP3 reminds me of what Powell would do in Solo 17 years later. It's a fantastic score with some excellent new themes in its own right (and very effective action scoring too!) Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3550 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 55 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: If he were (and I appreciate his opinion will always be the first to consider on such matters), I’d have to take issue with it as, for me, Davis did a great job of using the original themes effectively, sensitively and with some interesting new interpretations. Their use was clearly done with care and thought. It would be churlish to take much issue. Agreed! Even the march at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12604 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Permanent Waves said: Even the march at the end? It's Mozart-esque next to what Giacchino did to his Star Wars themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 30968 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 4 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Did Williams ever write a sequel score where the score of the first movie was written by someone else? No. Quote So, the only situation where original composers could have complained about the treatment of their themes were in his adaptations and arrangements for Goodbye Mr. Chips, Fiddler on the Roof or Tom Sawyer? He's interpolated plenty of other's compositions into his underscore, such as "The Morning After" in The Poseidon Adventure, "When You Wish Upon A Star" in CE3K, a bunch of stuff in "1941", "The Quiet Man" in ET, "Smokes Gets In Your Eyes" and "Garry Owen" in Always, "Der Rosenkavalier Suite, Op. 59" in A.I., etc. The amount of times he's done new arrangements for source music cues is too massive of a list to put together easily, but some notable ones that also sort of function as underscore are "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" in Home Alone, "I Only Have Eyes For You" in A.I., "The Battle Cry of Freedom" in Lincoln, etc GerateWohl, Bayesian and Yavar Moradi 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 2496 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Agreed! Davis' reinterpolations of JW's themes for JP3 reminds me of what Powell would do in Solo 17 years later. It's a fantastic score with some excellent new themes in its own right (and very effective action scoring too!) Davis better adapted the action sound of JP, so the original themes work quite well with it. John Powel did in Solo more or less his own thing. That is why Solo sounds almost completely like a Powel score and you clearly recongize where Williams starts and Powel ends. In JPIII it is not so clear to me. It is funny. When you listen to the JPIII score you think, what a cool exciting movie this must be. But when you see it... Similar with The Lost World. The movies don't fulfill what the score promises. Tom Guernsey and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30968 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: The movies don't fulfill what the score promises This is probably true for most scores in my collection lol GerateWohl and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LongTallJodie 55 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 I'd be all in on a JP3 release, but I'm also on kind of a Jurassic kick lately because I've been playing Jurassic Park Evolution (stupid Steam sales, get me every time). crumbs, Tom Guernsey and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 1421 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Permanent Waves said: Even the march at the end? You mean the the martial version of the island theme when they are rescued (I think)? I think it’s quite a witty use of it to be honest. Although you could argue that Davis almost parodies the lame arse ending of the film! He really should have made much more use of Big Hat, No Cattle by Randy Newman though. A great lost opportunity (I’m sure many here don’t love that song on the soundtrack but it’s a typically humorous Newman song and the lyrics are very apt in the movie. The album it’s from, Bad Love, is one of his best). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2870 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 3 is easily the worst movie. I wish I could say I'm done with the franchise after Fallen Kingdom, but... I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 It's so bad it's funny to watch. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 1946 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 Meh Smeltington, MaxTheHouseelf, May the Force be with You and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4496 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: 3 is easily the worst movie. I wish I could say I'm done with the franchise after Fallen Kingdom, but... I can't. JPIII is not a good movie, but it's better (or, at least, more watchable) than the awful Fallen Kingdom. Yavar Moradi and Stark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 12604 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 Chewy, Holko and Jay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 1689 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 JPIII is a terrible movie but IMO it's more watchable than *either* of the two Jurassic World movies, which had no spark or chemistry or soul at all... somehow JPIII was more refreshingly honest about being a studio cash grab, or something... Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9323 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 @Kasey Kockroach, Yavar is indirectly bashing BDH's acting abilities. What are you gonna do about it? Kasey Kockroach and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2304 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I’m gonna go back to sleep. Also neither JW or FK feature a Randy Newman song, therefore rendering them superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 1689 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: @Kasey Kockroach, Yavar is indirectly bashing BDH's acting abilities. What are you gonna do about it? Actually I'm a big fan of BDH ever since I saw The Village (and her Black Mirror episode might be my favorite of that series, thanks to her in large part)...and I really like Chris Pratt too! But...not together, it seems. To say the least. Jake Johnson provided the very few moments of enjoyment I had watching Jurassic World. Everyone else was major MEH even including a lot of other talented actors. Irrfan Khan sure was wasted. Yavar Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15468 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Also neither JW or FK feature a Randy Newman song, therefore rendering them superior. Randy is a National Treasure. 