Naïve Old Fart 12,504 Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 20 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Passionada Is that Lucius Malfoy? The bastard!
Edmilson 11,430 Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 15 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Is that Lucius Malfoy? The bastard! Yep, that's him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passionada#Cast Can't fault him for wanting to be the romantic lead in a comedy while doing so many villain roles (The Patriot, HP, Peter Pan) Naïve Old Fart 1
filmmusic 2,897 Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 Decent for a Jerry Goldsmith score. Is the Brian Tyler one better? I can't imagine how this was rejected!
Thor 9,334 Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 On 16/10/2024 at 9:06 PM, Edmilson said: You're welcome This might be right up your alley. You're right, Edmilson! It definitely was. Love it!
filmmusic 2,897 Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 I miss Goldenthal from the movies. A compilation masterpiece, although I don't generally like compilations.
Thor 9,334 Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 It's a fine performance, and a very worthwhile album, but as I said elsewhere, I wish there were more calm tracks and not so many and lengthy action-filled showpiece numbers. It becomes kinda overpowering eventually. But that's just my personal taste these days. Would have been more ecstatic about this album when I first got into Goldenthal in the 90s. Naïve Old Fart 1
Tallguy 6,633 Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 20 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Is that Lucius Malfoy? The bastard! It's Mirror Universe Malfoy. Naïve Old Fart 1
Edmilson 11,430 Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 Phone Booth And we're back into dark and gritty electronic territory. Weirdly I prefer this score's synths over those from Spy Game. It's a decent dark ambient music listening experience if you're in the mood for it. Trent Reznor and Atticuss Ross would've been more engaging though. Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas @Jurassic Shark's favorite HGW score. And he isn't wrong: this is great! Just old fashioned orchestral swashbuckling fun! It has memorable themes, nice drama, fun action and it's all incredibly entertaining. Remember when I said that I couldn't remember anything from the score to The Tigger Movie? Sinbad is another movie I watched a lot in my childhood (we were one of the 45 people that saw it in theaters and then we bought the DVD) and even then the music catched my attention. Gregson-Williams' themes are so good and well defined that I could name them even as a 10-year-old. Jurassic Shark and Trope 2
Edmilson 11,430 Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Imagine if there were sequels! I know, right? Sinbad is such a fun underrated little movie. It's tragic that in the early 2000s studios did so many great animated adventure movies for boys and almost all of them flopped: Titan A.E., Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Sinbad... Jurassic Shark 1
The Score Cleaner 9,265 Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, Edmilson said: It's tragic that in the early 2000s studios did so many great animated adventure movies and almost all of them flopped: Titan A.E., Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Sinbad... Fixed. Holko and LiterallyIconic 2
Thor 9,334 Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 I always thought SUBWAY was one of Serra's best scores - for the now-classic 1985 "cinema du look" film by Luc Besson. So funky, melodic and infectiously groovy. And moody. Carrying over some of the acidic jazz synthpop he did for their debut LE DERNIER COMBAT two years prior (which is still only available on the original LP, unfortunately). Slap bass, man! GerateWohl and Naïve Old Fart 2
Edmilson 11,430 Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 Veronica Guerin A combination of synths and Irish music, creating a nice melancholic atmosphere. A nice surprise from this marathon.
GerateWohl 6,362 Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 9 hours ago, Thor said: I always thought SUBWAY was one of Serra's best scores - for the now-classic 1985 "cinema du look" film by Luc Besson. So funky, melodic and infectiously groovy. And moody. Carrying over some of the acidic jazz synthpop he did for their debut LE DERNIER COMBAT two years prior (which is still only available on the original LP, unfortunately). Slap bass, man! I really liked that movie.
