#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 On FSM you can find about 1000 reasons why he apparently shouldn't.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The new Bond will be called Skyfall, and David Arnold will score it.The title is OK, nothing special.Great that Arnold truly is this series new John Barry!This is good news. As much as I like Thomas Newman, David Arnold is THE Bond composer at this time."Skyfall", eh? Nothing to do with Rupert Murdoch, by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/eon-productions-metro-goldwyn-mayer-studios-and-sony-pictures-entertainment-announce-7th-november-is-start-of-production-for-23rd-james-bond-film-skyfall-133144863.htmlRoger Deakins is the DP on this one, which is great news, and Stuart Baird is back as editor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 http://www.prnewswir...-133144863.htmlRoger Deakins is the DP on this one, which is great news, and Stuart Baird is back as editor!This film just gets better, and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Was it even in question that he would?BTW, always give a source for news items. Here's one:http://www.huffingto..._n_1073302.htmlWhy not give a source that actually lists Arnold?http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_23_official_title_announcement.php3?s=bond23&id=02997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It's a slight disappointment. That Arnold is doing it again.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 There's nothing wrong with his works. They're really enjoyable. But I've heard his Bond already. In fact, five of them. Been there, done that. I was hoping that Tom Newman might get this job. He's perfectly capable of writing fully symphonic action score, just nobody asks him to do that because he's typecast in all the dramas. To hear someone with his skills and talent tackling this would be awesome. I wonder whether they even asked him?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Bond movies aren't "director's movies" so it doesn't really matter who's doing it.KarolTrue, the formula dictates the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Within the formula, the hand of the director can be seen though. A Terence Young directed film feels different from a Guy Hamilton one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Who did the one with Yaphet Kotto? That's the best vintage Bond film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Guy Hamilton, and it's one of the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Well, it's the only vintage Bond that I find strangely watchable. But I remember, when I was a child, I shared your sentiment. It's probably the weirdest Bond with the least caricatural/silly villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It was James Bond doing blaxploitation. It was actually the first time the franchise started copying other movies of genre's. it's a silly, low aiming film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Bond films usually are, Steef. Really!I was probably entertained by the Tarantino element in Live And Let Die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Thomas Newman should have the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Thomas Newman sucks.David Arnold will turn in another wonderful score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I was probably entertained by the Tarantino element in Live And Let Die.But Tarentino does it for either a laugh or a homage. I have a deep feeling Live and Let Die was being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 'Deep' has nothing to do with that dreck of a film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I was probably entertained by the Tarantino element in Live And Let Die.But Tarentino does it for either a laugh or a homage. I have a deep feeling Live and Let Die was being serious.Ah, it's a homage so it must be good. To be honest, I think Tarantino likes Live and Let Die. I don't think he would say, "Hey, this is bad because it's not meant to be funny!" Put Tarantino Presents on the Live And Let Die film poster and people will love this film. You know this to be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Im just glad Tarantini was pulled from Casino Royale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It's still uncertain that Arnold is doing Skyfall. He even admited it on Twitter today, that he doesn't have this job yet nor knows whether he eventually gets it. This doesn't work in his favour, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I'll say this again. We need some New-man for this job!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Rubbish. Arnold is as great as they come. It's the one thing that still excites me about a Bond film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I'll say this again. We need some New-man for this job!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Rubbish. Arnold is as great as they come. It's the one thing that still excites me about a Bond film.Aren't you a bit curious what other composer might do with the film? Does it have to be the same thing again and again?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davros72 1 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Title: boring.Everything else: Hooray! (especially Craig, Dench, and Arnold, IMHO)Did I miss it, or is there still no official word about the title song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Please be someone else. Tomorrow Never Dies and Casino Royale are all the Arnold Bond scores I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Aren't you a bit curious what other composer might do with the film? Does it have to be the same thing again and again?KarolWould you say the same thing about John Barry then? Would you like Indiana Jones to be scored by Terence Blanchard?Newman can score all the action films he wants, but I'm fond of each David Arnold score, so yeah I'm very much looking forward to this. Moreover, most of them each have their own signature, they're far from all the same as people seem to think. Plus, Bond is one of the few high-profile Arnold projects left we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Aren't you a bit curious what other composer might do with the film? Does it have to be the same thing again and again?KarolWould you say the same thing about John Barry then? Would you like Indiana Jones to be scored by Terence Blanchard?Newman can score all the action films he wants, but I'm fond of each David Arnold score, so yeah I'm very much looking forward to this. Moreover, most of them each have their own signature, they're far from all the same as people seem to think. Plus, Bond is one of the few high-profile Arnold projects left we get.But I didn't say anything about Arnold not doing a very good job. I like his scores very much. It's just that he's been doing them for 14 years now and I don't think there's much more he can do with the series that would sound new and fresh. Newman, on the other hand, never made this kind of a film and he's obviously massively talented and never got a chance to do this kind of a thing. It's an exciting possibility. Or even John Debney. Whoever, really. It's always interesting to hear a new take on James Bond theme.