A24 4,333 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Why is the character 'i' right next to the 'o'?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, AC1 said: Holy! It's the first time that I notice Darth Maul has an anti-Christian symbol marked on his nose. Am I late to the party? You mean, on the bridge? All I see is a vertical line intersected by a horizontal line. No anti anything there, but each to his own . Now, if he has three sixes arranged, roughly, in a triangle, I'd be worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: No anti anything there, but each to his own . It's quite obvious. Strange that I didn't see it before. And now, what has been seen cannot be unseen. So does that mean I'm not late to the party but I'm actually the first one to arrive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 My tree is not anti-Christian, Holko, it's the Tree of Life. But with his horns and anti-Christian symbols, Darth Maul clearly is the devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 No religion is allowed here! Quick, everyone delete your posts before Jay can see them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Danny Elfman - Extreme Measures (OST) Another recent purchase, took the shrinkwrap off and checked it out today. Much like Article 99, I wasn't even familiar with a suite, since this one came out after Music For A Darkened Theater Volume II. Well, once again, I liked it! Typical mid 90s kooky Elfman, which was great. But track 8 in particular, "Elevator Madness" was straight out of Mission Impossible, so close it could have been a leftover track, or thrown into a playlist with that score and not feel out of place. It was fun; The whole CD was fun! Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Taking a break from Zimmer (and Newman, but that's another post). Dune (1984) A really solid listen. I've always enjoyed it far more than the movie. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,359 Posted September 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2021 John Williams - The Last Jedi (Complete) Hey, this is a pretty good score. It lacks a really great new theme to anchor the score around, so feels more like a "part 2" of Force Awakens score more so than a typical new Star Wars score to me, but that's OK. The new renditions of Rey's Theme and the March of the Resistance are really great, it's always nice and while Rose's Theme, the Luke in Exile theme, and Holdo's Resolve material don't set my world on fire, they are nice additions to the catalog. And now that I've finally heard The Long Goodbye, it was nice to hear a new rendition of that theme. I'm sure I'll always find Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker superior to this score, but this score is still good! Chewy, Smaug The Iron, Tom Guernsey and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jay said: John Williams - The Last Jedi (Complete) It lacks a really great new theme to anchor the score around Musically, Rebellion is Reborn is a much more exciting piece than the other sequel concert pieces. Mainly because it's a brilliant development of very different musical ideas. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Yea but I'm not talking about concert arrangements, I'm talking about the score as a whole. The 2 themes used to make that concert arrangement track of are fine themes, just don't blow me away, and don't really make a huge impact throughout the score presentation. Luke in Exile kinda goes away after the beginning, where it sounds the same each time it's used, and Rose's theme is nice for a while then also kinda disappears. I enjoy the new variations of Rey's theme and the March of the Resistance more, personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 You're right, but neither of the three scores are high on my list. Each has a few cues i really like, but as a whole they feel still strangely disconnected and kind of lame. And like in much of Williams' post-90's work, there is a most lamentable tendency to repeat older material verbatim (for the proscenium, so to speak). It's not really laziness on Williams part, but more a reveal of how factory-made and fan-serving big event movies have become since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: Taking a break from Zimmer (and Newman, but that's another post). Dune (1984) A really solid listen. I've always enjoyed it far more than the movie. You must listen to this edition: The difference in the Main Title alone makes it worthwhile, not to mention all the extra music Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Still have fond memories of catching the morning premiere of Park Chan-wook's THE HANDMAIDEN in Cannes in 2016, altough it was way too early for my taste. Great film, although I didn't like it as much as my colleagues. The sweeping and seductive score by Jo Yeong-wook is pure class (although Yeong-wook frequently uses co-composers, so I don't know how the credits are here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thor said: Great film, although I didn't like it as much as my colleagues. But still you think it's great? 2 minutes ago, Thor said: The sweeping score by Jo Yeong-wook is pure class (although Yeong-wook frequently uses co-composers, so I don't know how the credits are here). Sample, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: But still you think it's great? Yes. But they were beyond the clouds. It was a top 10 film for them, it was 24 for me (out of 135). 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Sample, please! