crocodile 8,010 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 New bond movie directed by Sam Mendes has been now officially confirmed and starts shooting later this year.Which means it'll be released around the same time as Snyder's Superman and The Hobbit. It's getting quite crowded... Let's not forget the world is scheduled to end on 21st of December.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 New bond movie directed by Sam Mendes has been now officially confirmed and starts shooting later this year.Which means it'll be released around the same time as Snyder's Superman and The Hobbit. It's getting quite crowded... Let's not forget the world is scheduled to end on 21st of December.KarolBad news for "Tin Tin", and "War Horse", then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,010 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Aren't they both to be released this year?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 2012 should be a good year for scores then. A 4th LotR score, an Arnold Bond score for a director who knows what good music is, and maybe Snyder will hire a good composer too (he should give Hirshfelder a shot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 an Arnold Bond score for a director who knows what good music is.If he does (which I doubt), then he should drop Arnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 2012 should be a good year for scores then. A 4th LotR score, an Arnold Bond score for a director who knows what good music is, and maybe Snyder will hire a good composer too (he should give Hirshfelder a shot).no wonder the worlds gonna end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 an Arnold Bond score for a director who knows what good music is.If he does (which I doubt), then he should drop Arnold.Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 an Arnold Bond score for a director who knows what good music is.If he does (which I doubt), then he should drop Arnold.Huh?"If he knows good music is he should drop arnold" is what Prometheus is trying to say Richuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,686 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I have been able to obtain an exclusive preview of the up-comming Sam Mendes/Bond 23 script:Scene 11.Int., M.I.6 control room.Bond, and his associate Tanner, are talking about Bond's impending mission. M. enters the room, and walks up to Bond.M: "Bond, have you got a minute?"Bond (over-cheerfully): "For you, M., I've got five!".I can hardly wait!James Horner would be excellent choice to score. He'd be able to put in his danger motif into the Bond theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Please, please, please let Thomas Newman do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I have been able to obtain an exclusive preview of the up-comming Sam Mendes/Bond 23 script:Scene 11.Int., M.I.6 control room.Bond, and his associate Tanner, are talking about Bond's impending mission. M. enters the room, and walks up to Bond.M: "Bond, have you got a minute?"Bond (over-cheerfully): "For you, M., I've got five!".I can hardly wait!James Horner would be excellent choice to score. He'd be able to put in his danger motif into the Bond theme.Don't think of the danger, or the stranger lives on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale.If they had thought that back in 1969, then the world would not have had the greatest Bond score of all: "On Her Majesty's Secret Service". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale.What Bond needs, it's a good script. The Broccolis should drop Mr Purvis and Mr Wade first. Musically, Arnold has written far better Bond scores than any other, often more skilled composer, save for John Barry of course.If they had thought that back in 1969, then the world would not have had the greatest Bond score of all: "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".Not to mention that Casino Royale has the best score since Tomorrow Never Dies and the best song since Goldeneye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale.What Bond needs, it's a good script. The Broccolis should drop Mr Purvis and Mr Wade first. Musically, Arnold has written far better Bond scores than any other, often more skilled composer, save for John Barry of course.If they had thought that back in 1969, then the world would not have had the greatest Bond score of all: "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".Not to mention that Casino Royale has the best score since Tomorrow Never Dies and the best song since Goldeneye.What? You don't like k.d. Lang's "Surrender"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale.What Bond needs, it's a good script. The Broccolis should drop Mr Purvis and Mr Wade first. Musically, Arnold has written far better Bond scores than any other, often more skilled composer, save for John Barry of course.If they had thought that back in 1969, then the world would not have had the greatest Bond score of all: "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".Not to mention that Casino Royale has the best score since Tomorrow Never Dies and the best song since Goldeneye.What? You don't like k.d. Lang's "Surrender"? I do, but I don't find it better than GoldenEye, a song which still gives me shivers, nor You Know My Name, which in my opinion is Arnold's best and definitely one of the most original and ballsiest Bond song ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale.What Bond needs, it's a good script. The Broccolis should drop Mr Purvis and Mr Wade first. Musically, Arnold has written far better Bond scores than any other, often more skilled composer, save for John Barry of course.If they had thought that back in 1969, then the world would not have had the greatest Bond score of all: "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".Not to mention that Casino Royale has the best score since Tomorrow Never Dies and the best song since Goldeneye.What? You don't like k.d. Lang's "Surrender"? I do, but I don't find it better than GoldenEye, a song which still gives me shivers, nor You Know My Name, which in my opinion is Arnold's best and definitely one of the most original and ballsiest Bond song ever.Oh, I agree on both counts! It's just a shame that "Surrender" got relegated to the end title, when some suited bozo decided to make that Sheryl Crow song the main event. A lot of Bond songs seem to go that way. "If There Was A Man", and "If You Asked me To" are both lovely songs in their right. 'Tis a pity, that, unless you are either a film music collector, or a die-hard Bond fan, you would not hear them, having left the cinema as soon as they started to play. Don't even get me started on "Only Myself To Blame"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Oh, I agree on both counts! It's just a shame that "Surrender" got relegated to the end title, when some suited bozo decided to make that Sheryl Crow song the main event. A lot of Bond songs seem to go that way. "If There Was A Man", and "If You Asked me To" are both lovely songs in their right. 'Tis a pity, that, unless you are either a film music collector, or a die-hard Bond fan, you would not hear them, having left the cinema as soon as they started to play. Don't even get me started on "Only Myself To Blame"...Have you ever heard Arnold performing Only Myself to Blame? That's a real treat. He did that on one of the radio shows last October. Pity I didn't record that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Did Arnold sing it, as well? I have never heard Arnold sing. I have never heard John Williams sing, for that matter. I have heard him whistle, though...and so have you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Did Arnold sing it, as well? I have never heard Arnold sing. Now you can - somebody, apparently, did record that show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,010 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Interesting...Please, please, please let Thomas Newman do it. