Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I've not heard MIMIC, but I really like his score for THE OMEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 MIMIC is Beltrami’s best score. “Delicious darkness” aplenty. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 It is definitely up there. Would make a very good Alien score actually. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 It might be the only one of his I own. I even bought it on CD! EDIT: Nope! I forgot he did Ford v. Ferrari. I LOVE that score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Still think Carol is just Philip Glass and Hours..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 No, it's Bespin's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 L.A. Confidential. It's still not a favourite of mine but the new deluxe programme is a definite improvement over the old album. Feels like the score is a more rounded experience which I definitely appreciate. Karol Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Star Trek TOS Box. Day 3, Disc 3. The Big Fred Steiner Disc. https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24899-star-trek-is-better-than-everything/&do=findComment&comment=1926640 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Other than my daily disk I'm trying to cut down on listening to Star Trek. Well, baby steps I guess. Galaxy Quest - David Newman (1999) Wow. Newman absolutely nails this Goldsmith / Horner Star Trek movie mix and then gives it all the heart in the world. "Goodbye, Serris" is the best curtain call music ever. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 By Grabthar's hammer... what a soundtrack. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LSH 968 Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 It's scary how well Powell has nurtured his assistants over the years to sound like him. I'm sure they are talented in their own rights (who knows, they might even have their own 'sound') but Willis and Batu Sener do very good imitation jobs. Stunning. One of the defining scores of the early 2000s. Tom Guernsey, Stark, Naïve Old Fart and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 7 hours ago, LSH said: Stunning. One of the defining scores of the early 2000s. Definitely top-5 JNH, for me. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Star Trek day 4, Disc 4 The Enemy Within (Sol Kaplan) The Conscience of the King (Joseph Mullendore) Shore Leave (Gerald Fried) https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24899-star-trek-is-better-than-everything/&do=findComment&comment=1926844 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 13 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Definitely top-5 JNH, for me. Listened to it, based on your comment. Other than the main theme/motif, it didn't stand out to me much. Anyway, listened afterwards to Snow Falling on Cedars of the same composer. Like it quite a lot, and of course most of all the Tarawa track which was used for the Matrix 2 or 3 (don't remember which) trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, filmmusic said: Anyway, listened afterwards to Snow Falling on Cedars of the same composer. Yep. That's also top-5 JNH, for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Yep. That's also top-5 JNH, for me. Second favourite for me, after WATERWORLD. SIGNS is OK, but I was never able to embrace it as much as many others have. Not top 10 JNH for me. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Thor said: Second favourite for me, after WATERWORLD. That's also top-5 JNH, for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 3,381 Posted December 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2022 I'm going with the flow. Or where the dream takes me, as it were. This is still such a fun score. The Submarine is one of those tracks where I want that last 45 seconds to go on for about another three or four minutes. At least. And then the rest of the score is great too! LSH, Edmilson and crocodile 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,424 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 https://open.spotify.com/album/1UfwGAzP1B2osr7jDF3Yvy Very fun score that is kind of a mix between Powell's Ice Age antics/sweetness and his more action oriented score with some electronic elements like Paycheck. And the best part: it's about 30 minutes long (including the songs, which I skipped)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Edmilson said: https://open.spotify.com/album/1UfwGAzP1B2osr7jDF3Yvy Very fun score that is kind of a mix between Powell's Ice Age antics/sweetness and his more action oriented score with some electronic elements like Paycheck. And the best part: it's about 30 minutes long (including the songs, which I skipped)! But Howling at the Moon is WONDERFUL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: That's also top-5 JNH, for me. Well, do you want to share all your top-5 JNH? Waterworld is in mine too. But I haven't listened to a lot of JNH to make a top-5. Another one that I would definitely put in it would be The Prince of Tides and probably Atlantis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Well, do you want to share all your top-5 JNH? I think we already have, earlier in this thread (I mean the JNH one; I thought we were in that for a moment). But hey: 1. WATERWORLD 2. Snow Falling on Cedars 3. The Saint of Fort Washington 4. Falling Down 5. The Village/A Hidden Life (cheating, I know, but they're kinda like two movements of the same piece) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Thor said: 4. Falling Down Haven't heard this one, but I have seen the movie. Don't remember anything of the score. And how could I forget the Village and A Hidden Life? Yes, now, I have my top-5 then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Well, do you want to share all your top-5 JNH? It's more of a top-8, but... 8/ ATLANTIS 7/ WATERWORLD 6/ THE VILLAGE 5/ WYATT EARP 4/ SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS 3/ FLATLINERS 2/ SIGNS 1/ GRAND CANYON with special mentions for FALLING DOWN, and THE SAINT OF FORT WASHINGTON. I'm not trying to copy you, @filmmusic, and @Thor, but it appears that we three have similar JNH tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's more of a top-8, but... 5/ WYATT EARP 3/ FLATLINERS 1/ GRAND CANYON Hmmm. Haven't listened to these as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Oh, you should! There are many similarities between GRAND CANYON, and FLATLINERS. WYATT EARP is far more traditional. Imagine WATERWORLD meets KING KONG. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 15 hours ago, Thor said: Second favourite for me, after WATERWORLD. SIGNS is OK, but I was never able to embrace it as much as many others have. Not top 10 JNH for me. I'll never understand the extensive fandom for Waterworld. It's… nice? Signs would probably make my own JNH top 5 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I just discovered Wyatt Earp this summer. It's glorious. