Incanus 5,714 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Checkmate/Rhythm in Motion by John Williams: Nice collection of cool and snazzy crime jazz from the 1960's and wonderfully orchestrated standard big band tunes in one package. A swinging experience.Rosewood (Expanded Score (LLL)) by John Williams: A very interesting expansion of a score that I have begun to appreciate more only recently and this set has helped in it even more. Williams' more mature writing is combined with his Americana in orchestral and soloist guise as he uses the bluegrass, blues and folksy elements to a great effect in this score set in deep South. The way he conjures time and place is exemplary but he always retains a dramatic element in his music, the score never becoming entirely source music, rather an evocation of the story's many facets and subtexts. Guitar, harmonica and solo gospel voice are highlighted as central sounds of the soundtrack. The trio of original gospel songs complement this experience well, featuring in the major setpieces of the work and forming in part the thematic groundwork of Rosewood. Jeff Bond's essay in the liner notes is yet again an entertaining storehouse of background information and a great track-by-track analysis, which refamiliarizes a person like me who hasn't seen the film in ages, with the plot and Williams' musical narrative. This score fuses together Williams previous efforts in rural Americana, which featured similar ingredients, small scale orchestra and solo instruments, and his 1990's mature writing into an impressive package.The Fury (Expanded Score (LLL)) by John Williams: What can I say that hasn't been said already about this wonderful and powerful work. It is a more complete and sonically upgraded version of the Varese complete release of 2002. The score is a primal classic and will remain even more so after listening to this set. Bonus music is welcome if not incredibly essential for the listening experience. The calliope source for the Death on a Carousel is a wacky and eerie addition (5 somewhat different incarnations of the music for this scene can be heard on this double CD set) along with the 4 pieces of period source music (2 songs courtesy of the then only 18 year old Joseph Williams), making The Fury musical presentation finally just about as complete as possible. Julie Kirgo's liner notes feature a lively essay on the film and the score, eschewing track-by-track analysis but providing insights into individual setpieces and notable cues of the score. Another impeccable release from LLL. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 The problem I have with LLL's Rosewood has nothing to do with the quality of the production or, in fact, the quality of music itself. It's just that, while an interesting effort, I cannot say it exactly translates into a smoooth 80 minute listen. It's an album to respect - not so much to enjoy. Superman: The Movie (the first full listen to the FSM presentation)Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I for one enjoy the whole Rosewood score. It may not be a huge symphonic rush but rather a smaller scale work, but it holds my attention from start to finish. I did however programme the 3 gospel songs into the main body of the score on my mp3player and they add suitable dramatic finale to the work. Similarly I included the two track featuring Shirley Caesar in this presentation.This required some editing to be entirely succesful (I joined both orchestral and soloist passages of the two Caesar tracks so that they include orchestra only and vocal performances) but I think I ended up with a pretty good complete score presentation.That said the original album is a fine listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Rosewood is what happens when JW goes out of the box. It's one of his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 First we need to establish what is actually in the box. Anyway, Incanus would you be so kind and share your playlist? Pretty please.I myself couldn't stop listening to Courage's Superman IV in the past two days (and that is exactly what I'm doing right now). Some things he does with Williams' material is quite bold and surprising (Down In Flu is an excellent example). Not necessarily what Williams would do, but that's exactly what makes this work so wonderful - it actually feels fresh and inspired and at the same time belongs to the series. Lex's is much more menacing in this one (probably because it is literally allied with Nuclear Man's theme). I counted 14 themes in there score (so far). It's so much fun.Forgot to say I love his own coda to the end credits.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I have kinda burnt out on the Curage superman,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Well it happens even to the best of scores.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 First we need to establish what is actually in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 It always bothered me the box is so light in that shot where he turns it around (at 0:07).Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangoisbaddest 1 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 TV Show: DaVinci's Demons. I'm an enormous Bear McCreary fan and tend to play games/watch shows solely because he's doing the music (much like Williams). The main character theme is a musical palindrome! Also there's a lot of period instrumentation and such. Pretty neat.Movie: The Avengers (yes, I know I'm a little behind on my new movie quota ). Really love how a couple of the themes from Captain America: The First Avenger managed to spill over into the score, though I am surprised and a bit disappointed that The Hulk didn't get one. Fun score, but nothing earth-shattering. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 First we need to establish what is actually in the box. Anyway, Incanus would you be so kind and share your playlist? Pretty please.KarolHere is my playlist. I had to do so some music editing but now it includes both of Shirley Caesar's solos and the 3 gospel songs. It basically contains the disc 1 of LLL set plus that aforementioned extra material from disc 2. I do not know if this is a 100% chronological but I found it a pretty good listening experience.1.Rosewood2.The Town of Sumner3.The Arrival of Mann4.Mann Goes Shopping/Mann Meets Scrappie5.Prayers at Dinner/The Wrights/War Drums6.Scrappie and Mann Bond/The Beating7.False Accusation8.The Lie/Arresting Aaron9.Roughing up Aaron/Aaron in Jail10.Sam's Murder11. Discovering Sam's Body/Mann's First Exit12. Exchanging Gifts/Cracker Mob13. Sarah is Shot/Attack on the House (I used the film version with the vocal solo as the opening and edited it to the purely orchestral alternate found on disc 1. It works surprisingly well.)14.Kids to the Woods/The House Burns15.Look Down, Lord16.The Fire/Fanny's Guilt17.The Klan Gathers/Wright's Decision/The Crackers Gather18.Mann Rescues the Kids19.Hide the Man, John/Wright's Dilemma/We Mee at Eight20.Mann Leads the Group21.Crossing the Road22. The Capture of Mann/Mann's Great Escape23. The Burning Town (Alternate & Film Version) (Here I open with the orchestral drums and edit the soloist film version found on disc 2 into the material. As no clean ending for Shirley Caesar's performance is available I let the lamenting strings that follow the vocal solo continue until I found a suitable place where I could fade out the piece satisfyingly.)24. Light My way25. The Freedom TrainPlaying these two pieces back to back creates an uplifting choral finale to the whole dramatic arc before the subsequent tracks wind the musical drama to a finish. I think Jeff Bond speculated that Freedom Train might have been meant to play during the second half of the train sequence.26. Sylvester Joins the Group (I cut the Burning Town section out, the music opening with the solo horn but I believe this whole track can be found on disc 2 track 14 Mann at Rosewood so you don't actually have to do any editing)27. After the Fire28. End Titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I was into it last October when it first came out, but I've been getting into Cloud Atlas as a film and score again lately. Tom Tykwer, Reinhold Heil and Johnny Klimek delivered a really original and engaging score for what I thought was an astronomically underappreciated film. Some beautiful themes, and really crafty developments of them. And a really delightful range of style, from the sensual Cloud Atlas Sextet, quasi-film noir music, some electronic stuff, with a more contemporary idiom that ties it together. The recording is also really satisfying too; being able to hear breathing and page turns in a modern score is a great thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Taking the plunge and listening to Man Of Steel on Spotify now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 You have my condolences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I finished listeningCasino Royale by David ArnoldHad to rinse the Zimmer out with a good orchestral score. Well actually I forgot how much electronics this score had, but man are they much better than MOS's synth sound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I follow Jason's footsteps as I begin Zimmer's inevitable masterpiece... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Salute to Hollywood by John Williams and Boston Pops: A very enjoyable collection of memorable Hollywood songs and themes, focusing more on the latter though, interpreted deftly by the Boston Pops. This album contains the only Williams conducted recording of his delightful romantically breezy Balloon Sequence and the wickedly entertaining Devil's Dance from The Witches of Eastwick, which is an obvious highlight to a JW fan. Song medleys featuring orchestral versions of classic Hollywood standards like When You Wish Upon a Star, Moonriver and Over the Rainbow offer more breezy experience, the whole album forming a nice facsimile of a Boston Pops concert. Even Horner's Somewhere Out There from Fievel has strayed in here but fits right in with the rest of the programme. Arrangements vary from traditional to inventive and curious but overall it is a great 60+ plunge into heart on your sleeve emotions and melodies only Hollywood could provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Also Man Of Steel, but I refuse to say the same things I already did in the other thread.After several weeks of pause, and constant looping of Star Trek Into Darkness, I'm listening to An Unexpected Journey again. I think there has never been another example of these proportions where a certain subject, in this case Middle Earth, has sparked such virtuosity in a composer.The music of The Hobbit comes from the heart and is simply magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I remember, being tired of all the 2013 scores, I played The Hobbit once. It was riveting and immensely gratifying! Even with some of my quips, I miss film music like that already...feels like its been an age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I also find myself returning to the music of The Hobbit more and more these days. It gives some kind of solace from the likes of Man of Steel and every other RCP influenced score out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So there was nothing this year you guys actually liked?