Tallguy 6,633 Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 22 hours ago, Edmilson said: I know, right? Sinbad is such a fun underrated little movie. It's tragic that in the early 2000s studios did so many great animated adventure movies for boys and almost all of them flopped: Titan A.E., Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Sinbad... The one thing that stuck with me on Sinbad was the sirens. That was pretty cool. Maybe I'll listen again. Titan A.E. is such a mixed bag. Damon is effortless, Barrymore is kind of there. Nathan Lane is... Something else. Janeane Garofolo is largely wasted. And I didn't know it at the time but the dialog couldn't be more Whedon if you mixed it up in a lab. I was living in Phoenix at the time so I remember when it almost instantly killed an entire studio. (I went to see Anastasia an it turned out there were a bunch of people from the studio there. I always sit through the credits, sure. But I've never heard people cheer when you get to the long list of technical credits! It was wonderful.) Atlantis and Treasure Planet are not only masterpieces but the get better with age.
Edmilson 11,430 Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 23 hours ago, Doo_liss said: Fixed. What I meant was that, in terms of marketing, these movies were targeted for boys, particularly the tween/teen boy demographic, who aren't exactly Disney fans and back in those days were more likely to watch, I dunno, Godzilla or X-Men or whatever. Of course girls could (and should!) watch them and love them as well, but in terms of target audience they were a bit more for boys. But I know this discussion is complicated and could go on and on, so anyway I accept the fix. 28 minutes ago, Tallguy said: The one thing that stuck with me on Sinbad was the sirens. That was pretty cool. Maybe I'll listen again. Titan A.E. is such a mixed bag. Damon is effortless, Barrymore is kind of there. Nathan Lane is... Something else. Janeane Garofolo is largely wasted. And I didn't know it at the time but the dialog couldn't be more Whedon if you mixed it up in a lab. I was living in Phoenix at the time so I remember when it almost instantly killed an entire studio. (I went to see Anastasia an it turned out there were a bunch of people from the studio there. I always sit through the credits, sure. But I've never heard people cheer when you get to the long list of technical credits! It was wonderful.) Atlantis and Treasure Planet are not only masterpieces but the get better with age. I saw Titan in theaters with my dad at age 7, I thought it was a little darker and more violent than what was I used for animated movies at the time. Had I been like 3 or 4 years older perhaps I'd appreciate it more. Haven't seen it since the 2000s though. Atlantis and TP are fucking awesome and JNH's score for them is perfection. Tallguy 1
Edmilson 11,430 Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 The Rundown Always nice when a Hollywood composer uses music from my own homeland. This fun and rather underrated movie is set in the Amazon rainforest so Harry infuses his score with typically Brazilian rhythms like samba. And there's some orchestra in there too, perfectly integrated with the electronics and the ethnic music. Another nice surprise! Man on Fire Wow that was rough to get through. Annoying headache-inducing rave-like electronics, including what appears to be a godawful remix of Clint Mansell's music for Requiem for a Dream, drowning some rather decent (and "Thomas Newman in Road to Perdition"-like) dramatic orchestra. I understand what HGW was doing here but this kind of music is not for me. I'm already dreading what I'm gonna encounter in Domino...
paleo 78 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 I finally, finally tracked down a copy of "Neverending Story II" by Robert Folk on CD, and it wasn't even that expensive. A pretty mediocre film, for sure, but the score: A thing of beauty! And one of my last holy grails. The album is short (and "graced" by a few pretty wretched pop songs), but all the highlights seem included. The opening cue is nearly perfect imo; I am listening to it over and over again. Two great themes, a wonderful opening (actually based on the main pop song), hauntingly beautiful distant choir and a pan flute... what more could you want? So, after all that praise - any other fans of that score here? :-) Thor 1
Thor 9,334 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, paleo said: I finally, finally tracked down a copy of "Neverending Story II" by Robert Folk on CD, and it wasn't even that expensive. A pretty mediocre film, for sure, but the score: A thing of beauty! And one of my last holy grails. The album is short (and "graced" by a few pretty wretched pop songs), but all the highlights seem included. The opening cue is nearly perfect imo; I am listening to it over and over again. Two great themes, a wonderful opening (actually based on the main pop song), hauntingly beautiful distant choir and a pan flute... what more could you want? So, after all that praise - any other fans of that score here? :-) Yes, that's a fine score indeed. One of those I regret selling/trading off. Not on the level of the Moroder/Doldinger original, of course (very few things are, as it's one of my alltime favourite scores....for a film to which I have an enormous nostalgic connection), but Folk makes the musical universe his own, while alluding to the original here and there. The songs are okay. paleo 1
paleo 78 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 I guess you have to grow up with the songs to like them more? The first movie didn't even have the Moroder song (or score elements) as part of its score in Germany, but the full Doldinger score. It therefore always seemed a bit weird to me that in much of the world the song is sort of considered the element binding both film together musically. Anyway, while I love the Doldinger score, I enjow Folks main theme more. So happy at the moment!
