JW cues that sound like they were written for a concert hall

[indy4 152]

I'm talking about those cues that, while supporting the film, work apart from it as a concert work. Here's what I can think of off the top of my head:

The Map Room: Dawn

Journey to the Island

The Jungle Chase

The Land Race

[Docteur Qui 1,248]

Hmmm, don't agree about Jungle Chase, at least not compared to tracks like "The Basket Chase" or "The Asteroid Field" (the latter of which actually did become a concert piece). It's a bit too thematically driven and incoherent to work out of context.

I'd say "Quidditch, Third Year" would (and does) work well away from the film; its fugal and contrapuntal devices are quite advanced and sophisticated for an action cue. And it'd just be bloody brilliant to hear live.

[KingPin 194]

Hmmm, don't agree about Jungle Chase, at least not compared to tracks like "The Basket Chase" or "The Asteroid Field" (the latter of which actually did become a concert piece). It's a bit too thematically driven and incoherent to work out of context.

I'd say "Quidditch, Third Year" would (and does) work well away from the film; its fugal and contrapuntal devices are quite advanced and sophisticated for an action cue. And it'd just be bloody brilliant to hear live.

Basket Chase was also extracted as a concert piece. I have seen Williams conduct it live and it has been recorded by the Boston Pops.

Quidditch Third Year has also been conducted live by the composer on several occassions, but as the first section of a cut-and-paste medley he refers to as "Witches, Wands, and Wizards," which also includes Chasing Scabbers, Hagrid's Friendly Bird (the solo flute feature part of Secrets of the Castle), and The Snow Fight, and has been commercially recorded by the City of Prague Philharmonic.

[Docteur Qui 1,248]

Didn't know about Basket Chase. Did know about Quidditch though, I've actually got that signature score.

I'll repeat though, it does sound like a complex 20th-century concert piece and not just some action underscore.

[indy4 152]

Agreed about "Quidditch, Third Year." Absolutely fantastic, and it does seem to function as a concert work. I'll also add "Growing Up in Paris" from Sabrina.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

Hmmm, don't agree about Jungle Chase, at least not compared to tracks like "The Basket Chase" or "The Asteroid Field" (the latter of which actually did become a concert piece). It's a bit too thematically driven and incoherent to work out of context.

Adventures of mutt is part of the jungle chase...

Anyways, i think he worte a concert version of the jungle chase, from one little sample in the staff of kings game

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,476]

Exsultate Justi from Empire of the Sun.

Which I thought was totally out of place in the movie. I guess this WAS composed as a concert piece, but I consider it the exception where a piece is entirely weak in the film it supports and enjoyable apart from the film.

Destruction of Krypton is so grand and operatic. Definitely concert hall material.

[Romão 1,931]

Hell's Kitchen from Sleepers

T-Rex Rescue and Finale

Everybody Runs!

As the Water, from Memoirs of a Geisha

[Henry B 49]

Anyways, i think he worte a concert version of the jungle chase, from one little sample in the staff of kings game

There's an alternate version of the last part of "Jungle Chase" which we've heard in "Staff of Kings" and one of the DVD docs. No concert piece.

[Red 73]

All of Jane Eyre.

[indy4 152]

"Jim's New Life" is another one.

[Datameister 1,394]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the climactic cues from E.T. Their construction and utter lack of Mickey-Mousing makes them feel a lot like a concert suite to me - and, of course, they were adapted into several.

[indy4 152]

I considered "Adventures on Earth," but the beginning portion definitely feels like it was written to support a film rather than stand on its own (although that doesn't make it less awesome in my mind). Also, when the bikes take off and the flying theme plays, the first phrase of the B theme is not repeated like it is normally. I think that was definitely a result of the scene being to short to fit a repetition in (this would actually be a case where I wouldn't mind some editing).

[Bowie 45]

I take it we are excluding title/end credits pieces and tracks that were formed into concert arrangements on album? Trouble is, without having seen the majority of Williams scored films, many cues are hard to determine whether they were actually used fully and properly within the context of underscore, without already knowing so.

I'd have to say Journey to the Island is up there, as is Aunt Marge's Waltz (as 'thieving' a cue as it may be), Becoming a Geisha, Jewish Town (Krakow Ghetto, Winter '41), Abandoned in the Woods, Out to Sea & The Shark Cage Fugue

[Docteur Qui 1,248]

Hmmm, don't agree about Jungle Chase, at least not compared to tracks like "The Basket Chase" or "The Asteroid Field" (the latter of which actually did become a concert piece). It's a bit too thematically driven and incoherent to work out of context.

Adventures of mutt is part of the jungle chase...

I know, but as I said, the whole thing is just too schizophrenic to work as a standalone piece. That's the bit where my opinion comes in.

[Morn 7]

Hogwarts Forever.

[Luke Skywalker 1,284]

Hmmm, don't agree about Jungle Chase, at least not compared to tracks like "The Basket Chase" or "The Asteroid Field" (the latter of which actually did become a concert piece). It's a bit too thematically driven and incoherent to work out of context.

Adventures of mutt is part of the jungle chase...

I know, but as I said, the whole thing is just too schizophrenic to work as a standalone piece. That's the bit where my opinion comes in.

i dont think it is different than 'the forest battle'.

[TownerFan 4,548]

I too think we should cross off "End Credits" suites and specific concert arrangements tracks, as they're written purposefully in a concert-like manner.

That being said, here's some cues that always struck me as particularly "concert-like" while being written instead to underscore specific scenes:

"Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra"

"The Trip to Earth"

"Schindler's Workforce"

"The Reunion" (from A.I.)