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Nothing luminous and salvatory comes to mind at this very moment. Perhaps Star Trek Into Darkness. I have to admit that I have been enjoying a lot of older scores released by the specialty labels so much that those almost eclipse the new music for me. And the amount of new (and old) music that comes our way in a constant stream makes the exploration of all of it a full time job. And of course not everything that has come out since the beginning of the year is awful, far from it.Could you give some recommendations among the newer scores Karol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'd say STOKER, DISCONNECT, JACK THE GIANT SLAYER, OZ and tv's DA VINCI'S DEMONS are agreeable enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 What about Epic, Oz, Evil Dead, A Good Day to Die Hard, Jack the Giant Slayer, Frozen Planet, Escape from Tomorrow, Jack Reacher (technically speaking it is this year's release as the CD started shipping in January), Impressions of America? They're all really solid (at the very least). I've not seen a masterpiece in quite a while, if at all in the past decade or so. Originality is something we're not going to get anymore - our ears are too accustomed to so many musical tricks by now. However, there is plenty of stuff still enjoy out there.I need to check out Stoker and Disconnect then. Thanks, publicist.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Good recommendations and reminders! Thanks guys! I'll get right on those as soon as I can clear the JW backlog I accumulated in two months by getting half of his swinging 60's output and TV-scores in one go plus other JW releases. There are Penelope, Not With My Wife You Don't Vol 1 and Vol. 2, Ghostbreaker and Diamond Head sitting on my desk at this very moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Yes, I know. bought so much stuff in the past few months I now feel completely exhausted! I don't know if I can swallow anything with an S symbol on the cover!Oh and check out Elfman's Promised Land. It's a 2012 score but came out in Europe just last month or so. It's his Big Fish and Standard Operating Procedure making sweet love. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 All good scores Karol, but I'm just tired of them, and I wasn't impressed at all by STID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I liked Evil Dead. Bored by STID.I'll have to check out some you're mentioning.I'm eagerly awaiting whatever Hisaichi has written for the new Miyazaki film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Bored by STID.Me too. Jack and the Giant Slayer is more exciting, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Lately I've been mostly listening to folkloric and old music and my score listening has really dropped quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Tora! Tora! Tora! by Jerry GoldsmithUnlikely to be become a fan favorite on the scale of Star Trek or Alien, but probably one of his very best works. It's creative and intelligent, sparse and tense. Somewhat of a distant cousin to Planet of the Apes, but one that has aged much better. If there's one thing I regret is that this film wasn't made a decade later - the Bruce Botnick recording would have been brilliant. All I also need to point out La-La Land re-issue has one of the most gorgeously designed booklets in their whole catalogue. Twilight Zone - The Movie (FSM) - another one from his top listKarol publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Man of Steel by Hans ZimmerI'm not going to bother with comparisons to past Superman scores - no point of doing that. I'd rather focus on what Zimmer did (was trying to do?), as opposed to what he didn't (which seems to be basis for most criticism, I noticed). The fact is, the score is nowhere near as bad as people say. The ultimate pop icon gets the ultimate pop treatment... literally. The main thematic idea actually gets a bit more development than the ones in Batman films. Or, in fact, in most scores written by the infamous individual. Zimmer seems to alter it to suit both the Super and the Man aspects of the character. The New Age-like impressionistic synth music serves the topic well (the Krypton material), I think, and that also includes the use of voices. I'm less excited about the execution of action scenes, though. Still, I'm willing to accept it for what it is given that Zimmer was aiming for a more pop, almost Vangelis-like, sound. Not something to be treasured or re-listened on a regular basis, but at least I get the intent. A good pop album, as I said. Heard much, much worse things.