ChuckM 1 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 I find some of the track names in John Powell's Green Zone to be rather humorous. They included "Googles" (as a verb) and "WTF." lol1. Opening Book2. 1st WMD Raid3. Traffic Jam4. Meeting Raid5. Helicopter / Freddy Runs6. Questions7. Miller Googles8. Truth / Magellan / Attack9. Mobilize / Find Al Rawi10. Evac Preps Part 111. Evac Preps Part 212. Attack and Chase13. WTF14. Chaos / EmailAnyone else listened to it yet? It strikes me as very Bourne-ish (pretty much what I was expecting), but even less thematic. I'm not hugely impressed yet, but then most Powell scores seem to take a while to grow on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Like I've said before, it works as standalone action pieces, but nothing thematic that I can pick up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,670 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Yeah I was surprised to see the name 'Miller Googles'. What an exhilirating scene that must be.I gave a passing listen the other day, and in a way I enjoyed it as something in the background, but not really anything more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 wtf lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Like I've said before, it works as standalone action pieces, but nothing thematic that I can pick up on.Intelligent thematic action scoring died with Jerry Goldsmith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Like I've said before, it works as standalone action pieces, but nothing thematic that I can pick up on.Intelligent thematic action scoring died with Jerry Goldsmith!Williams is still alive, isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 My point stands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 This is pretty random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 My point stands!Are you implying that John Williams is.....stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,497 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 My point stands!Are you implying that John Williams is.....stupid?No. Stefan's arguement is that Goldsmith arguably wrote better "action" music than Williams, and I am forced to agree with him, even though Williams will always be my favourite composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Goldsmith was able to create very effective high energy, masculine, powerful action cues that usually included some really nice counterpoint writing and interplay between parts (brass especially). As well as some mind blowing chromaticism (Planet of the Apes, Total Recall, etc.).Williams probably didn't always match Goldsmith in terms of energy in his action writing, but the craftsmanship goes way beyond Goldsmith in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,670 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'd tend to agree that Goldsmith's action writing was better in some circumstances.There's one cue in PoA that's always bothered me - the bit in The Werewolf Scene where Lupin is in the final stages of transforming and the music is reduced to these metal things clanging and those drums rumbling away. If that bit was meant to sound random/chaotic, it didn't work for me. Just sounds like a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I think their approaches to writing action differ a lot because of what they're asked to score. Goldsmith got a lot of stuff that I doubt Williams would want to touch (like RAMBO), and because of the relationships John struck up, it meant that some of the huge projects around (the Star Wars, the Indys) were off limits to everyone else. I don't really like to favour one over the other, as both had moments when they were absolutely at the top of the game. But both generally submitted scores that 90% were appropriate for the films concerned and enhanced the films themselves.That said, 'The Battle of Yavin' is probably the best action track in the history of the world, although who knows what someone like Jerry would've done had he got a scene that good to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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