Omen II 1,235 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I went to see David Arnold with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra on Thursday at the Barbican. Someone has craftily captured almost the whole of their performance of Independence Day - some of you will surely enjoy it, as did I. Nicholas Dodd conducts, while you can see the composer seated at the keyboard just to his left. Watch out too for a very big hammer in the percussion section; I wouldn't want to get in the way of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Harald Kloser needs to demonstrate his superiority with his own concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I'd like to hear another from the little Wanker who often trails after Kloser on his scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 INDEPENDENCE DAY 2 CD SET - FINAL 50 UNITS We are down to just 50 units (of the 5000 run) on ID4. Grab it while you still can! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!http://lalalandrecords.com/Site/IndependenceDay.html https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10154122826343755 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Time for a reissue with the film version of Target Remains! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I might grab myself a second copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 If you feel compelled to purchase these CDs, please do so in an orderly fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Vultures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 You still got the OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 You wanna borrow the album? Justin, you don't have a tape deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Well this sure took its time selling out considering it is so revered in film music circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Harald Kloser's score will sell out in a day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 51 minutes ago, Incanus said: Well this sure took its time selling out considering it is so revered in film music circles. How many were pressed? 5000? 10.000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Part of it has broken off into three dozen other pieces. Smaller than the whole, but yet 15 miles in with themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I don't understand. Where does all this come from? How do you get funding for something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Well you don't actually think they spend $20,000 on a booklet, $30,000 on a jewel case, do ya? Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Quote INDEPENDENCE DAY 2 CD SET - FINAL 50 UNITS We are down to just 50 units (of the 5000 run) on ID4. Grab it while you still can! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! http://lalalandrecords.com/Site/IndependenceDay.html 9 hours ago, Stefancos said: How many were pressed? 5000? 10.000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Jason, not everyone is analy retentive like you, nor does everyone read and remember every single post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Nor does everyone scroll ten posts back to read information on earlier posts. It's just not fair being expected to remember anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Indeed! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 For what? I don't remember writing a post to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 But you had my back! I appreciate it man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 This is JWFan. Or, as some of us have come to call it: the freak show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Checkmate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Now it's sold out. Took a long time to sell out that title but cool that they finally did. I still love the set to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Peace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I bought two extra copies. I bet Fox bought up the remaining few in case people get curious about it when the sequel is released and they're trying to hide the fact that another composer wrote a better score 20 years ago. I bought two extra copies. I bet Fox bought up the remaining few in case people get curious about it when the sequel is released and they're trying to hide the fact that another composer wrote a better score 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Sir, I...I think you should listen to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Is there anything on the 1996 OST in terms of mixing/edits/takes that is not on the LLL release? Ta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,003 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 The Day We Fight Back was slightly microedited for the OST if I remember correctly. It's a slightly shorter version of the original version. This particular edit is not on the LLL set but I don't think there's any unreleased material in that track: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 There's nothing on the OST not on the LLL. The Day We Fight Back is just shortened. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 On 25/07/2020 at 8:30 AM, Jay said: There's nothing on the OST not on the LLL. The Day We Fight Back is just shortened. On 25/07/2020 at 7:43 AM, crocodile said: The Day We Fight Back was slightly microedited for the OST if I remember correctly. It's a slightly shorter version of the original version. This particular edit is not on the LLL set but I don't think there's any unreleased material in that track: Bye bye OST, then. Thanks Crocs and Jays! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,065 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 It's a glorious microedit! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's a glorious microedit! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 More edits, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 1 minute ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: More edits, the better. Edits Keeler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's a glorious microedit! But does it contribute to the LISTENING EXPERIENCE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,065 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 It probably flows better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Sorry if these couple things have been discussed already, I couldn't find it if it has been.... I've been slowly watching the film and listening to the LLL release, and looking along at @Jay's fun spreadsheet. A Couple details I have noticed: There are 3 endings to 7M2 Base Attack / Dogfight; The assumed Original version, with one long sustained major chord. LLL Disc 1, Track 12b (as well as the OST, and the World Records Bootleg) An alternate version, which has the dun-dundundun-duunnnnn (quarter note, quarter note triplet, whole note) rhythm, but the instruments playing the rhythm are split into a major chord. Only available on the "Other Boot", track 15 Base Attack - Dogfight. The 3rd version, the film version, which has the rhythm mentioned above, but the instruments playing the rhythm are playing the tonic of the chord, in octaves, rather than forming a chord. Only on LLL Disc 2, Track 12, and heard in the film. This is also the ending on the Live-to-Picture performances (as it should be, since it's the film version). In the film, 8M3 The Big Tamale first plays almost entirely without choir, then segues into somewhere around 0:11 of the same cue but with choir this time and plays to the end. Film edit: 8M3 The Big Tamale (no choir) 0:00-0:18 / 8M3 The Big Tamale 0:11-END This means there's a 'no choir' version of 8M3 which remains unreleased, but which can mostly be heard in the film. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Woah! I never noticed either of those things! Thanks for bumping this thread, reminded me how much I freaking love this score... MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Definitely near the top of my most loved scores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 This thread brings back memories. I believe this was released the day I met John Williams. A very good day. MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Also unreleased: The Darkest Day is similar in that some of the choir is dialed out in the film (rather, it's dialed in for the shot of the destroyer over New York reaching so far it fades into the horizon) The cue Alien Ship Powers Up is cut in half in the film, its opening replaced with a section of the End Titles, but what's intact ("you really think you can do all that bullshit you just said?") is a version without the choir. There are two versions of the cue Rescue (on the LLL as Target Remains / Rescue, it's the softer music for David / Connie and then Hiller taking the chopper to fly away), one where the ending string rhythm that leads to the closing brass fanfare, is muddled a bit in the performance. One of the boots, can't recall which, has the cleaner performance. There's also a cue of a basic snare drum pattern for when Hiller arrives at Area 51 with the alien, exciting Dr. Soong...I mean Dr. Okun, and the one thing I wish the LLL had, which was the pounding snare drums that open the cue Victory (titled 'Independence Day' on the various boots) It's my favorite film score, and the one that made me a fan of film music's magic. MrJosh and Kühni 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 . MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 6 hours ago, NL197 said: Also unreleased: The Darkest Day is similar in that some of the choir is dialed out in the film (rather, it's dialed in for the shot of the destroyer over New York reaching so far it fades into the horizon) The cue Alien Ship Powers Up is cut in half in the film, its opening replaced with a section of the End Titles, but what's intact ("you really think you can do all that bullshit you just said?") is a version without the choir. There are two versions of the cue Rescue (on the LLL as Target Remains / Rescue, it's the softer music for David / Connie and then Hiller taking the chopper to fly away), one where the ending string rhythm that leads to the closing brass fanfare, is muddled a bit in the performance. One of the boots, can't recall which, has the cleaner performance. There's also a cue of a basic snare drum pattern for when Hiller arrives at Area 51 with the alien, exciting Dr. Soong...I mean Dr. Okun, and the one thing I wish the LLL had, which was the pounding snare drums that open the cue Victory (titled 'Independence Day' on the various boots) It's my favorite film score, and the one that made me a fan of film music's magic. Thanks so much for the info. I can't believe I didn't notice the choir gone from a lot of The Darkest Day! I'll pay attention to the rest of that as I go through it. NL197 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marc 768 Posted August 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2023 Some seriously intense horn & trumpet action in this cue !! JTN, aj_vader, BrotherSound and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,351 Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Nice! Marc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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