Thor 9,334 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 13 minutes ago, paleo said: I guess you have to grow up with the songs to like them more? The first movie didn't even have the Moroder song (or score elements) as part of its score in Germany, but the full Doldinger score. Really? That's weird. I mean, I get it, because Doldinger is German and Moroder is Italian (albeit German-speaking). But any other particular reason for why the German version did that?
paleo 78 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 Oh, you didn't know? As it is a German movie essentially (except for most of the cast), Doldinger was probably a natural choice for the director. The Moroder elements were inserted for the American market, replacing quite a few imo superior Doldinger cues. I only discovered that when being in the US many years later... and still can't stand the alternative score.
Thor 9,334 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 Ah yes, now that you mention it, I seem to recall something like that. The version that was broadcast in Scandinavia had the "combo" solution. Sorry to hear you can't stand it - I put both the Doldinger and Moroder components on equal footing. Love both dearly, and wouldn't be without any of them.
Thor 9,334 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 Some. But also because it's damn fine music in itself (not so surprising, since Moroder is one of my top 10 film composers).
paleo 78 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 Oh, really? I admit, I never gave him a second thought... his music just sounded so off to me in Neverending Story. Anything I should listen to to gain a new perspective on Moroder's music? You should definitely give the pure Doldinger score a chance, too.
Thor 9,334 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 I mean, it requires that one has an openness to the kind of electronic music he composed. If orchestral music is your only thing, there isn't much to find. AMERICAN GIGOLO, FOXES, CAT PEOPLE, SCARFACE, ELECTRIC DREAMS, METROPOLIS, MIDNIGHT EXPRESS, OVER THE TOP, ANOTHER WAY, MAMBA, IMPRESSIONEN UNTER WASSER, QUEEN OF SOUTH etc. etc. Love it all, as well as his studio albums. I'll look into that pure Doldinger thing. Naïve Old Fart 1
paleo 78 Posted October 21, 2024 Posted October 21, 2024 I'm not against electronic scores in principle, the "miss ratio" is just much higher than regarding orchestral music for me. I do like some scores by Vangelis and Maurice Jarre (including his electronic score portions, obviously), for example. But as for the Neverending Story, the case is similar to Legend by Tangerine Dream vs. Legend by Goldsmith imo. Hope you like Doldinger's score in its entirety. The Ivory Tower music and the score for sad scenes like Artax' death are really great in Doldinger's version, for example.
Popular Post Bespin Copilot 10,308 Posted October 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted October 23, 2024 I finally found quality time to listen to the expanded edition of "Solo" by John Powell. I loved it. It's rare for me to be truly amazed by an expanded edition these days. All the little nods to Williams' material are there, and the source cues add some breathing room to this well-rounded program. A great listening experience. GerateWohl, Naïve Old Fart, Jay and 2 others 4 1
Naïve Old Fart 12,504 Posted October 23, 2024 Posted October 23, 2024 23 minutes ago, bespinGPT said: I finally found quality time to listen to the expanded edition of "Solo" by John Powell. I loved it. It's rare for me to be truly amazed by an expanded edition these days. All the little nods to Williams' material are there, and the source cues add some breathing room to this well-rounded program. A great listening experience. Nice... and not a single GPT line to be read
The Score Cleaner 9,265 Posted October 23, 2024 Posted October 23, 2024 5 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Nice... and not a single GPT line to be read That's what it wants you to think
Thor 9,334 Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 Gorgeous score. One of the first I reviewed on the revamped Celluloid Tunes in 2018, albeit in Norwegian - Google Translated here. Jurassic Shark 1
filmmusic 2,897 Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 4 hours ago, Thor said: Gorgeous score. One of the first I reviewed on the revamped Celluloid Tunes in 2018, albeit in Norwegian - Google Translated here. I listened to it, because I usually follow your suggestions, but it didn't grab me to tell you the truth..
