A24 4,331 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I don't connect with it, but if I'm honest, that's usually the case with Goldsmith. I guess he's Lennon and Williams is McCartney? GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Perfect score with one of my favourite Williams' theme: Hymn to the Fallen!! Another amazing score from the maestro, I simply love it Bespin and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, AC1 said: I don't connect with it, but if I'm honest, that's usually the case with Goldsmith. I guess he's Lennon and Williams is McCartney? Same here. It's one of the JG CDs I've sold or traded away. Nice theme, but the rest just wanders. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Towering Inferno, the Big Deluxe C&C Playlist! Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Thor said: Same here. It's one of the JG CDs I've sold or traded away. Nice theme, but the rest just wanders. The Budd-conducted suite with the LSO is quite sufficient. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,357 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 In the meantime I frequently mix up that Supergirl march with Goldsmith's Star Trek march. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I mix up Supergirl with captain Kirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Supergirl (Jerry) - after the negative comments earlier I thought I'd give it a listen. I concede that it does get a bit repetitive at times and it's certainly not a patch of Superman but I still think it's a fun score with a super catchy set of themes, even if the swirling strings around the love theme gets a bit much after a while, and they are repeated perhaps a touch too often by the end. The action music is variable, but it's Jerry, even his less inspired stuff is pretty great and the flying ballet is terrific. I gave the Roy Budd conducted suite a listen too (I'm pretty sure I heard the Supergirl theme about 435,342,903 times today), even if it's a bit disjointed as an arrangement and, as I've commented previously, weirdly includes about 2 bars of the villain theme before the main theme reappears for the final time. It almost sounds like a bad edit of the tape whereas presumably it was just two bars slotted into the sheet music. Also gave the Telarc version from their Superheroes album another whirl. The performance feels a bit anaemic; the luscious strings of the original album replaced with and almost invisibly thin string section. It doesn't help that the recording isn't a patch on the old Kunzel recordings. I don't really know what went wrong with that one. The rest of the album is better, but you do miss Erich and his engineers. The Danish Girl (Alexandre Desplat) - if you had to pick an archetypal Desplat score this would easily make the running. Beautifully delicate strings and piano arrangements, Oscar bait style drama, just the right amount of melancholy. Now I need to work out whether the optical port on the computer or my amp is broken... Sorry inside voice ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Supergirl (Jerry) - after the negative comments earlier I thought I'd give it a listen. I concede that it does get a bit repetitive at times and it's certainly not a patch of Superman but I still think it's a fun score with a super catchy set of themes, even if the swirling strings around the love theme gets a bit much after a while, and they are repeated perhaps a touch too often by the end. The action music is variable, but it's Jerry, even his less inspired stuff is pretty great and the flying ballet is terrific. The action cues (Monster Storm, Final Victory) are certainly preferable (to me) to Superman's, which sound old-fashioned and too much like Star Wars (everything that comes before the tail end of Fortress of Solitutude is the real selling point). But the muddy/bad mix lets it down. It's second-tier JG, but i certainly *would* pay for a well-mastered release in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Discovering this highly inspirational score at last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 It's great Predator 2 is even better! Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jay said: It's great Predator 2 is even better! Sure and let me guess... the CD is OoR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 The OST CD has been Out of Print for a while In December 2014, Varese Sarabande released a 2CD Deluxe Edition produced, assembled, and mixed by Mike Matessino. That sold out in December 2016. Bespin and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Supergirl (Jerry) - after the negative comments earlier I thought I'd give it a listen. I concede that it does get a bit repetitive at times and it's certainly not a patch of Superman but I still think it's a fun score with a super catchy set of themes, even if the swirling strings around the love theme gets a bit much after a while, and they are repeated perhaps a touch too often by the end. The action music is variable, but it's Jerry, even his less inspired stuff is pretty great and the flying ballet is terrific. The theme is an absolutely perfect encore piece. 