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Oh. wow! Thanks for that. Arnold has a realy nice voice, doesn't he? It just goes to illustrate my original point: if you have two of the best voices of the 20th Century (k.d. Lang, and the supreme Scott Walker!), then you make damn sure that you use them!On a related note; I do hope that Arnold scores Bond 23; I couldn't imagine the Bond series without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Please, please, please let Thomas Newman do it. KarolHe might appreciate the challenge, but I wonder if TM would really like to score such a fast-paced action&explosion-filled movie.As for Arnold singing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,010 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 In any case I'd like to hear it. Not that Arnold's doing anything wrong. It's just he did 5 of these already...Is this clip from the October concert?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Is this clip from the October concert?KarolYes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I think it's important for David Arnold to be involved with the title song. Not letting some artist run wild and come up with a piece of crap like the last song and Madonna's disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale.If they had thought that back in 1969, then the world would not have had the greatest Bond score of all: "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".That's because they had John Barry, who'd all written 4 utterly unique and memorable scores prior to that...I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale.What Bond needs, it's a good script. The Broccolis should drop Mr Purvis and Mr Wade first. Musically, Arnold has written far better Bond scores than any other, often more skilled composer, save for John Barry of course.Nah. Give me Bill Conti, George Martin and Eric Serra's idiosyncratic efforts over any Arnold score. At least they had the balls to follow their own voice, rather that constantly pay homage to Barry.Not that Arnold's doing anything wrong. But he's not really doing anything right either. That's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davros72 1 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 OMG, you'd seriously want another Eric Serra? Instead of Arnold?? Yikes.I'd rather a Bond film sound like a Bond film, IMHO.You are, of course, entitled to your own humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Eric Serra's GoldenEye is the best score in the franchise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Eric Serra's GoldenEye is the best score in the franchise!While not holding "GoldenEye" in as high a regard as Koray, I must admit that I really, really, really like it. It is so different to any other Bond score, and, for me, it totally matches the film. Anyway, whatever you say about the score, on thing is true: the title song is a real belter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 It's good, but it's never as good as I was hoping it would be, if you consider the singer and writers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I'd rather stick a spoon in my ass than listen to another Eric Serra score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I can't take credit for that. Lewis Black gets the nod when he was talking about watching the Superbowl with Aerosmith, Britney Spears and NSync performing together at halftime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 That sounded like something he would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I can't take credit for that. Lewis Black gets the nod when he was talking about watching the Superbowl with Aerosmith, Britney Spears and NSync performing together at halftime.Haven't watched his stand up in awhile, but I love him. Got his autograph from a show in Baltimore a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I'd rather stick a spoon in my ass than listen to another Eric Serra score.Would you like me to come over there, and do it for you? I'll even bring the K.Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I'm flattered but the Mrs. might get upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 OMG, you'd seriously want another Eric Serra? Instead of Arnold?? Yikes.Yeah. These cues are more moving than Arnold's generic Vesper tripe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale.If they had thought that back in 1969, then the world would not have had the greatest Bond score of all: "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".That's because they had John Barry, who'd all written 4 utterly unique and memorable scores prior to that...I know what he said. I wondered if he was being serious.Damn right. Musically, Bond needs a clean slate. Too bad they didn't do that with Casino Royale.What Bond needs, it's a good script. The Broccolis should drop Mr Purvis and Mr Wade first. Musically, Arnold has written far better Bond scores than any other, often more skilled composer, save for John Barry of course.Nah. Give me Bill Conti, George Martin and Eric Serra's idiosyncratic efforts over any Arnold score. At least they had the balls to follow their own voice, rather that constantly pay homage to Barry.I forgot about George Martin. Indeed, his music was quie good. But Conti's? Come on? I find his score for FYEO mostly distracting and uneffective. It neither really works in the movie, nor on the album. Even Monty Norman did better. Preety much I think the same about Hamlisch's TSWLM with it's atrocious disco action tracks. Conti's and Hamlisch's song were good, though.Not that Arnold's doing anything wrong. But he's not really doing anything right either. That's the problem.What's exactly not right about Arnold's scores? Do you mean all of them, some of them or just particular tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Not that Arnold's doing anything wrong. But he's not really doing anything right either. That's the problem.What's exactly not right about Arnold's scores? Do you mean all of them, some of them or just particular tracks?They're just not anthemic, stirring, individual, memorable or atmospheric enough. Bland use of the orchestra as well. Too many skippable cues, too much ambient filler.And I'm talking in general here, since 1997. There's some good 30 second moments or so in a few tracks, but they're needles in the haystack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Bond music needs anthems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,010 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Yes! Please!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,520 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 It's already got an anthem, hasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Bond music needs anthems?Well, not literally. What I mean is memorable, rip-roaring, 'f yeah!" melodies that make your hair stand on end. Not merely repackagings of the Bond theme. The kind that Barry, Goldsmith and Williams once wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Eric Serra's GoldenEye is the best score in the franchise!So what cue stands out most for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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