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 John Williams - The Eiger Sanction (film recording) I dig this score a lot, it's pretty groovy. I realized today I don't really have any other scores in my collection like it. Maybe I need to listen to more 70s scoring! Chewy and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: John Williams - The Eiger Sanction (film recording) I dig this score a lot, it's pretty groovy. I realized today I don't really have any other scores in my collection like it. Maybe I need to listen to more 70s scoring! That's pretty much just how I feel. I'm a little leery of shouting how great this score is because I'm afraid that someone will then show me the seven scores that are in the same vein and maybe better, two of them by Williams. Like some kid talking about how The Rocketeer revolutionized film scoring. (I love the Rocketeer.) It hasn't happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I LOVE The Rocketeer! One of my favorite scores of all time. It ain't revolutionary, but it's great! I'm sure JW brought his own magic to Eiger that no other composer could have brought Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Jerry Goldsmith - Lionheart (Varese Deluxe Edition) I dunno, after several attempts, this score just doesn't do it for me GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: Jerry Goldsmith - Lionheart (Varese Deluxe Edition) I dunno, after several attempts, this score just doesn't do it for me Once weirdo, always weirdo! Bespin, Kasey Kockroach and Edmilson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I'm more a puppy heart than a lion heart, I must admit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Jay said: Jerry Goldsmith - Lionheart (Varese Deluxe Edition) I dunno, after several attempts, this score just doesn't do it for me Try this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 12 hours ago, GerateWohl said: That is nice with the FYC-Versions where the main title is skipped. Would be one of my wishes for the ever coming super edition of the SW scores. Yeah, the bonus section should include the main title without the first 90 seconds, so that each score can start individually. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Yeah, the bonus section should include the main title without the first 90 seconds, so that each score can start individually. I think we're taking "boutique" to a new level. I'm a little alarmed that I almost think it's a good idea. Almost. I mean, if every movie gets 3 or 4 discs and every cue is presented in both its movie form as well as discrete sections. That's not a musical presentation, that's a toolkit! What's that noise? Is that Thor throwing himself into the CD pressing machinery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Bespin said: I'm more a puppy heart than a lion heart, I must admit! I am - literally - a lionheart That's OK, Bes. Not everyone can like everything. There's not much love to go 'round, for RUNAWAY, but, for me, it's top-10 Jerry. Horses for courses. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,365 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Jay said: Jerry Goldsmith - Lionheart (Varese Deluxe Edition) I dunno, after several attempts, this score just doesn't do it for me To me the main title is pretty much Conan, but not as good. The rest reminds me of Legend, but is not as good as well. So, for me no must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 4 hours ago, GerateWohl said: To me the main title is pretty much Conan, but not as good. I'm used to confusing categorizations of scores pretty much since i first met Thor, but this one ranks high. Lionheart? Conan? It's pretty much an Elgarian hymn, Goldsmith style, and the surrounding themes and motifs are very much tied to it (not counting the Mathilda folk song-like tune and the Orff-ian Black Prince theme). There's nothing remotely archaic about Lionheart (not counting the synths, of course ) and Conan is all-archaic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Basic Instinct (Quartet) by Jerry Goldsmith A wonderful score with incredible action cues sparsed in a absolutely beautiful, haunting atmosphere Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 It's one of my favorite Jerry scores. Love the mood it has Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,365 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, publicist said: I'm used to confusing categorizations of scores pretty much since i first met Thor, but this one ranks high. Lionheart? Conan? It's pretty much an Elgarian hymn, Goldsmith style, and the surrounding themes and motifs are very much tied to it (not counting the Mathilda folk song-like tune and the Orff-ian Black Prince theme). There's nothing remotely archaic about Lionheart (not counting the synths, of course ) and Conan is all-archaic. I disagree. If you don't hear it. This driving rhythm with the low brass it is quite similar in character, archaic or not. Just the first two minutes of lionheart: And Anvil of Crom: Even the rhythm is quite similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I disagree. If you don't hear it. This driving rhythm with the low brass it is quite similar in character, archaic or not. Just the first two minutes of lionheart: I hear it. And I totally see what you're saying. But it's also fairly ordinary Jerry. I've been listening to Innerspace a lot, so I'll compare it to that. You could even go to Star Trek: Insurrection. 