Ollie 859 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 This score is one of those that deserves it's own thread.I'm not suprised, I somewhat expected FSM to take a crack at some of the old Rhino titles. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=65579&archive=0I wonder if fixing the the North By Northwest CD is on their agenda? And it might lend some credence to the ultimate Ben Hur set that everyone thinks FSM is going to do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 125 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nice News and good to know too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Holy crap.Great news, especially that they're going back to the elements and not just redoing the Rhino. That said, releasing some of the stuff previously not available in the EU countries is also awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Well, it is my favorite non-Williams score but I do have the Rhino which I thought was complete... what's going to be disc 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 Alternates and the original LP presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 D'OH! I have to buy this yet again??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Hmmm... the alternates could be interesting, I don't care about the LP presentation which is just redundant. I guess I'll have time to think it over. Being a 2 CD set is bound to be about $30, which is "Black Sunday" plus some other cheaper score. Do the labels want us to starve or something? Don't they know that if we don't buy food and die of hunger we can't keep buying scores anyway??I am glad this is going back to print, it is a masterpiece that everyone should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,476 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 This is a movie and a score that I've totally avoided in my lifetime. I feel I should at least see the movie considering Spielberg's involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 This is getting insane.Was the LP a new recording or just different edits of the film recordings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 428 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 This is getting insane.Was the LP a new recording or just different edits of the film recordings?Different edits, same recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Well it's my favourite Goldsmith score so I might get it if there is a significant improvement in sound quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Love this score, but I'm perfectly happy with the Rhino release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,548 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 The Rhino release always sounded great to my ears, but this is probably much like the Superman: The Movie situation, so I think the improvement on sound quality will be significant. Also, the LP presentation was one of Goldsmith's best so it's really nice to have it properly represented on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 374 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Oh, I'm for sure getting this on Day 1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 The Rhino release always sounded great to my ears, but this is probably much like the Superman: The Movie situation, so I think the improvement on sound quality will be significant.In the case of Superman, Rhino used second-generation master material which had worse sound quality. It wasn't until the release was in its final stages that the DVD team found the original master which FSM proceeded to use in 2008. The sound quality improvement was only logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,442 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 This is one score I've never heard in my life, and a movie I've never seen either. I'm interested, but only because this is like the 13th month of the year of great Goldsmith releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hmm, I'll consider this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I may be biased, but really I can't praise this score enough, anyone who doesn't have it should really consider this upcoming release, if money allows it of course. I'm a bit surprised by tha amount of people that haven't listened to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 They haven't seen the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 You said don't go into the light!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 1,492 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Cross over, Children. All are welcome. All are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 27,216 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 So this should be an unlimited release, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Wojo, go into the light. There is peace and serenity, in the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 2 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Oh....this year is going to be soooooo expensive!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankV 168 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 In the case of Superman, Rhino used second-generation master material which had worse sound quality. It wasn't until the release was in its final stages that the DVD team found the original master which FSM proceeded to use in 2008. The sound quality improvement was only logical.According to the back cover of the Rhino Poltergeist CD they used the best possible analog source material. I've heard however that the score was recorded digitally.So this should be an unlimited release, right?Maybe, maybe not. I guess we know when it's summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 2 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 In the case of Superman, Rhino used second-generation master material which had worse sound quality. It wasn't until the release was in its final stages that the DVD team found the original master which FSM proceeded to use in 2008. The sound quality improvement was only logical.I think I remember Matessino saying that it was even as late as the day of release of the Rhino edition that the original masters were found.That must have been a hard pill to swallow!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Yes! Not picking this up on the secondary market for such a long time finally pays off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 There are so many releases right now that it seems hard to chastize this triple-release practice (and it makes sense from a business standpoint), but i'm really getting sour when i have to re-buy boatloads of perfectly fine albums because a new source is slightly better or some odds and ends are added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I wonder if fixing the the North By Northwest CD is on their agenda? And it might lend some credence to the ultimate Ben Hur set that everyone thinks FSM is going to do as well.I'm a very big fan of North by Northwest, but I'm actually very satisfied by the Varèse rerecording, which is probably as good as they come, so a redoing of the original wouldn't lie well in the market nowadays I'd guess (though hopefully I'm wrong, of course). I would buy an FSM Ben-Hur, though, since I, well er, don't have that one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Well it's my favourite Goldsmith score so I might get it if there is a significant improvement in sound qualitySometimes, I don't think you read things. They've gone back to the original master tapes and our