6 hours ago, GerateWohl said: In the meantime I frequently mix up that Supergirl march with Goldsmith's Star Trek march. Perhaps that's why the Trekkies won. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 991 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I initially was harsher on Supergirl, since the bootleg I have used to sound so flat to my ears (bad audio equipment can do that), and anything past the main titles track did so little for me. However, the last time I heard it, I got so into it that I think I legitimately like it more than any of the Superman sequels. Definitely would need to give it another go before I can solidify my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 We can't use the term "bootleg" on JWAN. Bootleg, bootleg, bootleg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 One of the 10 best synth-led scores of all time, IMO, and also one of the best scores since the millennium turnover. And of course my favourite Isham. Loads of accolades at one time here, but it deserves it. Has become somewhat of a classic already. Dreamy, warm cushions of sound, and perfect for this morning where I woke far too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Thor said: One of the 10 best synth-led scores of all time, IMO, and also one of the best scores since the millennium turnover. And of course my favourite Isham. Loads of accolades at one time here, but it deserves it. Has become somewhat of a classic already. Dreamy, warm cushions of sound, and perfect for this morning where I woke far too early. If only the movie weren't such a monstrosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Ha, ha. Yes, I'm aware it has its critics. Guess I'm one of the few who quite like it, despite its rather feeble attempt at being a SHORT CUTS/MAGNOLIA-type "wickerwork-film" (as we call it in Norway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 It's like a modern update of the 'southern gothics' from the 60's, where every white guy or gal was a hate-spewing racist or a dumb yokel (or possibly both). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 The Young score album is OK, but no thank you. This is where it's at! My favourite DJ/EDM composer of the last 30 years delivers a smokingly delicious album that is one of the best electronica-fused score albums in the same period. If funk had been invented in the 90s, this is how it would have sounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Is this movie good? Because there's a nice cast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,436 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I watched it years ago on cable and... Well, I think I liked it but I can't remember the details of the plot or the characters. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Thor said: Ha, ha. Yes, I'm aware it has its critics. Guess I'm one of the few who quite like it, despite its rather feeble attempt at being a SHORT CUTS/MAGNOLIA-type "wickerwork-film" (as we call it in Norway). Geez, Louise, Thor! I never thought you'd mention the masterworks that are MAGNOLIA, and SHORT CUTS, in the same sentence as CRASH. I have officially read it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thor 7,495 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 It's one of his best, Aenae. Most def top 5 EG for me. 16 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Geez, Louise, Thor! I never thought you'd mention the masterworks that are MAGNOLIA, and SHORT CUTS, in the same sentence as CRASH. I have officially read it all Ha, ha....my point was rather that it ASPIRED to be that type of film and that kind of ambition, but doesn't really succeed very well. Still, I like it. 17 hours ago, May the Force be with You said: Is this movie good? Because there's a nice cast Yeah, I remember it as pretty good. Bloated and pulpy, but energetic and loaded with style. Aenae and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 HTTYD afternoon. Great trilogy from Powell, the first is still my favourite (probably because it's the only one properly expanded yet) Smaug The Iron and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,654 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 18 hours ago, May the Force be with You said: Is this movie good? No. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 A really nice surprise. Lot of great stuff plus it's full length (116 minutes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,385 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 3 hours ago, May the Force be with You said: HTTYD afternoon. Great trilogy from Powell, the first is still my favourite (probably because it's the only one properly expanded yet) That's a solid afternoon. I love 2 SO much. I think the only thing that I know that I want expanded from 2 is the instrumental of Where No One Goes with the orchestration during Hiccup's "THIS is Berk!" at the end of the movie. I'm not missing anything from 3. Care to enlighten me on what I'm missing? Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aenae 41 Posted August 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2021 Chinatown - Jerry Goldsmith This is another great score. I think that it is one of the few dozen best film scores ever written even if I do find it to be a bit overrated in some corners. Tom Guernsey, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Bespin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: That's a solid afternoon. I love 2 SO much. I think the only thing that I know that I want expanded from 2 is the instrumental of Where No One Goes with the orchestration during Hiccup's "THIS is Berk!" at the end of the movie. I'm not missing anything from 3. Care to enlighten me on what I'm missing? From 2? There are a few alternates in demo form that popped up in one of those "first ## minutes of the film" thingies, some promotional stuff (ads etc.), and in a phone game app. There are a couple cues that were missing from the OST that are on the FYC Dragon Races Film Opening (FYC, first ## minutes video has demo from Dragon Races to Together We Map the World) Where No One Goes (Orchestral ending for crash landing) Together We Map the World (FYC version includes additional statement of Astrid theme)Eret Educates Hiccup 1m6 (FYC)Drago's Coming! (Partially on OST, FYC has more, Game app has demo version)Me Likey 2m9 (FYC)War Is What He Wants 2m10 (FYC)I Grew Facial Hair For You 3m19 (FYC)Flying With Mother film mix (FYC)Flying With Mother (Demo version from Website game)Can We Start Over 3m21 (FYC)Get Em, You Son of Eret! 3m27 (FYC)Riding the Hatchlings 4m35 (FYC)Where No One Goes Reprise (only in film) Tallguy and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Aenae said: Chinatown - Jerry Goldsmith This is another great score. I think that it is one of the few dozen best film scores ever written even if I do find it to be a bit overrated in some corners. Written in 7 days, if memory serves. It's not "one of the few dozen best film scores...". It's, easily, top 10. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 CHINATOWN is great. An exercise in sparse scoring. One of my favourite scores of 2015. Llewelyn's gorgeous synth score is wide and melodic -- not something you would expect for a horror-centered movie. He was excited when I included it in Celluloid Tunes' top 10 of the year, but it's very deserved. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Knut is a good friend of mine, but I always felt his CONAN game scores were top of the pops. Huge orchestral forces, but also wonderful medieval instrumentation. Always memorable themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 A really nice score from Goldmsith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I discovered Nemesis this afternoon. Great OST! This score is among the last ones of Jerry Goldsmith, yeah it have the known big theme twice or third times, but it's different... a bit minimalistic. A great late score by a genius composer, I was moved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 On 8/15/2021 at 11:14 PM, Aenae said: Michael Collins - Elliot Goldenthal Fantastic score. Goldenthal wrote one great score after another in the 1990s. He and his work is underrated in my opinion. Goldenthal will always be one of my top 5 favorite composers. Heat - Elliot Goldenthal This score/film combo remains sublime for me. It is one of my top 10 films of all time and will probably always be. I rate the score VERY highly too. Goldenthal hit the jackpot and got an inspiring film to work with. This score, just like his magnum opus Alien 3, has the potential of reducing me to tears. I love the ethereal cityscape that the score conjures up so much. I think this track perfectly encapsulates what you described as "ethereal cityscape": Stunning stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A24 4,331 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 It must have been more than 10 years since the last time I listened to Angela's Ashes. It's one of those Williams CDs you tend to forget you have. The recording is pretty good but it's mostly strings. The score is not bad but it never was all that engaging, IMO (just like the movie). Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, AC1 said: It must have been more than 10 years since the last time I listened to Angela's Ashes. It's one of those Williams CDs you tend to forget you have. I don't. It's easily in my top 10 Williams. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Of course ... Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 It's quite boring in its extreme repetitiveness IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 It's the exact opposite of boring. Gorgeous and pastoral through and through. "Angela's Prayer" is one of the very best cues Williams has written in his life. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 The score is also quite depressing, just like the kid on the cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's quite boring in its extreme repetitivity IMO. Probably the reason why I start to lose attention after a while. Occasionally I regain focus with the pizzicato and the oboe parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Sorry, you lost me halfway through your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Then you have either a very short attention span or you didn't want to read further because deep inside you love Angela's Ashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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