3:30 is a lot like Explorers. Every time I listen to clips of this I come away thinking it's a Best of Jerry score. Which is nice. It's not as dead to rights Conan as, say, Total Recall. I'm kinda loving it though. I should listen to this more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, GerateWohl said: This driving rhythm with the low brass it is quite similar in character, archaic or not. That's one cue in Lionheart and the similarity is superficial at best. It's the introduction of Goldsmith's Total Recall-style (it's also in the later Rambo's and has its roots in Supergirl, listen to example below). It's part streamlining, part pop/rock influence, whereas Conan sounds more, well, archaic (it's not only the rhythm, but the setting). Be that as it may, i merely find it curious that people (you, Jay, others i don't remember) find this score lacking, which apart from its mediocre playing and synth overdubbing strikes me as a classic example of a fan favourite (leitmotifs! easily hummable! hymns! romance!). Which is totally OK, of all the Goldsmith scores i own it's the one i first would recommend because i just find it easy to like. But that's just different strokes for different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,365 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, publicist said: That's one cue in Lionheart and the similarity is superficial at best. It's the introduction of Goldsmith's Total Recall-style (it's also in the later Rambo's and has its roots in Supergirl, listen to example below). It's part streamlining, part pop/rock influence, whereas Conan sounds more, well, archaic (it's not only the rhythm, but the setting). Be that as it may, i merely find it curious that people (you, Jay, others i don't remember) find this score lacking, which apart from its mediocre playing and synth overdubbing strikes me as a classic example of a fan favourite (leitmotifs! easily hummable! hymns! romance!). Which is totally OK, of all the Goldsmith scores i own it's the one i first would recommend because i just find it easy to like. But that's just different strokes for different people. The reference to Conan I only made for the main title. Nothing else. I wrote: Main title -> Conan, rest of the score -> Legend. I never wrote anywhere that the score overall sounds like Conan. Maybe you would find other people's post less weird or curious if you read them precisely. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: The reference to Conan I only made for the main title. Nothing else. I wrote: Main title -> Conan, rest of the score -> Legend. I never wrote anywhere that the score overall sounds like Conan. Maybe you would find other people's post less weird or curious if you read them precisely. No, because actually the *main title* (whatever that is) doesn't sound like Conan, but the cue 'Failed Knight' (debatable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 King Solomon's Mines (Quartet) by Jerry Goldsmith Another terrific score from Goldsmith, the action cues are great as always with him. I've also notice some Star Trek vibes or perhaps am I mistaking. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Speaking of CONAN, what is everyone's take on Knut Avenstroup Haugen's music for the videogames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, May the Force be with You said: King Solomon's Mines (Quartet) by Jerry Goldsmith Another terrific score from Goldsmith, the action cues are great as always with him. I've also notice some Star Trek vibes or perhaps am I mistaking. KING SOLOMON'S MINES holds a unique place, in the Goldsmith oeuvre. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Thor said: Speaking of CONAN, what is everyone's take on Knut Avenstroup Haugen's music for the videogames? I gave one of them a listen recently and quite enjoyed it in a slightly generic kinda way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Person of Interest (Season 1) This show turned 10 this week. Great show. Great score. I'd say my Djawadi gateway drug but I don't listen to that much else by him. Of course I always like what I hear. (Pacific Rim I like a lot.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,441 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 I really like King Solomon's Mines, it's one of my favorite action/adventure scores by Jerry. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Hans Zimmer - The Rock (Complete) An old favorite. Still good! Brónach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,386 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: Hans Zimmer - The Rock (Complete) An old favorite. Still good! Complete? The original is one of my favorite "I need to write lots of code very quickly" albums. Fort Walton - Kansas is just one of my favorite things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, Tallguy said: Complete? yea Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Michael Giacchino & Nami Melumad - Medal of Honor: Above and Beyond Oh, wow. I instantly like this score the first time I heard it, but for whatever reason it hasn't entered my rotation of scores I listen to often. It'd been a while since I heard this.... and so it wowwed me all over again. What a terrific score. That main theme has got to be one of the best themes of recent years, and it goes through so many variations on this album! This is really great! Can't wait for the Star Trek Prodigy album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 James Horner - Glory (LLL Main Program) Glorious, truly. Great release of a great score. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Probably the best of all the recent Poledouris additions on Spotify (the old release was an abysmal 29 minute selection). It's neither better nor worse than Part 1, kind of a 'more music from' thing. But with better sound. Brónach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Muppet Treasure Island. Children of Dune. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Giving this another go. They don't really write 'em like this anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1962 TV theme compilation that I once got on a lavish CD-R from someone -- as a bonus to a trade involving some rare Williams items. No Williams here, but suave and moody jazz and drama pieces all around. Ol' Herschel has the most tracks -- a privilege of conducting the recordings, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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