Romão 2,274 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Batman ForeverBatman & Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musica42 0 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Here's a few more terrible movies with A-list composers (can't really comment on the quality of all their scores):Catwoman, Klaus BadeltThe Postman, James Newton Howard (and John Sebastian)Gigli, John PowellI Know Who Killed Me, Joel McNeelyLeonard Part 6, Elmer BernsteinStriptease, Howard ShoreMac and Me, Alan SilvestriSon of the Mask, Randy EdelmanWaterworld, James Newton Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETMusic 1 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Waterworld, James Newton HowardI forgot about Waterworld. Fun score, but the movie is abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Batman ForeverBatman & RobinThat could be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 With apologies to Goldenthal and his fans...I find his Batman scores to be as bad as the films they accompany. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Batman Forever isn't bad and this is coming from a Tim Burton Batman film fanboy who was disgusted when Michael Keaton didn't return and mostly everything seemed to change between the second and third movie. I think Forever does enough things well to redeem it from "worst" movie status. I mean, just look at what followed it, right? I like Goldenthal's music. The bts material on the SE DVD especially gave me a new-found respect for the production. I would love to see a 3 hour director's cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I was into the demonic funkiness of Goldenthal's Batman Forever at some point, but I haven't been able to rekindle the spark. They're so... all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 In all fairness, I might actually enjoy the non-thematic parts of the scores. I haven't really listened to them enough to make a really fair judgment. But the main theme annoys me deeply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 With apologies to Goldenthal and his fans...I find his Batman scores to be as bad as the films they accompany. =/They're as insanely over the top as the films. But unlike the films, they're brilliant (or at least Forever is, I've only heard B&R once in the film, but it seemed quite similar). Vintage, full-blown Goldenthal perfectly blending about a dozen of styles with brilliant orchestrations. Forever is among my favourite Goldenthal scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 In all fairness, I might actually enjoy the non-thematic parts of the scores. I haven't really listened to them enough to make a really fair judgment. But the main theme annoys me deeply.I recommend that you give it another chance if you can, Joe. While some of the music such as "Perpetuum Mobile" and "Main Title & Fanfare" turn me off, I think there is more than enough great material to compensate, from the slight Prokofiev homages in "Two Face Three Step" to the muted trumpet in "Mr. E's Dance Card...". Even the main theme gets some truly awesome variations (my favorite being perhaps "Fledermausmarschmusik"). Not Goldenthal's best, I do not think, but very solid.Regarding Batman and Robin, I seem to remember the score re-using music from Batman Forever, but my observations are based only on the one time that I managed to sit through the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex1272 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Supergirl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The Mummy - Jerry GoldsmithThe Mummy Returns - Alan SilvestriVan Helsing - Alan Silvestri (not great, but a loud, fun score) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Mummy is a decent popcorn flick with a good cast. I'd even say the same about its ridiculously over-the-top sequel.Van Helsing is definitely a suck-fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musica42 0 Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 And a few others...Back to School, Big Top Peewee, and Hot to Trot were all terrible films of Elfman's early career.Super Mario Bros and Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot are a couple more from Silvestri's closet.Wild Wild West and The Black Cauldron by Elmer Bernstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 And a few others...Wild Wild West and The Black Cauldron by Elmer Bernstein.Heck yeah.I too like The Mummy. Very fun movie.The sequel on the other hand... I'm in no rush to watch that again. Also has what I consider some of the worst SFX produced for a major blockbuster.And while I'm trashing Mummy movies, The Mummy 3 looks so bad I can't even watch it, but Edelman's score is perfectly good for a summer movie IMO. Just wish the idiot would get rid of those synths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The third Mummy film isn't as bad as it looks, I rank it about equal to The Mummy Returns (which I don't love, neither do I hate) but I was expecting much much worse. There were some terrible terrible moments (apparently Yetis are well versed in the sport of American football)and at least 5 scenes/scenarios almost directly lifted from the Indy films (Shanghai car chase, rickety propeller plane over Himalayas, hero entering tent to find his lady bound, etc). Fraser slips effortlessly into his role but the rest of the cast don't fare as well. Plus its got some very decent action sequences. You could do far worse, on a lazy boring weekend afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I love The Mummy! I enjoyed The Mummy Returns. I nearly walked out on The Mummy 3, it was so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The Mummy tries too hard to be funny and fails, other than that it's a decent action yarn. Never bothered with the sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I recommend that you give it another chance if you can, Joe. While some of the music such as "Perpetuum Mobile" and "Main Title & Fanfare" turn me off, I think there is more than enough great material to compensate, from the slight Prokofiev homages in "Two Face Three Step" to the muted trumpet in "Mr. E's Dance Card...".Main Title & Fanfare is a wonderfully hilarious Zarathustra spoof. The other funny highlight of the album is the brass screaming "Bat........maaaaaaan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 And the love theme heard in Chase Noir is an absolutely gorgeous piano melody, as they usually are with Goldenthal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow comes to mind.I actually enjoyed that one as well. Very campy and cheesy, but still fun none-the-less. Definitely a great score though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I