"The Little People Work"

"Battle in the Snow"

[Docteur Qui 1,248]

i dont think it is different than 'the forest battle'.

I don't see what that has to do anything. Just because "Forest Battle" has concert arrangement doesn't mean I like it and think it works by itself.

The question wasn't "which pieces have concert arrangements". It's "which ones SOUND like they are concert arrangements", with an opinion to explain.

[Datameister 1,394]

Hogwarts Forever.

It was written for the concert hall. It's part of the Children's Suite and was never intended to be used in the film.

[Naïve Old Fart 6,637]

Hmmm, don't agree about Jungle Chase, at least not compared to tracks like "The Basket Chase" or "The Asteroid Field" (the latter of which actually did become a concert piece). It's a bit too thematically driven and incoherent to work out of context.

I'd say "Quidditch, Third Year" would (and does) work well away from the film; its fugal and contrapuntal devices are quite advanced and sophisticated for an action cue. And it'd just be bloody brilliant to hear live.

Basket Chase was also extracted as a concert piece. I have seen Williams conduct it live and it has been recorded by the Boston Pops.

Quidditch Third Year has also been conducted live by the composer on several occassions, but as the first section of a cut-and-paste medley he refers to as "Witches, Wands, and Wizards," which also includes Chasing Scabbers, Hagrid's Friendly Bird (the solo flute feature part of Secrets of the Castle), and The Snow Fight, and has been commercially recorded by the City of Prague Philharmonic.

Which c.d. is "The Basket Chase" on?

Hell's Kitchen from Sleepers

T-Rex Rescue and Finale

Everybody Runs!

As the Water, from Memoirs of a Geisha

Williams has conducted The L.S.O. in a performance of "Hell's Kitchen". It was one of two encores on 4th. July. 1998, at The Barbican.

[Marian Schedenig 5,520]

Which c.d. is "The Basket Chase" on?

Williams on Williams

[Naïve Old Fart 6,637]

Which c.d. is "The Basket Chase" on?

Williams on Williams

Ah! Thanks for that, Marian.

[BTR1701 55]

I'm talking about those cues that, while supporting the film, work apart from it as a concert work. Here's what I can think of off the top of my head:

The Map Room: Dawn

Journey to the Island

The Jungle Chase

The Land Race

Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchetra

Parade of the Slave Children

Leia's Theme

Luke & Leia

TIE Fighter Attack

Han Solo & The Princess

Close Encounters - The Visitors/Bye

Jaws - The Shark Cage Fugue

Jaws - Tourists on the Menu

Just about any of the End Titles to various Star Wars and Indiana Jones films

[Romão 1,931]

Hmmm, don't agree about Jungle Chase, at least not compared to tracks like "The Basket Chase" or "The Asteroid Field" (the latter of which actually did become a concert piece). It's a bit too thematically driven and incoherent to work out of context.

I'd say "Quidditch, Third Year" would (and does) work well away from the film; its fugal and contrapuntal devices are quite advanced and sophisticated for an action cue. And it'd just be bloody brilliant to hear live.

Basket Chase was also extracted as a concert piece. I have seen Williams conduct it live and it has been recorded by the Boston Pops.

Quidditch Third Year has also been conducted live by the composer on several occassions, but as the first section of a cut-and-paste medley he refers to as "Witches, Wands, and Wizards," which also includes Chasing Scabbers, Hagrid's Friendly Bird (the solo flute feature part of Secrets of the Castle), and The Snow Fight, and has been commercially recorded by the City of Prague Philharmonic.

Which c.d. is "The Basket Chase" on?

Hell's Kitchen from Sleepers

T-Rex Rescue and Finale

Everybody Runs!

As the Water, from Memoirs of a Geisha

Williams has conducted The L.S.O. in a performance of "Hell's Kitchen". It was one of two encores on 4th. July. 1998, at The Barbican.

Wow, that must have been quite something, it's one my favorite Williams tracks. Is there any recording available?

[Naïve Old Fart 6,637]

Hmmm, don't agree about Jungle Chase, at least not compared to tracks like "The Basket Chase" or "The Asteroid Field" (the latter of which actually did become a concert piece). It's a bit too thematically driven and incoherent to work out of context.

I'd say "Quidditch, Third Year" would (and does) work well away from the film; its fugal and contrapuntal devices are quite advanced and sophisticated for an action cue. And it'd just be bloody brilliant to hear live.

Basket Chase was also extracted as a concert piece. I have seen Williams conduct it live and it has been recorded by the Boston Pops.

Quidditch Third Year has also been conducted live by the composer on several occassions, but as the first section of a cut-and-paste medley he refers to as "Witches, Wands, and Wizards," which also includes Chasing Scabbers, Hagrid's Friendly Bird (the solo flute feature part of Secrets of the Castle), and The Snow Fight, and has been commercially recorded by the City of Prague Philharmonic.

Which c.d. is "The Basket Chase" on?

Hell's Kitchen from Sleepers

T-Rex Rescue and Finale

Everybody Runs!

As the Water, from Memoirs of a Geisha

Williams has conducted The L.S.O. in a performance of "Hell's Kitchen". It was one of two encores on 4th. July. 1998, at The Barbican.

Wow, that must have been quite something, it's one my favorite Williams tracks. Is there any recording available?

Alas, not as far as I know, but the L.S.O. often records its concerts, so it might pop up on a boot, at sometime.

[indy4 152]

I'll add "Ants!"