Ollie 1,059 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Can someone post a link to what the Philharmonics 76 c.d. looks likeI just did a quick check of Amazon, Google and Soundtrack collector and couldn't find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Because I have a "Disaster Suite" conducted by Bill Conti (Earthquake,TTI and Jaws)But I never heard of the Poseidon Adventure theme being re-recorded by Williams outside of the actual score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 What CD is that Conti suite on, KM?I think Richard refers to the Filmharmonic concert in 76, which there's no CD of? If there was such a concert, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I second the Conti question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 The Force Theme (The biggest and most used Star Wars Theme but it has no concert suite and i'm the first mentionig it here, that's suprising ^.^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 The Throne Room didn't do it for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 The Nazi Theme from Last Crusade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Last Crusade could have used a big suite recounting all the themes. Epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 The Throne Room is the definitive presentation of the Force Theme. It beats out Binary Sunset and Funeral Pyre for a Jedi, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,330 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 The Nazi Theme from Last Crusadedefinatly needed one, the theme (to me) sounded more like the very end of a theme like the middle and end but no intro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Considering how great and how well developed the theme is in the six movies (It is definitely Williams best developed Theme in his whole career) the Throne Room track just is not enough Only the beginning of the track has the great epic renditions of the theme and then it changes to the coronation motif and the Main theme, rebel fanfare and Leia's theme. So 80 percent of the track are other themes and the Force B theme completely misses.For me a proper Force theme suite should build on the Force B theme (which only really appeared two times in six movies - Rebel Fleet/End Credits and Funeral Pyre (Film version)) and shift back and forth to the Force Theme. Sadly it doesn't look good, probably there will never be a real Force Theme Suite.Someone who attends Williams concerts should ask him about composing a Force Theme suite before he dies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIANOMUSICIAN1991 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I would love to hear an arrangement made my John Williams himself of all his love themes or action themes, but in a really different orchestral way and playing off each other etc, like a chaotic battle between his themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Henry Mancini conducts the JW disaster suite is on this c.d.http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/35668225-themes-from-the-godfather-romeo-juliet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 The Nazi Theme from Last Crusadedefinatly needed one, the theme (to me) sounded more like the very end of a theme like the middle and end but no intro Man, three or four moments of just that comical fanfare developed? Not to mention the political difficulties of naming a piece after Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 What CD is that Conti suite on, KM?I think Richard refers to the Filmharmonic concert in 76, which there's no CD of? If there was such a concert, of course.There certainly was such a concert, as I watched it on television (I.T.V., I think). At around the same time, J.W. was interviewed for a film music radio show called "Starsound - broadcast on Radio 2 - where he talked about both "Midway", and "The Missouri Breaks", as well as "Jaws". He spoke of how he thought that "Jaws" was not a "disaster" film per se, but rather an adventure. Of course, I can't prove any of this, but I was already developing a serious fascination with J.W.'s misic, even at the tender age of (edited).P.s., I also saw J.W. conduct a "Star Wars" suite at Filmharmonic '86, at the RAH, where I also met and spoke to Jim Henson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 The Nazi Theme from Last Crusadedefinatly needed one, the theme (to me) sounded more like the very end of a theme like the middle and end but no intro Man, three or four moments of just that comical fanfare developed? Not to mention the political difficulties of naming a piece after Nazis.Well Wagner always found a way around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 The Nazi Theme from Last Crusadedefinatly needed one, the theme (to me) sounded more like the very end of a theme like the middle and end but no intro Man, three or four moments of just that comical fanfare developed? Not to mention the political difficulties of naming a piece after Nazis.Well Wagner always found a way around it.Are you saying that Wagner was a Nazi before the Nazis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 Pretty much, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Pretty much, yeah.Ooh er, missus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Williams could do what Goldsmith did for the Varese Patton recording and call it the German March.Ah I see what you mean now, it is a nice little theme for her character. Do you agree though that the other theme which I referred to is concert worthy too? One thing this little conversation has done is remind me just how brilliant Arnold was in ID4; such a shame he is unlikely to return for the sequel, he'll be missed.I agree on all points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Williams could do what Goldsmith did for the Varese Patton recording and call it the German March.Ah I see what you mean now, it is a nice little theme for her character. Do you agree though that the other theme which I referred to is concert worthy too? One thing this little conversation has done is remind me just how brilliant Arnold was in ID4; such a shame he is unlikely to return for the sequel, he'll be missed.I agree on all points.THERE IS GOING TO BE A SEQUEL TO ID4?! I'm losing the will to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Really? Is it going to be called ID5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 From what I've read, it's more like ID9/11 (yawn). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I get the impression the score itself kinda treats it like an unproud necessity.I definitely think that Williams was far less....inspired by Kate Capshaw as he was by Karen Allen and Cate Blanchett Just not his kinda babe, I guess.And he was much less inspired by Alison Doody since she even does not have a propper theme, just sensual 'mood' music when she is on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Probably because Alison Doody was never a "proper" actress. Jenny Flex? Gimme a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 She was by far the sexiest villain out the lot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 She was by far the sexiest villain out the lot though.What? Sexier than Barbara Bach in that red Speedo as pictured on the gatefold sleve of "The Spy Who Loved Me" vinyl l.p.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I agree that several themes mentioned here probably wouldn't have enough substance for a full-length concert suite.Personally, I'd be quite happy if they'd just replace the common CE3K suite with the 20 minuten one Gerhardt recorded. The big, lyrical finale of the score becomes much more powerful with the more dissonant stuff building up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 She was by far the sexiest villain out the lot though.What? Sexier than Barbara Bach in that red Speedo as pictured on the gatefold sleve of "The Spy Who Loved Me" vinyl l.p.?Lord know, I was talking Indy movies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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