Label Threads The Official Varese Sarabande Thread

[KittBash 282]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

I'm guessing we can never expect a Williams Club title again, now that they've had Mike make definitive editions of all 3 Williams scores they own perpetuity rights to (Cowboys, Stanley & Iris, and Presumed Innocent).

 

So who would have Heartbeeps at the moment... or would that be up for grabs by another label at this point?

[Jay 37,287]

Varese never had perpetuity rights to it. 

 

Any label who wants to license it from Universal Pictures could do so. 

[Yavar Moradi 2,590]

27 minutes ago, KittBash said:

 

So who would have Heartbeeps at the moment... or would that be up for grabs by another label at this point?

Little reason for Varese to get perpetuity rights for something they originally released strictly as a limited edition in the first place. Almost no Club premieres are held by them in perpetuity, which is why LLL was able to expand Magic for example.

 

A rare exception seems to possibly be The Ballad of Cable Hogue, since they’ve sold that for download.

 

Yavar

[crocodile 7,984]

11 hours ago, publicist said:

Hollow Man? Botnick mentioned this a while ago.

I actually do hope it's this. Haven't got any release of that.

 

Shame about the sudden closure of their international store though...

 

Karol

[Amer 2,080]

It would be awesome if its HOLLOW MAN. With LLL's Goldsmith at Fox Vol 5 2CD set just released and HOLLOW MAN would be just terrific. And Intrada also a Goldsmith lined up so who knows...? 

[Richard Penna 3,671]

Yeah, Hollow Man pretty likely based on the colours. Probably not a title for me as I rented the DVD with iso score but never really attached to it. One tidbit if you listen to the end of his commentary though, is that he says he'd like to score a sequel if it ever happened, so there's no ambiguity that he enjoyed doing this one.

 

I did think it could be 13th Warrior earlier, but the DVD colour on my phone and PC look a bit different, and the purpleish doesn't really work. I only mention that title as I relistened to the unreleased cues on YouTube a few weeks ago and it's jumped up my list a bit.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,498]

Admittedly, it's not one of Jerry's finest achievements, but "Isabelle Comes Back" is a brilliant cue.

[Marian Schedenig 8,173]

2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Admittedly, it's not one of Jerry's finest achievements, but "Isabelle Comes Back" is a brilliant cue.

 

I do think it's one of his finest late career achievements.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,498]

Agreed. Even Jerry's worst is better than some composers' best.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

Hollow Man is brilliant. It is often lined up among his late auto-pilot scores, which is ridiculous.

[publicist 4,643]

The old album is fine, but why not (given the competition).

[Richard Penna 3,671]

I've got a few tracks - the opening, and the elevator scene, plus the sprinkler scene from the iso score.

 

Nothing particularly wrong or generic about the score - just doesn't really do anything for me.

[Corellian2019 383]

Am I the only one who is reminded of the opening credits from Basic Instinct when listening to the main theme from Hollow Man?

[publicist 4,643]

You could also be reminded of 'The Haunting', which employed a similar chord progression on high strings.

 

The main theme on 'Hollow Man' is purely perfunctory, though. The score's true core ideas are the call to arms for the good lab guys (following the opening pizzicato in 'Isabelle Comes Back') and a dark three-note motif for Kevin Bacon's invisible man (opening of 'Find Him'). It's a thriller score constantly reworking these small motivic ideas to the point of where it's staggering by today's standards that a composer could actually possess the ability to apply his musical intellect to such a degree for a score written in a handful of weeks. 'Hollow Man' came out in summer 2000, when Goldsmith just had a cancer operation. Viewed in this light, it's a truly remarkable piece of work (even if it may have limited appeal due to not being an expansive adventure score).

[Amer 2,080]

[ In HOLLOW MAN] When Kevin Bacon attacks the woman in her room and we cut to Elizabeth Sue driving her car; the music is charged and violent. But Goldsmith keeps on scoring it despite the fact the scene has changed while the audience doesnt need to see whats ongoing but they feel the whole terrifying thing musicaly. That is pure genius. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,498]

On 12/09/2022 at 6:23 PM, EhTar said:

Should colors on the pic be a clue ?

 

 

I'm not quite sure how people get HOLLOW MAN from this.

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Corellian2019 said:

Am I the only one who is reminded of the opening credits from Basic Instinct when listening to the main theme from Hollow Man?

No, you're not 

[crocodile 7,984]

31 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

I'm not quite sure how people get HOLLOW MAN from this.

 

Karol

[Naïve Old Fart 9,498]

Thanks, @crocodile.

I see it, now.