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: I'll never understand the extensive fandom for Waterworld. It's… nice? Ooooh, don't taunt me! Many reasons, and probably better served for the JNH thread than this. But it's partly personal: WATERWORLD was one of the first 10-15 soundtrack CDs I got, listened to it countless times, to the extent I know it by heart, so it's imbued with immense nostalgia. Right there when my film music fandom first exploded. But also the music itself -- from the swashbuckling stuff to the delightful ethnic colours (esp. flutes and percussion) to some ABYSS-ian awe and wonder to glorious New Age-ish textures ("Swimming" is one of the best film cues ever written). It's not only my fav JNH, it's also my 10th favourite score of all time. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I share your feelings, completely, @Thor I feel the same way... for GRAND CANYON. It happens to be my 4th favourite score of all time. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,349 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1. Unbreakable 2. King Kong 3. Signs 4. The Village 5. The Happening Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, GerateWohl said: 5. The Happening Rubbish film; great score. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: I share your feelings, completely, @Thor I feel the same way... for GRAND CANYON. It happens to be my 4th favourite score of all time. Listened to it last night. Unfortunately it didn't do anything for me. Now, I'm listening to Falling Down (I think it was in @Thor's top 5 list?), and again I'm not feeling it... @Thor what did you like of it? A lot of it seems like nonedescript music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Discovering Tomb Raider - The Cradle of Life by Silvestri - The Deluxe Edition. Like he says himself in the booklet, he wrote this score quickly (to replace a rejected score by another composer) and mostly by instinct. It's a beat-driven score, very electronic, so I think it have a sense to listen to it in his complete form. Nice score to work by! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Quote Listened to it last night. Unfortunately it didn't do anything for me. Now, I'm listening to Falling Down (I think it was in @Thor's top 5 list?), and again I'm not feeling it... @Thor what did you like of it? A lot of it seems like nonedescript music... As is always the case with JNH, he's brilliant at capturing cityscapes. The beauty, the ugliness, the general ambiance. FALLING DOWN is masterful at this. The chugging pulse reflecting the heat. When he warps "London Bridge is Falling Down", that is also a brilliant move. But as far as JNH cityscapes are concerned, I think ultimately I would have to pick THE SAINT OF FORTH WASHINGTON instead. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Also, 'Falling Down' has an edge (the electronic stuff is blended most expertly) that his tries at traditional orchestral scoring didn't have back then. Only when he blended both his scores became really unique (and didn't sound like that kind of polished but faceless orchestrator stuff anymore that was so typical of the early-to-mid 90's). Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Kundun (Philip Glass) I can't understand how this was nominated for an Oscar. Ok, maybe it added much to the film, I don't know, I haven't watched it. I actually like a very small amount of minimalistic scores. I think minimalistic music doesn't lead anywhere. It just goes on and on without purpose and sense of direction. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Just now, filmmusic said: I actually like a very small amount of minimalistic scores. Like... A minimal amount? Jurassic Shark and filmmusic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, filmmusic said: Kundun (Philip Glass) I can't understand how this was nominated for an Oscar. Ok, maybe it added much to the film, I don't know, I haven't watched it. I actually like a very small amount of minimalistic scores. I think minimalistic music doesn't lead anywhere. It just goes on and on without purpose and sense of direction. I agree with your criticism of minimalism in connection to this score. However, minimalism doesn't always go nowhere, such as in Glass' magnificent score to The Hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: However, minimalism doesn't always go nowhere, such as in Glass' magnificent score to The Hours. Actually this is my favourite Glass score, and one of my favourite minimalistic scores. However, I prefer Nyman and Korzeniowski (I guess their scores are considered minimalistic?) to Glass's repeating patterns. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Actually this is my favourite Glass score, and one of my favourite minimalistic scores. However, I prefer Nyman and Korzeniowski (I guess their scores are considered minimalistic?) to Glass's repeating patterns. I've recently started to like Nyman's music, but I still haven't warmed up to The Piano. And I haven't managed to get into Korzeniowski. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: And I haven't managed to get into Korzeniowski. I think his theme for A Single Man, is one of the best themes of the last 20 years. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Kundun (Philip Glass) I can't understand how this was nominated for an Oscar. Ok, maybe it added much to the film, I don't know, I haven't watched it. It did, and 'Escape to India' is a phenomenal final cue that is a little journey in itself. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Actually this is my favourite Glass score, and one of my favourite minimalistic scores. However, I prefer Nyman and Korzeniowski (I guess their scores are considered minimalistic?) to Glass's repeating patterns. I'm a Nyman fan, but I'd say he's much more of a hardcore minimalist than Glass (post 1980 or so; obviously his early stuff is a different matter). Later Glass deviates even more from "dogmatic" minimalism, while Nyman supposedly was the one who came up with the term in the first place, so it even seems logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I prefer Nyman for the simple reason that many of his scores feel much more romantic and/or passionate. Can't get enough of stuff like 'The Claim'. Jurassic Shark and filmmusic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, filmmusic said: Listened to it last night. Unfortunately it didn't do anything for me. @Thor How can you not like "Mack And Claire's Dream", or the (granted Copelandesque) "Fanfare"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Die Hard. Listened to my own 1-hour selection from the 30th Anniversary set. I generally enjoy this in its entirety but this is a nice and trim alternate playlist - 55 minutes of score plus two source cues at the end. Karol Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, crocodile said: Die Hard. Listened to my own 1-hour selection from the 30th Anniversary set. I generally enjoy this in its entirety but this is a nice and trim alternate playlist - 55 minutes of score plus two source cues at the end. Karol Nice. We watched this the other night. First time with the kids. (Boy they swear a lot in this movie.) What an amazing movie. I clearly was not as familiar with the score for Aliens in 1988 as I am now. When it just jumped into Resolution and Hyperspace my head nearly exploded. filmmusic and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tallguy said: What an amazing movie. Love it too! They don't make them like this anymore! But I'm not familiar at all with the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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