Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 5 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Very happy to see you finally get into EM!😊 I've always been "into" him. Prior to his death, I had probably sampled some 150 of his works, and owned some 20. But the interest exploded after his death. Sampled about 300 more works over the course of several months, and added some 80 extra titles to my collection, so that it now totals about 100. Mostly lyrical stuff, occasionally some quirky/loungey/bizarre. Not really the dissonant stuff, although I sampled that too. That remains a Morricone frontier I need to get into. One of my runner-ups/honourable mentions last year, even though it went under the radar for most people. As with any and all BLACK BEAUTY adaptations, it's beautiful and spiritual (think reflective strings, harps and piano) more than it is upbeat and actioney. Which is a plus in my book. bruce marshall and LSH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I'm a new fan of Morricone, I have nothing against his music, but all the exploratory sounds of the 60's and 70s... I can't. It's why I usually like re-recordings made by him, like the excellent "Morricone 60". And you need to know Morricone made a lot of "alimentary" music in Italy before becoming a respected composer. His career as a "movie composer" took a little more time than others to lift up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Jazzy Americana score (with Bernstein's trademark odd meter ostinati) for a film that caused quite the ruckus back in the day. A young John Williams plays the piano. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 His 4 early collaborations with Elmer Bernstein, as a piano player, is definitely a thing I must explore in the next years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Indeed you have to. All of those are great. Do I remember correctly that his piano playing on TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD was refuted recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Indeed. "If it's not on Bespin's page, then it doesn't exist." Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Maybe it was something else, though -- I can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 When @Miguel Andrade after he made his researches, tells me we can remove something on my website, I do, this is the only thing I remember! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I actually found the discussion I was thinking about, and it was in relation to a couple of Mancini efforts. I guess that means that nobody has refuted John Williams playing on TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD that I'm aware of, so you can add it to your discography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 NO. I don't know if it's about this movie in particular, but we have cases where JW did played on the sessions, but not on the ones for the album... and well, my discography is about "albums"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Bespin said: I don't know if it's about this movie in particular, but we have cases where JW did played on the sessions, but not on the ones for the album. I seem to remember that being the case, yes. I only have the RSNO rerecording, and the liner notes aren't particularly helpful in terms of personell on the original film sessions or original album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, Thor said: A young John Williams plays the piano. Never mind the fucking piano; that woman is wearing no underwear, whatsoever! bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 LOL! Yeah, and those hands dangerously close to the netherregions of both. This was about as raunchy as you could get in 1958. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 There's style, there. I'd take this, over any moronic, and exploitative Niki Minaj video. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Thor said: One of my runner-ups/honourable mentions last year, even though it went under the radar for most people. As with any and all BLACK BEAUTY adaptations, it's beautiful and spiritual (think reflective strings, harps and piano) more than it is upbeat and actioney. Which is a plus in my book. Certainly went under my radar. Giving it a listen now... it's really quite lovely. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Lalo Schifrin & John E Davis - The Best of Mission Impossible: Then and Now Hehe, my CD has the BMG Music Service info in place of a UPC, so I guess I picked this up as a teenager, probably after seeing and liking the 1996 film and score. The first half of the album is a bunch of Lalo Schifrin cues from the original '66 series, and it all pretty dang great! Many cool and different variations of "The Plot". The second half of the album is John E Davis cues from the 1988 reboot series, and is mostly kind of cheesy sounding but has some nice stuff. This is then followed by a 15 minute interview with an actor from the original series, which I didn't care much about, but at one point him and the interviewer discuss the possibllity of them making a feature film one day, whiich is when I realized this CD is from 1992! The last track is a recording of a live performance of a 6 minute suite of M:I music performed by the Israeli Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Lalo Schifrin (no date listed). It's split into an about 3 minute breakdown of The Plot with an applause interruption, then about a 3 minute breakdown of the main theme. Both arrangements are super jazzy and groovy, so present a kind of third take on the same basic ideas this album has. Overall - Cool stuff! I sort of regret missing out on the LLL 6CD box now. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 A Daniel Radcliffe comedy/action film that also went under the radar to most people, I think. Haven't seen it, but I dig the score. Another runner-up last year. Some excellent synthwave tracks by the always-eclectic Rotthof. But the album is much too long at 67 minutes. This would work neatly at about 30-40 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 It's one of the worst films I've seen in the past 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jay said: It's one of the worst films I've seen in the past 10 years Don't start me on the worst films I saw in the past 10 years, do you have 4 hours before you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jay said: It's one of the worst films I've seen in the past 10 years Sorry to hear it. At least a good score came out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: "If it's not on Bespin's page, then it doesn't exist." Love to prove that, wouldn't you, get your name into the National Geographic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,260 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Thor said: Indeed you have to. All of those are great. Do I remember correctly that his piano playing on TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD was refuted recently? All releases are re-recordings, none of them featuring Williams at the piano. The actual soundtrack recording is yet to be released (assuming tapes for that one still exist). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, Miguel Andrade said: All releases are re-recordings, none of them featuring Williams at the piano. The actual soundtrack recording is yet to be released (assuming tapes for that one still exist). It’s always been so cool to me that JW is the first thing you hear over the Universal logo when you watch the movie. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Thanks for the confirmation, Miguel. Even though I'm content with my RSNO rerecording, the original film tracks should be released for the historical value (if they're available). Including the Williams performance. Maybe some day. There are other Bernstein connections too -- although more tentative. Like Williams coming in at the tailend of GENERAL ELECTRIC THEATRE and doing some episodes, a series whose musical universe was first established by Bernstein. The album only contains Bernstein's material; hoping for other composers like JW to be represented at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Happy birthday Maestro Silvestri! Van Helsing OST Father of the bride OST Contact OST Avengers: Infinity War (LP program) Who framed Roger Rabbit OST (from the Expanded set) The Abyss OST Back to the future III (OST program, using the expanded release) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,287 Posted March 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2021 James Horner - A Beautiful Mind This is a score I completely ignored when it came out, and now finally appreciate 20 years later. The piano work is gorgeous, but there's also cool brass and string passages. The mood the score creates is pretty great, you feel like you're delving into the mind of someone who can't escape theirs. I will neglect this score no further, it's a good one! Bespin, SteveMc and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I remember watching this movie on cable as a teenager and falling in love with Horner's love theme. My Horner fandom started there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I remember seeing this in the theater and wondering what happened to Jennifer Connelly. She was my #1 teenage crush after stuff like Rocketeer, Career Opportunities, and later Dark City, Requiem, Walking the Dead, Pollock, etc.... then she showed up in this looking like every other anorexic Hollywood actress. The curves were all gone! Oh wait, actually it was the Academy Awards where she won Best Supporting Actress (or maybe the next year where she presented that award? I can't remember now) It was like she wanted to slim down for The Hulk, but went too far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jay said: James Horner - A Beautiful Mind This is a score I completely ignored when it came out, and now finally appreciate 20 years later. The piano work is gorgeous, but there's also cool brass and string passages. The mood the score creates is pretty great, you feel like you're delving into the mind of someone who can't escape theirs. I will neglect this score no further, it's a good one! One of the best of his 'post-Titanic' era. Damn, he knew what a scene needed. That opening cue is stunning (despite being yet another version of the Sneakers motif, but I'm waaay over that now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Yes, I have largely ignored his post-Titanic, pre-Avatar era, but I'm starting to make up for it now! This is easily the one I've enjoyed most that I've revisited from that era so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 There's a lot of great scores from Horner post-Titanic: -Deep Impact -Bicentennial Man -The Perfect Storm -A Beautiful Mind -Enemy at the Gates -Windtalkers -House of Sand and Fog -Troy -The New World And probably some more. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, Edmilson said: -House of Sand and Fog Still on my wishlist! Woops, just ordered on Amazon! (+ The Amazing Spider-Man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Edmilson said: ...great scores post-TITANIC... MAsK OF ZORRO -A Beautiful Mind AMAZING SPIDERMAN 😊 And probably some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Ahum, IRIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Mask of Zorro is okay, though not one of my favorites. I'm still waiting for the expansion, as apparently there's some great deal of music missing from the OST. Amazing Spider-Man is good, but it's from his post-Avatar era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Waterworld yesterday. Love it. Had another Discord listening party today with @Disco Stu, @The Illustrious Jerry and @SteveMc - today's menu was the fantastic Prometheus rerecording of the wonderful Rózsa's masterful Thief of Bagdad - a somewhat edited down program, my manieth listen, their first. While we all agreed it was great, it was fun to see different people find different things to take note of more in this rich and varied score, some took to the choral and more impressionist writing (The Market, The Storm and Aftermath, The Golden Tent), while others really clicked onto the themes (Abu's especially) and all their variations that the master puts them through. All in all a really fun time for all, thanks for joining, gents! The Illustrious Jerry and SteveMc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Am I still banned from that Discord? Holko, The Illustrious Jerry and Disco Stu 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 56 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Mask of Zorro is okay, though not one of my favorites. I'm still waiting for the expansion, as apparently there's some great deal of music missing from the OST. Amazing Spider-Man is good, but it's from his post-Avatar era. Isn't that post-TITANIC?😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, bruce marshall said: Isn't that post-TITANIC?😳 I consider his post-Avatar career to be distinguished enough from his 98-2008 era. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 In unknown zone, altought I absolutely love Angele Dubeau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Ratatouille (Recording Sessions) by Michael Giacchino Clearly his best work with Up. So fun and smooth. A guilty pleasure... Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bespin said: In unknown zone, altought I absolutely love Angele Dubeau. Tracks 3 and 6 on that album contain some of the best music ever written for video games Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Am I still banned from that Discord? Zzzzzzz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: Tracks 3 and 6 on that album contain some of the best music ever written for video games Great 9 and 11 minutes suites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Neo noir mood Alan Silvestri - Who framed Roger Rabbit OST Jerry Goldsmith - LA Confidential OST JW - The Long Goodbye (the short playlist made with the Quartet release) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Holko said: Waterworld yesterday. Love it. Had another Discord listening party today with @Disco Stu, @The Illustrious Jerry and @SteveMc - today's menu was the fantastic Prometheus rerecording of the wonderful Rózsa's masterful Thief of Bagdad - a somewhat edited down program, my manieth listen, their first. While we all agreed it was great, it was fun to see different people find different things to take note of more in this rich and varied score, some took to the choral and more impressionist writing (The Market, The Storm and Aftermath, The Golden Tent), while others really clicked onto the themes (Abu's especially) and all their variations that the master puts them through. All in all a really fun time for all, thanks for joining, gents! Some bits made me wish Rozsa wrote an opera! But the whole score is magnificent, great to hear Rozsa develop his style here. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,336 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 18 hours ago, Edmilson said: Mask of Zorro is okay, though not one of my favorites. I'm still waiting for the expansion, as apparently there's some great deal of music missing from the OST. Amazing Spider-Man is good, but it's from his post-Avatar era. When watching Mask of Zorro I always get irritated hearing the Aliens score at the scene of Don Rafaels return. This: https://youtu.be/wnPJRJbVEIg?list=PLH9C08qrQ7S6uEqnEWzVJsr5J_DhB4zkN&t=163 Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Can't beat the dynamic range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 The Birth of a Nation (FYC) by Henry Jackman It's quite okay, nothing incredible but it's easily listennable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, GerateWohl said: When watching Mask of Zorro I always get irritated hearing the Aliens score at the scene of Don Rafaels return. ...and that, folks, is Horner in a nutshell. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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