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I'm all for variety, but I'm just not interested in new takes in this case - they'd very likely turn out like another Conti or Kamen, quite enjoyable but nothing special, nothing as exciting as a Barry or an Arnold score. I'm all for Newman scoring an action film though. Also, I don't think you can say that there's nothing else Arnold can do with Bond, given that the last one was rather different in many areas from all the others.PS: it's not like you can never hear different takes, what with the Bond game scores and such. (And Debney, seriously? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Yes, it was a bit different and had a lot of thematic material (new thing for this series), but then again it ventured more into an area of more generic thriller sound of modern movies. I like it still though.EDIT: I just threw mentioned Debney for no reason. He did one brief cue that sounds like Bond for Iron Man.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3c8QhwapdIKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Can't say I agree with that assessment. It had some of Arnold's old thriller sound, but nothing contemporary generic like all the Bourne knock-offs in action thrillers or Beltrami knock-offs in horror thrillers. It had a great theme, and some of the best action ideas of the past couple of years. And the Barry homage in the opera cue was pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 What Barry homage?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Er, in Night at the Opera? You have heard the CD, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Yeah, but I don't own any Barry bond score besides Diamonds. So I might have missed it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Er, in Night at the Opera? You have heard the CD, right? Its not that barry like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Any track times?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Er, in Night at the Opera? You have heard the CD, right? Its not that barry likeSurely it is. It builds up in the same way like Gumbold's Safe, and adds the characteristic flute. Only it's better than Barry - Barry improved by Arnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 It'd be a shame that Thomas Newman wouldn't be able to score.Well I admire Thomas Newman for his work....he should definitely stay away from James Bond. We'd probably get something like The Adjustment Bureau if were to do a Bond film. The fact is, Newman is pretty weak with his action music. Bond just needs David Arnold again - KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Well said new boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Poorly said. Bond needs Thomas Newman, and you can't say his action music is weak when he has never really composed any. Nor can you call it a fact. His best work is for Sam Mendes, and if they got his cinematographer on board, I don't see why they didn't get his composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Yeah, but I don't own any Barry bond score besides Diamonds. So I might have missed it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Newman can score all the action films he wants, but I'm fond of each David Arnold score, so yeah I'm very much looking forward to this. Moreover, most of them each have their own signature, they're far from all the same as people seem to think. Plus, Bond is one of the few high-profile Arnold projects left we get.I did hear a few similarities between Arnold's DAD and CR scores.Yeah, but I don't own any Barry bond score besides Diamonds. So I might have missed it.Karol I don't own any of Barry's Bond scores. Or Barry scores in general (except his rejected Golden Child score). Ducks for cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Yeah, I guess people think if you've heard one Barry, you've heard them all.Barry's genius would be completely lost on you people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Poorly said. Bond needs Thomas Newman, and you can't say his action music is weak when he has never really composed any. Nor can you call it a fact. His best work is for Sam Mendes, and if they got his cinematographer on board, I don't see why they didn't get his composer.Newman's music in Adjustment Bureau, Jarhead, and Road to Perdition all have action beats which are far from the standard of what to expect for a Bond movie. Maybe he could have done well with Casino Royale, as that was light on action (for a Bond film) but I doubt Skyfall will be like that as the producers seem afraid to make a Bond movie that's not packed with action save for once in a while. As for Mendes not getting his composer, just look at Quantum. The director was able to get most of his guys on board the project, forcing out many of the Bond regulars, and look what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Marc Foster should have never even been an option. Who thinks "Let's get that guy who did Finding Neverland and the Kite Runner"? But then again, Same Mendes is kind of an odd choice too.I'll expect the worst, but with Deakins on board, at least the cinematography will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Poorly said. Bond needs Thomas Newman, and you can't say his action music is weak when he has never really composed any. Nor can you call it a fact. His best work is for Sam Mendes, and if they got his cinematographer on board, I don't see why they didn't get his composer.Exactly. He surely could deliver orchestral score, if asked. But because he worked on so many Oscar nominated dramas, everyone temp tracks his movies with those. I mean, look at The Good German and see how good he can be when forced to abandon his usual style. Or even Little Women: I know it's not a Bond type of music, but it shows his skill. He's one of the most unique film composers. And very versatile.Karol - who doesn't mind John Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 604 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Did I miss it, or is there still no official word about the title song?6:00 - that's the only rumour I've heard about the title song.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBlfT0ij5i4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I am quite sure T. Newman could pull this off, but since I am sort of a big DA fan (and not so much of TN), I hope he gets the job again and will be allowed to write theme song. I believe working with director like Mendes could reinvigorate Arnold, who is still capable of writing preety good original scores (check out his comedy scores which often consist of great Bondesque moments, sometimes even better than the ones in the Bond pictures). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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