Ollie 1,059 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 I know, what I mean is secondary sellers, like eBay and those who only sell through Amazon as a secondary seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 well, I guess some people will have to settle with a copy with an imperceptible skip if they really want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 i still wonder why did got sold out so quickly.some better and expanded scores take much more time to get sold.i suppose it was that since it was just an exclusive japanese cd, most of the people didnt had this score in original form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have yet to receive the replacement disc and it has been nearly 2 weeks since I asked them to mail it. I simply can't listen to the original faulty disc, it has a crack in its perfection that disturbs my perfectionist soul. Outrageous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 This movie was a childhood favorite of mine and nothing brings a smile to my face like music from movies I loved as a kid. I had the original release and while this is pretty much the same thing, I'm still thrilled to have it. Objectively, most wouldn't consider it among Williams' best but as a sentimental pick for me, it can't be beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 i still wonder why did got sold out so quickly.some better and expanded scores take much more time to get sold.i suppose it was that since it was just an exclusive japanese cd, most of the people didnt had this score in original form.Correct, since only a 1000 copies of the Japanese issue were issued and it's John Williams, I can't say I'm surprised it went quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 where's the skip again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 If you read the thread you would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I forgot and don;t feel like reading it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 Well you've made it obvious it's a non-issue for you so I guess it isn't important. And I mean that in a pleasant way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,338 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 where's the skip again?http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 it's missing the docking on the space station cue. That bothers me a lot more than a skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Off the top of my head... 30 seconds into Max Finds Courage.Btw, it sold out in 23 hours. Not 48. Something like 20 minutes slower than Predators.Josh, you got lucky by receiving the corrected disc; and for $30, be happy. In time this thing will revert back to its original cost on the secondary market. $200+I still haven't asked for the corrected disc, I'm waiting for something to order from Intrada. If there's nothing I want from tomorrow's batch, I may just order Patton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 So should we do a giveaway for those who missed on Spacecamp with our defective discs? What are people doing with theirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 ok yeah I can hear the skip. It's the first time I look for it.lolit's pretty obvious too and I agree it warrants a replacement c.d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 So should we do a giveaway for those who missed on Spacecamp with our defective discs? What are people doing with theirs?I'll laminate it and put in a nice frame with a golden plaque: Lest we forget. It will be there to remind me and all that not everything JW related is flawless even if the music is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 So should we do a giveaway for those who missed on Spacecamp with our defective discs? What are people doing with theirs?I'll laminate it and put in a nice frame with a golden plaque: Lest we forget. It will be there to remind me and all that not everything JW related is flawless even if the music is.If I could get a signature that would be a perfect idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Well I hope they shipped mine with Family Plot. I asked them in a messageBut I also have the skip free track form my Japanese c.d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,338 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 If I recall correctly, the faulty discs also have the wrong catalog number printed on them, and the fixed discs have the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Off the top of my head... 30 seconds into Max Finds Courage.Btw, it sold out in 23 hours. Not 48. Something like 20 minutes slower than Predators. Family Plot didn't sell so quickly, not to mention the Indy Box!I feel like I've stumbled across some hidden treasure... Josh, you got lucky by receiving the corrected disc; and for $30, be happy. In time this thing will revert back to its original cost on the secondary market. $200+I still haven't asked for the corrected disc, I'm waiting for something to order from Intrada. If there's nothing I want from tomorrow's batch, I may just order Patton.I just got it today, and I haven't listened to it yet. God forbid, I have two flawed discs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 If I recall correctly, the faulty discs also have the wrong catalog number printed on them, and the fixed discs have the right one.Yeap, that is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 Wrong disc = Intrada #145Correct disc = Intrada #140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Well it was OOP for a very long time before Intrada finally re-issued it this summer. Roger Feigelson had hoped to expand it to the complete score, but the people who own the music were being completely uncooperative so in the end they just re-issued the original LP from the album master.Anyways, if you want to read about the whole defective discs fiasco, it starts around here:http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19200&view=findpost&p=657985Thanks!I probably read about 50% of what's being posted here. And I completely missed that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Off the top of my head... 30 seconds into Max Finds Courage.Btw, it sold out in 23 hours. Not 48. Something like 20 minutes slower than Predators. Family Plot didn't sell so quickly, not to mention the Indy Box!Family Plot isn't even close to selling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 well if it was limited at 3000 copies it would be close to or would have by nowPoltergeist will NEVER sell out. I'll be picking it up for 10$ on sale next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 for whatever reason, Intrada's seem to go quickly.However FP is at 5000, so it's possible 3000 may have gone already. Plus it is the holiday season and people have other priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 So is the Spacecamp music so mindblowingly good that it warrants all the fuss it gets?Can't wait to listen to the album in its entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 well if it was 3000 copies it would be close to or would have by nowPoltergeist will NEVER sell outGood, that means this great score will be available for many years to come, just like Black SundaySo is the Spacecamp music so mindblowingly good that it warrants all the fuss it gets?Can't wait to listen to the album in its entirety.It's not up there with the greats of Williams' works but it's a good score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 So is the Spacecamp music so mindblowingly good that it warrants all the fuss it gets?Can't wait to listen to the album in its entirety.If you like Williams "type" of writing for E.T. ,Hook, Harry Potter, Amazing Stories and his Olympic celebratory fanfares...this is probably the most typical example of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 It is very hard to anticipate the success of some releases amoung the fans. A score like Space Camp obviously has a fanatic following as does Predator, which on the other hand is a genre classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 OK, I seriously doubt it's as good as Hook or E.T.... but I'll keep my mind open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 some of it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Yay. I've got the Volume 145 AND the Volume 140. So, those of you who have the correct CD... what d`you do with the faulty one? Use it as a cup coaster? OK just listened to the album straight through once. This is good, I guess... some tracks seem great, although I probably have to listen to it a couple more times to really appreciate it. Especially the first track, the last track, and "In Orbit" have stuck in my mind so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Yay. I've got the Volume 145 AND the Volume 140. So, those of you who have the correct CD... what d`you do with the faulty one? Use it as a cup coaster? for christsake no!you can give it to some friend who wanted it but could not grab it before it sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steb74 53 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 you can give it to some friend who wanted it but could not grab it before it sold out.You can have my extra copy man, I'll PM you and we can sort out the details, etc .....at least it won't cost much to send it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 for whatever reason, Intrada's seem to go quickly.However FP is at 5000, so it's possible 3000 may have gone already. Plus it is the holiday season and people have other priorities.Varese has sold 2136 copies of Family Plot. However, I think that having an item at 3000 makes selling one copy a lot faster, because people are afraid it'll go out of print. I'm sure many are planning on buying FP next year since there are 5000 copies so it won't go anytime soon. People with SpaceCamp new that 3000 copies meant a matter of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I have to disagree. 3,000 has been the standard. Look at FSM, they rarely sell out, but then of course there's that whole thing with them pressing more than what they said they did. Either way, I think the surprise attack of Predator selling out in under 24 hours made people jump on SpaceCamp just as quickly. Add that to the fact SpaceCamp was the most difficult JW score to obtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 "The Predator Effect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 In defense of Predator, Roger did admit he under-estimated the demand for the score. I think had he really read the demand for it, chances are it would have been a 5,000 unit or maybe even a 10,000 unit release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 So just out of curiosity, who among us here did manage to get a copy of Predator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I was able to get a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I think Roger made the perfect business decision. There were already 3,000 copies out there from a fairly recent release by Varese. This one was virtually the same CD, how could he have known it'd be the fastest sell out out of all the labels?Oh, and I got one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I think Roger made the perfect business decision. There were already 3,000 copies out there from a fairly recent release by Varese. This one was virtually the same CD, how could he have known it'd be the fastest sell out out of all the labels?Oh, and I got one too.It really wasn't the same CD. It had better sound quality yes, but some editing factors made it different from Varèse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I was able to get a copy.Oh, and I got one too.And? Is the music itself worth all the attention this release has gotten so far?I have seen the movie, of course, but it was a long time ago, and I can't really remember the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 You ask a lot of simple yet personable questions. Everyone has their own particular tastes. It's pure 80s action, a landmark score. Listen to the samples if you want a taste of the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 You know, I am a John Williams completist (pretty much) and a big Jerry Goldsmith fan, but that's it. So unless an Alan Silvestri score really grabs me (like BTTF), I am not apt to get it.I was just trying to understand what's all the fuss about this Predator release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 The fuss probably has to do with the old Varese copy selling for $200+ on eBay, just like SpaceCamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesyboy 3 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 So just out of curiosity, who among us here did manage to get a copy of Predator?I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 The fuss probably has to do with the old Varese copy selling for $200+ on eBay, just like SpaceCamp.I would never spend 200$ for a CD.But anyway, the fact that someone offers the Varese copy for $200+ probably means the music is not too shabby...Hell, I gotta rewatch that movie some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 The quality of the music doesn't even have much to do with it. It's the demand. By nature, if something is sold out it's going to fetch a higher price on the secondary market. Low quantity + high demand = Very high value.Fools Of Fortune is an old crappy Hans Zimmer score, but since it's virtually impossible to find one for sale anywhere, it'll cost you a pretty penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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