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 For those of you who are interested in this type of thing, and happen to be in the area, Philly Orchestra is doing a Zelda concert July 25th.http://manncenter.org/events/2013-07-25/legend-of-zelda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 So there was nothing this year you guys actually liked?KarolSTID and Iron Man 3. The modern influences in IM3 are obvious but it doesn't sound as generic as the RCP. Of course I love Michael Giacchino's music so Trek has been getting a lot of playing time. I have OZ on order so I'll be hearing it in a few days.But outside of MG and JW, 90% of my purchases are from the specialty labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Seasons of the Vine - Bruce BroughtonLost in Space - Bruce BroughtonThe Rescuers Down Under - Bruce BroughtonI hope to God Spielberg will choose Broughton as his next go-to composer if something happens to JW. "knock on wood" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 For me, the landing cue from Goldsmith's score might be one of the very best things he's ever written. It's as good as s-f music gets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM0koGWbx6Q Karol The Landing from Alien is one of the greatest accomplishments by humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 probably not the best thing to do, because I really want to give HZ a fair shake in MOS but I listened to Superman last night and it's been awhile and even without the visuals the music accompaning the death of Jonathan is absolute incredible. It's also like getting punched in the gut. It hurts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Wow it seems even with threads having nothing to do with MOS whatsoever somebody's giving away spoilers. Sheesh. Could've at least used spoiler tags Joey.Anyways just got done listening toVery fun and at times exciting MI score from Giacchino. Seems like he was able to do more compared to his last MI score, which I also enjoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Wow it seems even with threads having nothing to do with MOS whatsoever somebody's giving away spoilers. Sheesh. Could've at least used spoiler tags Joey.Anyways just got done listening to very fun and at times exciting MI score from Giacchino. Seems like he was able to do more compared to his last MI score, which I also enjoyed. But if you close yoru eyes you'd swear it was his Star Trek score.Are you serious? Are you?Even a blind man can see I was talking about Superman. You know the Superman the movie. A 35 year old score.No where do I indicate that I was talking about Man of Steel, no where. JFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Oh and btw in Titanic the ship sinks at the end of the film.Either lonzoe's answer was an attempt in dry humour or he has been living in a cave and doesn't know anything about Superman.Not with My Wife You Don't by John Williams Not with My Wife You Don't Vol. 2 by John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Wow it seems even with threads having nothing to do with MOS whatsoever somebody's giving away spoilers. Sheesh. Could've at least used spoiler tags Joey.Anyways just got done listening to very fun and at times exciting MI score from Giacchino. Seems like he was able to do more compared to his last MI score, which I also enjoyed. But if you close yoru eyes you'd swear it was his Star Trek score.Are you serious? Are you?Even a blind man can see I was talking about Superman. You know the Superman the movie. A 35 year old score.No where do I indicate that I was talking about Man of Steel, no where. JFC.I apologize. I misread your comment. Oh and btw in Titanic the ship sinks at the end of the film.Either lonzoe's answer was an attempt in dry humour or he has been living in a cave and doesn't know anything about Superman.Not with My Wife You Don't by John Williams Not with My Wife You Don't Vol. 2 by John Williams There have been some versions where Jonathan Kent lived long after Clark became Superman. I overreacted and didn't want to know the character's fate until I've seen MOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Oh and btw in Titanic the ship sinks at the end of the film.Either lonzoe's answer was an attempt in dry humour or he has been living in a cave and doesn't know anything about Superman.Not with My Wife You Don't by John Williams Not with My Wife You Don't Vol. 2 by John Williams There have been some versions where Jonathan Kent lived long after Clark became Superman. I overreacted and didn't want to know the character's fate until I've seen MOS. Ah ok. A misinterpretation then. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Misinterpretation is the worst kind of interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 at this point I'm just curious to see how it'll work in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I am pretty sure it will bash you into submission much like the Dark Knight Rises did. My ears nearly bled after I saw that film from the merciless sonic barrage and publicist confirmed that this will be more of the same syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 SONIC BOOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 You betcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 WHAT?! SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, I JUST LISTENED TO MAN OF STEEL SOUNDTRACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brónach 1,302 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 WE CAN TALK OUTSIDE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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