David Coscina 3 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Something that is becoming quite evident in my interviews with other popular film composers is that John Williams is revered more than any other composer for film. It's quite amazing to hear this common sentiment from various composers with various backgrounds and styles. The universal appeal of maestro Williams cannot be emphasized more. Fans like Williams' music because it is tuneful, emotional ,exciting and communicative. Film composers laud Williams' music for its complexity, virtuosity, clarity and genius. I really wonder who future film composers will look up to this highly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 John Williams works will always be there to newer composers to look up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,083 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I've heard better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 Nothing like a smart incisive response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I really wonder who future film composers will look up to this highly?Why does it have to change? People are still inspired by Beethoven and Mozart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Among film composers I agree. But amongst the classical realm, he is really looked down upon. I've heard people say that every single Williams piece sounds like "Summon the Heroes." Obviously they're unaware of the maestro's flexibility in style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Well, every Chopin piano sonata sounds the same to me .And modern composers music sounds like random noises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 In 50 years, classical music buffs will start to realize that they missed the opportunity to enjoy our era's Mozart in John Williams. Pity for them. Lucky for us that we have and continue to value and enjoy his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I think most classical music people look down on Williams because he writes music which is meant to enhance another art form. They see film music as something that has a functional purpose. In the end, it's about the film and not about the music. This makes me wonder if classical music fans are looking down on the dance music of Prokofiev and Tchaikovsky.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Didn't Mozart write music to accompany theater stuff? That would make it film music of these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 13 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Didn't Mozart write music to accompany theater stuff? That would make it film music of these daysIn our times Mozart would be more like a rock star, not film composer Seriously though, I think Williams is criticized by the classical community (or some part of it) mainly for one reason - despite his virtuosity, his biggest accomplishements are considered too accessible (or even "populist") and too unoriginal (= often inspired by some other works or consisting an imitation of someone else's style) to be found TRUE ART, which is defined as something challenging (in other words: difficult and for that reason not much popular) and unique or at least very personal. If there is antything in JW's body of work that conforms to that definition, it's his serious compositions, but quite often "classical community" is unware of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Didn't Mozart write music to accompany theater stuff? That would make it film music of these daysNot sure Mozart did (unless you count his operas, but while opera has much in common with film music, the composer has more control there, and it's all "about" the music). But Mendelssohn and Grieg, among others, did. Some of the most popular classical pieces (Grieg's Peer Gynt suites) are nothing more than concert adaptations of stage music.As for Williams, I'm sure he's the top living film composer in the business. Of those in his generation, he's probably tied with Goldsmith - the one composer every single of the composers who were present at last year's film music symposium mentioned and praised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 I wish I could find an example of a contemporary concert composer who hasn't committed the same "offenses" that classical buffs deride Williams of. I also cannot find anyone in the concert hall composing music that is more moving, detailed, and frankly kick ass than Williams. John Adams gets close but I don't hear any greater technique that Williams hasn't displayed. Don't get me wrong, I love concert music, but to go back to someone who really rocked it out would be Shostakovich, Prokofiev or Bartok for me. Or Vaughan Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,476 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I feel like an old-timer when I scoff at modern film music.I wonder how the next generation will look back at the music of JW, say 50-100 years from now if the Earth is still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I feel like an old-timer when I scoff at modern film music.I wonder how the next generation will look back at the music of JW, say 50-100 years from now if the Earth is still around.As a "golden age". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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