Popular Post Jay 37,281 Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 Let's hope LLL can continue to release music from everything WB owns! ~ MV has revealed there will be no banner today: "No flyer this month Hopefully we will have a release or two on Feb 22. Don't expect anything jaw dropping. Don't expect anything John Williams. MV" https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=118900&forumID=1&archive=0&viewLast=1 Chewy, bruce marshall, Brando and 7 others 3 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,372 Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Jay said: Don't expect anything John Williams. New Jerry Goldsmith release confirmed. Yavar Moradi, bollemanneke and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,584 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Chewy said: New Jerry Goldsmith release confirmed. Yup just not from LLL https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/9988703-production-report-black-patch-the-man-2021-intrada-recording Yavar Tom Guernsey and Chewy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 This question has probably been put here a thousand times. Is there a difference between the Shipping Status "Sold Out" and "Out of Print"? Or do both more or less mean, that this title is in no way available anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,023 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Jay is probably going to correct this, but at least usually on LLL's site, OOP means they won't be pressing more copies. Sold Out means they have sold out the current batch, but they will get it back in stock. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,498 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Sold Out means they have sold out the current batch, but they will get it back in stock. Isn't that Temporarily Out Of Stock? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, Holko said: Isn't that Temporarily Out Of Stock? Yes, I think so. At the Harry Potter box for example Shipping Status says "Temporarily Out of Stock". But 1941 is "Sold Out". Close Encounters is "Out of Print". bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,023 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 OK, I'm sure Jay will explain it all, once again. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,281 Posted February 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2022 "Temporarily out of stock" is the only status that means it will be back in stock again one day, ie back for sale on the same product page with identical everything at its original price. "Out of Print" and "Sold Out" are for all intents and purposes, identical to each other. It means they've sold all they are gonna sell, and do not intend (or perhaps legally cannot) order any more. As for why one term is used over the other, it's a bit nebulous and confusing. I think in general, Sold Out is meant to imply they sold the maximum they were allowed to sell with their license, whole Out of Print means their license has expired, whether they sold all that they were allotted or not. But I suspect they aren't necessarily strict with these terms, and could put up either one to indicate a title isn't coming back. GerateWohl, Jurassic Shark and Yavar Moradi 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jay said: "Tenporarily out of stock" is the only status that means it will be back in stock again one day In ten months, perhaps? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Typo fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Isn't "Sold Out" more used for an expired licence as Alien3, Elfman Batman Collection and Die Hard 3 are all labeled as "Sold Out" each of them having less than 5000 copies while 5000 copies scores like Jurassic Park and E.T. are labeled "Out of Print". Because I am still waiting for Die Hard 3 last batch which was announced before the pandemic or at its beginning and never happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I like when the labels do expectation-management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 hours ago, May the Force be with You said: I am still waiting for Die Hard 3 last batch which was announced before the pandemic or at its beginning and never happened I found this thread from September 2020, in which MV indicated they planned to get Die Hard With A Vengeance back in stock in 2021: https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=141488&forumID=1&archive=0 And I found this thread from January 2021, in which MV indicated Die Hard With A Vengeance had an "unknown" restock date: https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=142714&forumID=1&archive=0 I haven't found any posts where he's mentioned it since then. It could still be planned to come back, or maybe they changed their minds? It is unusual that the product page says "Sold Out" if they plan on bringing it back: https://lalalandrecords.com/die-hard-with-a-vengeance-limited-edition-2-cd-set/ So maybe it said "Temporarily Out Of Stock" for a while, and then recently changed to "Sold Out" when they decided not to make more. That would explain everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jay said: But maybe it said "Temporarily Out Of Stock" for a while, and then recently changed to "Sold Out" when they decided not to make more That's what happened. I think it was around last september that it changed from "Temporarily Out Of Stock" to "Sold Out" But yes that's confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Oh, well there you go then. Clearly in January 2021 they were still planning on bringing it back, but by September 2021 they decided not to any more. That's a bummer - it's a wonderful release of a great score. Maybe with any luck, it means they are rebuilding it from scratch for a 30th anniversary edition in 2025? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 That would be great. The 30th anniversary of Die Hard was really a great presentation, I don't know though if it would contain more music of if that first one contained everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 The existing DHWAV release does not contain some short drum roll heard at the end of the film, I think that's it Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 It would be great if we also got the film version of "Bank Invasion" and Mark Mangini's source music for a re-release! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,314 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Die Hard needs a fresh remaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Over in the FSM LLL thread, I asked MV about the difference between Sold Out and Out Of Print on their website, and he said : "It all depends on what our webmaster chooses to write when we tell him that the cd is gone from the catalog. At some point I will probably have him either delete them entirely from our website or just label them SOLD OUT because OUT OF PRINT confuses some people. MV" Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 That's clarify everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 I'm still not a fan of them deleting releases entirely from the website, which they only started doing with the redesign a few years back. With the old site, I liked being able to see the entire catalog, even if there was no chance of it coming in print again. These days of course I just use SoundtrackCollector to see OOP releases, which is fine I guess. MaxTheHouseelf, mstrox, Marian Schedenig and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 03/02/2022 at 8:06 AM, May the Force be with You said: I am still waiting for Die Hard 3 last batch which was announced before the pandemic or at its beginning and never happened I have a terrible update for you. Just posted by MV in the LLL thread on FSM: "contract expired. No plans for a re-release. No reason to MV" Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Brando and Corellian2019 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,023 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 May the force be with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Sad news... The only positive thing about it is that I'll save a bit of money for other releases... Bounty95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,023 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Geez, for a moment there I thought Eric Idle has died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 In the FSM thread, MV posted this about what sells best and worst for them: "The sweet spot is 60s TV Films from '75 to '98 Animated shows from the 70's and 80s' and early 90's There are exceptions of course, but that seems to have worked for us over the last 2 decades. MV" I replied with surprise that he choose to end their sweet spot at 1998 specifically, and listed all their 1999-2004 titles I could think of that they've released. MV relied with some pretty shocking news about how each release I listed sold for them: "1999 - Forces of Nature - tanked 1999 - Galaxy Quest - will sell out 1999 - Mystery Men - tanked 1999 - Office Space - tanked 1999 - The World Is Not Enough - might sell 4000 units of the 5000 2000 - Shaft - tanked 2000 - Titan A.E. - tanked 2000 - X-Men - will sell 3000 units 2001 - A.I. Artificial Intelligence - stellar release. 1st batch sold out 2001 - Planet of the Apes - tanked 2001/2002/2004 - Harry Potter Collection - stellar release. Will sell out 2002 - Die Another Day - might sell 4000 units of the 5000 2002 - Minority Report - will eventually sell 3000 units 2002 - The Sum of All Fears - sold 2000 of the 3000 2003 - Love Actually - tanked 2003 - Matrix Reloaded - did 2000 of the 3000 2003 - Matrix Revolutions - tanked 2003 - Willard - tanked 2003 - X2: X-Men United - had to unload to our distributor, put on sale. Will finally sell out 2004 - Passion of the Christ - tanked 2004 - Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow - tanked 2004 - The Stepford Wives - tanked And when I write tanked that means only pressed once...dumped them at a loss or inventory still sitting here. MV" crumbs, Yavar Moradi, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Dang, not even the Bonds sell well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 That part was the most shocking to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,314 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Some titles like X-2 were not coveted by folks like me who had the excellent ost presentation. I suspect this is also true for SKY and some other titles. Fans didnt desire another version. Too bad though. I want LLL to be sucessful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,381 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jay said: 2003 - Matrix Revolutions - tanked This is so sad. It's my favorite score from the trilogy! But I guess the OST covered all main highlights. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,314 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Not everybody wants every score they already own, expanded. JWFANS are outliers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I want LLL to be sucessful His list is only talking about 1999-2004 restorations that didn't sell well. As he said in his post, they still release plenty of other music that sells great bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,314 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Dang, not even the Bonds sell well? I don't know, three to four thousand each isn't to bad for a non- Barry score. Especially since they aren't premieres. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: This is so sad. It's my favorite score from the trilogy! But I guess the OST covered all main highlights. I'd have gladly picked up that release but I discovered these scores late and Revolutions was never in stock from the moment I wanted it. Fortunately I was able to get one of their "lost and found" copies of Reloaded last year, but it's now left me with an incomplete set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 There are some real gems in that list that tanked. Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions were fantastic releases, as was Passion of the Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Love Actually, Matrix Revolutions, Passion of the Christ and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow are must have. I recommend everyone go get them. I've also brought Titan A. E. and Willard. I think they are pretty enjoyable. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 La-La Land Records Presents! JOHN WILLIAMS BIRTHDAY SALE! HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN WILLIAMS! The Maestro is 90 and we're celebrating with $5 OFF each of our IN-STOCK John Williams CD titles! Get FIDDLER ON THE ROOF, SUPERMAN THE MOVIE, SUPERMAN IV THE QUEST FOR PEACE, MINORITY REPORT, FAR & AWAY, ALWAYS, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, A.I. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, TIME TUNNEL Vol 1 and TIME TUNNEL Vol 2 at a $5 OFF sale price now thru 2/15. https://lalalandrecords.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,498 Posted February 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2022 5$? He's 90, LLL, that should be either 90$ off or 90% off! Tsk, tsk. bruce marshall, crumbs, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 MV posted on FSM about restocking! https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=146835&forumID=1&archive=0 Giving you all a head's up on titles we will be restocking in the near future. Hopefully we will hit these dates Late February PEACEMAKER (FINAL BATCH) KINGSMAN SECRET SERVICE (FINAL BATCH) SOMEWHERE IN TIME EARLY MARCH BATMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES (VOL 1) (FINAL BATCH) DIARY OF ANNE FRANK MID MARCH JOHN WILLIAMS HARRY POTTER COLLECTION EMPIRE OF THE SUN (FINAL BATCH) BEVERLY HILLS COP (FINAL BATCH) APRIL THIN RED LINE SCHINDLER'S LIST That is all that is planned for right now. Please don't ask the predictable "BUT WHAT ABOUT" question some of you are bound to ask. I will not be addressing those titles until the next update. Thank you. MV Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Amer said: MID MARCH EMPIRE OF THE SUN (FINAL BATCH) Yesssssssss! Cannot wait to finally pick this up! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 MV also indicated that all the 20th Century Studios releases they've had in the past 2 years were greenlit before the Disney acquisition, and more are coming Quote Quote Quote Disney buying Fox has had no impact on any label's potential to release scores from 20th Century Studio's back catalog. Four volumes of Goldsmith at 20th, two volumes of Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, The Diary of Anne Frank, X-Men, X-Files Volume 4, The Orville Season 2... the 20th Century Studios hits keep coming! Is it safe to say things are fully in the clear though? I seem to remember several of those titles being in the works for so long they actually predated the sale. Correct. All our deals were done beforehand, but thats not to say more deals can't take place in the future. As of right now we have at least three more Fox titles in the works. MV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I recall MM saying in a podcast that more Fox scores were indeed coming (all signed before the acquisition) but none of them were JW. He did mention approaching Fox/Disney about doing Valley of the Dolls, "once the dust has settled." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,023 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 JW's most cheesy score? I'm surprised if he greenlights this and not TSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 07/02/2022 at 1:10 AM, Jay said: In the FSM thread, MV posted this about what sells best and worst for them: "The sweet spot is 60s TV Films from '75 to '98 Animated shows from the 70's and 80s' and early 90's There are exceptions of course, but that seems to have worked for us over the last 2 decades. MV" I replied with surprise that he choose to end their sweet spot at 1998 specifically, and listed all their 1999-2004 titles I could think of that they've released. MV relied with some pretty shocking news about how each release I listed sold for them: "1999 - Forces of Nature - tanked 1999 - Galaxy Quest - will sell out 1999 - Mystery Men - tanked 1999 - Office Space - tanked 1999 - The World Is Not Enough - might sell 4000 units of the 5000 2000 - Shaft - tanked 2000 - Titan A.E. - tanked 2000 - X-Men - will sell 3000 units 2001 - A.I. Artificial Intelligence - stellar release. 1st batch sold out 2001 - Planet of the Apes - tanked 2001/2002/2004 - Harry Potter Collection - stellar release. Will sell out 2002 - Die Another Day - might sell 4000 units of the 5000 2002 - Minority Report - will eventually sell 3000 units 2002 - The Sum of All Fears - sold 2000 of the 3000 2003 - Love Actually - tanked 2003 - Matrix Reloaded - did 2000 of the 3000 2003 - Matrix Revolutions - tanked 2003 - Willard - tanked 2003 - X2: X-Men United - had to unload to our distributor, put on sale. Will finally sell out 2004 - Passion of the Christ - tanked 2004 - Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow - tanked 2004 - The Stepford Wives - tanked And when I write tanked that means only pressed once...dumped them at a loss or inventory still sitting here. MV" That's a shocking list, especially with regard to Shaft, Matrix Revolutions, Passion of the Christ, Stepford Wives, and the James Bond scores. These are all terrific scores and editions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,361 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Someone once pointed out to me that there are die-hard James Bond fans who have every movie, every book, posters in the house... And it never occurred to them to buy a Bond score outside of a songs collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Even for people who are obsessed with a particular movie or series, listening to the score decoupled from the movie just isn't something that appeals to most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positivatee 327 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I actually bought two of those tanked albums. I have some of the others too, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I've got 18 of those. Some really god releases on that list. Karol blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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