[Richard Penna 3,671]

It's pretty obvious from the DVD too: (not at all from the OST cover though)

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,498]

You lot are going to be laughing on the other side of your faces when you discover that it's FERGULLY 2.

[A. A. Ron 1,738]

I mean the color of the poster gave away The Bourne Identity in the last batch.

[publicist 4,643]

2 hours ago, Richard Penna said:

It's pretty obvious from the DVD too: (not at all from the OST cover though)

 

 

Yikes, that's awful.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,498]

Indeed.

[Jay 37,287]

I wonder if they are dropping a clue today or not; Usually their Monday posts tells us they'll give us clues on Wednesday, but this one didn't.  Plus, there's only 1 title

[crocodile 7,984]

The clue...

 

 

Karol 

 

[Jay 37,287]

I guess that could be a clue for The Hollow Man?

[Richard Penna 3,671]

How is that a clue for Hollow Man? 

[Jay 37,287]

I dunno, something something being on the internet all day sucks your soul out?

[Richard Penna 3,671]

Original image at alamy: https://www.alamy.com/side-view-photo-of-a-man-with-scoliosis-hunched-back-posture-position-defect-curvature-or-incorrect-spine-image462536734.html

[Marian Schedenig 8,173]

Some version of The Hunchback of Notre-Dame is the best thing I could come up with for that picture. I don't see how it could it be Hollow Man (but I don't see that from the colours either, not even with all the posters and covers that have been posted above).

[Richard Penna 3,671]

The image keywords talk about posture, etc, but that could be misleading - might be something else about the image they looked for, or maybe it's just a really tenuous clue.

[Marian Schedenig 8,173]

Facebook comments suggest something to do with hacking, including Sneakers. Do we have a prediction which label would be handling that?

[Jay 37,287]

Varese pretty much only works on titles they already have perpetuity rights to for Club batches.  I believe Dracula and HTTYD2 are the only exceptions to this in the past decade.

 

Any label that wanted to co-license Sneakers from Sony Music and Universal Pictures could do so.

[Marian Schedenig 8,173]

So what hacking scores would be in their territory?

[Jaaaackified 81]

48 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

How is that a clue for Hollow Man? 

the content on the screen is nowhere to be seen -> invisible -> Hollow Man? 

 

quite far-fetched but this is the only connection I can think of

 

or it could be the man in the picture staring at the screen as a hint since the hollow man himself did some spying and peeking (I've just googled the plot so I could be wrong)

[Richard Penna 3,671]

Never mind, we were entirely wrong anyway.

[Jaaaackified 81]

 

Ok, so this is what I just found out. I guess Hollow Man it is?

[Richard Penna 3,671]

 

It appears that RSD has somewhat ruined their clues thing. If Hollow Man was a stretch, what's that got to do with the pic?

[Jay 37,287]

That's coming in November

[Jaaaackified 81]

Those are the batch for Black Friday this year, the pic is a hint for a release happening this week. 

[Richard Penna 3,671]

Oh, I assumed that was the title as the colours match perfectly.

[Jay 37,287]

You know what?

The colors DO match, don't they.

 

 

 

And also.... in the film Meryl Streep's character's spine is all messed up... like the guy in the photo.

 

I'll be damned.

[Yavar Moradi 2,590]

2 hours ago, crocodile said:

The clue...

 

 

See to me, this guy is doing a web SEARCH... using an accursed laptop trackpad without a MOUSE... maybe he's even looking to purchase one of those nice wireless ones for himself? In which case this would be MOUSE HUNT, one of my top 5 Silvestri scores and well deserving of a Varese Deluxe Edition!

 

Yavar

[mstrox 6,647]

Idk what a reiver is, maybe he’s doing that 

[Disco Stu 15,495]

3 minutes ago, mstrox said:

Idk what a reiver is, maybe he’s doing that 

A reiver is a thief.  In the film they steal the boy’s grandfather’s car, so they’re “reivers.”

[mstrox 6,647]

Holy moly, Reivers confirmed!!!  
 

 

[DangerMotif 1,037]

I would assume based off the new thread that it’s Rudy, the hunched back photo also matches up.

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

Well, Notre Dame colors are blue and gold so Rudy it is!!  Fingers crossed!  Love the movie and score.

Well, just saw the post in the FSM thread, that settles it!!  Artwork on the Facebook post is stunning!  😎🙌🏻

[publicist 4,643]

7 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

A reiver is a thief.  

 

As anyone should know who listened to Burgess Meredith's Boston Pops narration, where he spells it out clearly!

[Naïve Old Fart 9,498]

Is the plant in the background a clue?