specialty labels have been known to produce great sound when using the original masters. So no doubt that this release of the score will have improved sound quality.Never heard Poltergeist, but being a Goldsmith fan I'll pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,484 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Well it's my favourite Goldsmith score so I might get it if there is a significant improvement in sound qualitySometimes, I don't think you read things. They've gone back to the original master tapes and our specialty labels have been known to produce great sound when using the original masters. So no doubt that this release of the score will have improved sound quality.Improved by what standards is the question. The Rhino release doesn't have bad sound, you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Indeed. The rhino stills sounds pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 195 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Perfect, I'm ordering it immediately when it comes out. I'm really looking forward to it all - the sound improvement, the new packaging and liners ... I think it's going to be a treasure. Hell yeah, 2010 is going to be expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 374 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I'm just happy to finally be able to own it on CD since it has been out of print since I have wanted it. I just have the Amazon download as of now. The current sound quality isn't bad at all, but I can definitely see how it could be improved to sound crisper and more alive, perhaps mixed better too. Next to Gremlins, Poltergeist is probably my favorite Goldsmith score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 The Rhino release always sounded great to my ears, but this is probably much like the Superman: The Movie situation, so I think the improvement on sound quality will be significant.The Rhino Superman sounds like crap, whereas Poltergeist sounds absolutely fine. I'll wait until I can compare before I decide whether to get this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Unbelievably good news. Best scary movie of all time, and absolutely one of Goldsmith's finest hours (well, two hours), with "The Light" being one of his finest cues. Somehow this milieu just fits his particular style perfectly. Can't wait to get this one.This is a movie and a score that I've totally avoided in my lifetime. I feel I should at least see the movie considering Spielberg's involvement.Actually, it's pretty fascinating seeing Spielberg's trademark magic (which is unmistakably imprinted on this movie) woven into such an intrinsically terrifying subject. It's one of the things that makes the film so special. According to the back cover of the Rhino Poltergeist CD they used the best possible analog source material.This source . . . is clean.- Uni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Love this score, but I'm perfectly happy with the Rhino release.Me too. Plus, these companys should have released these special editions as frequently as they are coming now, about 5 years ago.I'd guess that most of us were more much willing to spend cash on them then,than now. Looks like they missed their chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 The Rhino release always sounded great to my ears, but this is probably much like the Superman: The Movie situation, so I think the improvement on sound quality will be significant.The Rhino Superman sounds like crap, whereas Poltergeist sounds absolutely fine. I'll wait until I can compare before I decide whether to get this one.I never understood the Superman issue, while it's clearly not perfect, I still think it sounds pretty good. Good enough for me not to buy TBB just for improved quality for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 There was a difference in sound with Superman, but at the time it sounded good enough to me. But the Blue Box does have major improvements in the sound. However liked I mentioned to Diego about The Blue Max, if you can't or don't want the Blue Box, the Rhino is fine.I do have some slight issues with the Rhino Poltergeist, but I won't know if it's something that FSM can address or if it's just how the score was recorded.I know Lukas is usually upfront about stuff, so I trust that if they are going back to redo Poltergeist that the sound will be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Even I could tell that the Rhino edition for Superman didn't have great sound, especially after hearing the DVD isolated score from the 2000 release. I'm glad FSM was able to use the same elements that the 2000 DVD isolated score used and released the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 181 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I'm aware that the Rhino Superman CD is not great quality wise, however I cannot afford the Blue Box.I really think FSM should release Superman: The Movie as an individual title, and not just as part of the Blue Box.This way, the great work they have done remastering this score could be heard beyond the collectors market.I perfectly understand that their license agreement may not allow it, of course, but I can wish.As for Poltergeist:It sounds good to me on the Rhino release, but I'd guess there are better sources available now to FSM, so it's on my want list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 Lukas had mentioned the possibility of selling the titles separately once the first boxed set sold out, but I think they decided to just reissue the whole set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Considering Lukas' post on FSM regarding Turner titles being reissued internationally, I wonder if this could see any European/Japanese issue of anything from TBB. Probably not, especially as Lukas said the Rhino masters are often used, but I live in hope.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,442 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I'm aware that the Rhino Superman CD is not great quality wise, however I cannot afford the Blue Box.Hey, I know where you can nab one for $40! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 181 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I'm aware that the Rhino Superman CD is not great quality wise, however I cannot afford the Blue Box.Hey, I know where you can nab one for $40!I really wish it was actually the case. It would be sooo gone !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 1,492 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 This is getting way off the original topic, but...I enjoyed the sound quality of the Blue Box, especially for the Helicopter Rescue cue, but for some reason, the awesome cellos in the ostinato buildup of the Main Title seemed to have more oomph in the Rhino release, or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 EDIT: Wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 125 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I have to re-listen to Poltergeist. I only have an old CD-R of it. I know that I liked the End Titles and the track "The Light". Are there any other tracks that are a "must" listen for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I have to re-listen to Poltergeist. I only have an old CD-R of it. I know that I liked the End Titles and the track "The Light". Are there any other tracks that are a "must" listen for me?All of them really, but 'Rebirth' is amazing. It's a fine, fine score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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