37 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: the two Jurassic World movies, which had no spark or chemistry or soul at all... This is the good take. These World movies are DOA. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2304 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 In fairness, no one has chemistry with Chris Pratt. 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Randy is a National Treasure. I like his scores. The only song of his I like is the one about short people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 1689 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: In fairness, no one has chemistry with Chris Pratt. I think the Guardians of the Galaxy cast does. And he was also good on Everwood. And Parks and Recreation. Yavar May the Force be with You 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30968 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: In fairness, no one has chemistry with Chris Pratt. Aubrey Plaza did! But yea, he had no chemistry with Jennifer Lawrence in Passengers either And IRL, dumping Anna Farris for Katherine Schwarzenegger seems like a huge downgrade Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15468 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Bringing his actual personal relationships into a conversation about his on-screen performances and chemistry is weird. 8 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: I like his scores. The only song of his I like is the one about short people. You can't have listened to albums like Sail Away or Good Old Boys. "Short People", while being a great song, is still a lesser version of the kinds of songs he had been writing 5 years earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2304 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: You can't have listened to albums like Sail Away Would rather listen to Enya sing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30968 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 July flyer is here Quote La La Land is having a heat wave! https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10160030562508755 I wonder if they'll also have titles on July 27th or if this is it for the month Chewy, TSMefford, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 1946 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 So I guess the 3rd title that was discussed in the latest MM podcast will be released by Intrada or just later by LLL Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 684 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Hasn't Somewhere In Time mostly been re-recordings? That's one I was always curious in (thanks to the Reeves connection). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 1421 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, HunterTech said: Hasn't Somewhere In Time mostly been re-recordings? That's one I was always curious in (thanks to the Reeves connection). There is a fine re-recording on Varese by the RSNO under John Debney but not sure if the original album is a re-recording. Was quite surprised to discover that I don't own the original album so will definitely be picking this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2870 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Nothing for me, and a good thing too because I'm spending everything on holidays this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 361 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, crumbs said: VIC FONTAINE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3601 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 We're too late... the construction crew has finished patching up the dam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTWfan77 1309 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Definite meh-fest for me. My wallet is very relieved. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 650 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I may be interested in Somewhere in Time, I will be interested to see what the details look like on that one. There may be fun in the other scores, but I'm not familiar with those or the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 1773 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 Iam reborn for SOMEWHERE IN TIME. It's my first love for a John Barry score. To date I only have the re-recording which is great but the full score must be a premiere. Super excited. Tom Guernsey, MrJosh, Edmilson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6819 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Somewhere in time... An expansion or just a remastered reissue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 30968 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 It says "Expanded" on the cover. Bespin, Yavar Moradi and MrJosh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LongTallJodie 55 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 Definitely into SOMEWHERE IN TIME. More Barry expansions is always a good thing. MikeH, Yavar Moradi, Demondm810 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 848 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Count me in for the Barry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 860 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I only have the Varese recording of Somewhere In Time, so this is welcome news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stark 179 Posted July 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2021 LongTallJodie, A. A. Ron, Brando and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KittBash 83 Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 Had this show up in my feeds today... good discussion with Matt Verboys of La La Land with Mike M and Bruce Broughton Holko, Chewy, Dr. Rick and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8018 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Great conversation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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