recommend that you give it another chance if you can, Joe. While some of the music such as "Perpetuum Mobile" and "Main Title & Fanfare" turn me off, I think there is more than enough great material to compensate, from the slight Prokofiev homages in "Two Face Three Step" to the muted trumpet in "Mr. E's Dance Card...".Main Title & Fanfare is a wonderfully hilarious Zarathustra spoof. The other funny highlight of the album is the brass screaming "Bat........maaaaaaan".Wait, what? I do not remember that anywhere...could you please tell me the Track title? And I never really picked up on the Also Spracht Zarathustra spoof, either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow comes to mind.I actually enjoyed that one as well. Very campy and cheesy, but still fun none-the-less. Like what?Congo is a very fun movie to watch. It is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 It has a talking gorilla and the guy from The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 STOP EATING MY SESAME CAKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 It has a talking gorilla and the guy from The Rocky Horror Picture Show.Amy... sad. The movie is awful but it is enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Wow! A talking gorilla! I can feel the money hairs on the back of my neck going "wooh wooh wooh!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Wow! A talking gorilla! I can feel the money hairs on the back of my neck going "wooh wooh wooh!"Whenever Goldsmith's horn fanfare roars through the jungle, all cheesiness is forgotten. And as far as i can remember, he used that theme a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The music when they parachute out of the plane is something I recorded onto my Talkboy years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 [Congo] has a talking gorilla and the guy from The Rocky Horror Picture Show.It has a talking gorilla because it would be too difficult to effectively portray a signing gorilla without making knowledge of American Sign Language a prerequisite for a two hour popcorn movie, and because making Peter translate for Amy in the movie each time she says something would limit the dramatic effectiveness of both characters. The concept worked in the book, which was stellar, but the movie invented a techie way around it.That guy from The Rocky Horror Picture Show was also in Home Alone 2, Clue, Red October, Annie, and more cartoons than I can imagine. He's also in Dragon Age: Origins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 It has a talking gorilla and the guy from The Rocky Horror Picture Show.It has the guy from Nip/Tuck and one of the Ghostbusters as well. We've done these awful movies/ great score lists to death over the years. I know it's the norm to automatically give Goldsmith the nod, but truthfully there are very few "great" scores to bad films. Most of the scores qualify as good, not great.I would classify them as scores that manage to rise above the films they were composed for. I wouldn't include Rambo, First Blood II as a bad film. It was one of the top grossing films the year it was released and as an action film it's very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 That guy from The Rocky Horror Picture Show was also in Home Alone 2, Clue, Red October, Annie, and more cartoons than I can imagine. He's also in Dragon Age: Origins.Yes, Tim Curry. He's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 He was really a pretty decent Long John Silver in Muppet Treasure Island as well.I'm going to pre-empt this and say New Moon is going to be bad, but the score sounds like it's going to be GREAT. Thank you for saving the series, Desplat.New Moon samples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Let us not forget Tim Curry's chilling role as Pennywise in It... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 He was also amazing in LEGEND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 That he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The Neverending Story II, Robert Folk Not heard it. Does it feature the same great themes from the original?The Bridge to TerabithiaThat is a lovely little picture and in no way a bad movie.Predator IIAwesome action flick and the second best Predator movie, funnily enough. Score is basically a Ricky Martin rehash of original though, with one pretty good addition in the motif department.Anyway, I shall submit Raise the Titanic and The Lord of the Rings (1978). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I wouldn't include Rambo, First Blood II as a bad film. It was one of the top grossing films the year it was releasedso were the prequels and indy iv.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Anyway, I shall submit Raise the Titanic and The Lord of the Rings (1978).I never got on with the old LOTR. Terrible movie as you imply, but the music always seemed horribly twee. Then again, the only Rosenman I ever got into was Planet of the Apes.Some of the Bond movies come to mind. Drax'll kill me, but MOONRAKER and A VIEW TO A KILL both have fine scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I wouldn't include Rambo, First Blood II as a bad film. It was one of the top grossing films the year it was releasedso were the prequels and indy iv....Yeah but those are bad films with average scores, except TPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 First Blood part II is a great action film, with some brilliantly bad dialogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 As a turn your brain off film, it's fun and ludicrous. But the central message behind the film (like Cameron said, he wrote the action and Stallone wrote the politics) is reprehensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 You don't think all those missing in action and in a chink prison should be freed and brought home? Preferably with as much violence against charlie as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Violence against Charlie is never appreciated!Still, at least he never teamed up with the Taliban.Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Actually, the Mujahadin are the enemy of the Taliban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 ID 4 ...oh I forgot that the score also sucks...big timeIndy 4 ...oh I forgot that the score also sucks...Never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Screw you man, ID4 is brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 He thinks he's being funny, but I've just reminded him that he isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I don't think I'am being funny , just stating the fact.But brilliant I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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