Thor 9,334 Posted October 24, 2024 Posted October 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I listened to it, because I usually follow your suggestions, but it didn't grab me to tell you the truth.. Oh, I could have told you that. It's not a score I associate with your taste. But thanks for checking it out without any heads-up! filmmusic 1
Bespin Copilot 10,308 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 John Williams vs Jerry Goldsmith (1970-1973) Patton (1970) The Cowboys (1972) Papillon (1973) The Long Goodbye (1973) Naïve Old Fart 1
Naïve Old Fart 12,504 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 A nice bunch, @bespinGPT! 4 hours ago, bespinGPT said: John Williams vs Jerry Goldsmith (1970-1973) For me, there is no need for a "vs". Both composers happily co-exist in my life. My favourite of the four, however, is 4 hours ago, bespinGPT said: by a country mile
Bespin Copilot 10,308 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: For me, there is no need for a "vs". Life is a battle! Williams vs Goldsmith vs Silvestri (1985-1988) Alan Silvestri - Back to The Future (1985) Jerry Goldsmith - Hoosiers (1986) John Williams - The Witches of Eastwick (1987) Alan Silvestri - Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)
Tallguy 6,633 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Overall? Hoosiers. Specific moments? Back to the Future. Sorry, Witches, I've never been that into it.
Tallguy 6,633 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Fine. I'll go listen to Witches of Eastwick. No need to throw Prequels at me. Bespin Copilot 1
Naïve Old Fart 12,504 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 1 hour ago, bespinGPT said: Life is a battle! Ok. If you're going to be like that... the gloves are definitely off. In descending order: 1/ THE WITCHES OF EASTWICK 2/ HOOSIERS 3/ WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT 4/ BACK TO THE FUTURE Tallguy and Bespin Copilot 1 1
GerateWohl 6,362 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 What's that Hoosiers movie? Looks like it's about jogging in the country site. When A Bridge Too Far was mentioned in the other thread I felt like listening again to that album. Yes, there is quite some marching carnival. But hey, that guy could write memorable melodies. By the way, I was thinking of creating a poll about which is the better collection of soundtrack suites, Chandos Movies or Film Fest Gent. I am quite undecided. Both are great collections. FFG might be the better recordings and more contemporary, but Chandos gave me the opportunity to discover some great music by British composers, that I wasn't aware of. Naïve Old Fart 1
Naïve Old Fart 12,504 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 10 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: What's that Hoosiers movie? Looks like it's about jogging in the country site. It's about a high school basketball team, in Indiana, in the 1950s, and it's among the all-time greatest sports films ever made. At the very least, it's the second best film about basketball. GerateWohl and Tallguy 1 1
GerateWohl 6,362 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Thanks. I don't think, I ever watched a sports movie about basketball. Don't know why. Or does Teen Wolf count?
Bespin Copilot 10,308 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 21 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: What's that Hoosiers movie? Looks like it's about jogging in the country site. "Hoosiers" tells the story of a pair of shoes dreaming of basketball stardom as they navigate the challenges of leading a ragtag team to victory, all while dodging puddles and avoiding mismatched socks. Naïve Old Fart and GerateWohl 2
Naïve Old Fart 12,504 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 12 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Thanks. I don't think, I ever watched a sports movie about basketball. Don't know why. Or does Teen Wolf count? No it bloody well does not count!
Bespin Copilot 10,308 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 20 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's about a high school basketball team, in Indiana, in the 1950s You are not the first to completely miss the true point of the film.
Naïve Old Fart 12,504 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 Which is..? Critique of small town Americana? "David and Goliath"? Beating the odds?
Bespin Copilot 10,308 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 8 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Which is..? The true point of the film is that sometimes, it's the shoes that carry the dreams, not just the players! Naïve Old Fart 1
Naïve Old Fart 12,504 Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 I think that there are many truths in HOOSIERS, your comment certainly being one of them. Yes, HOOSIERS is a fairy tale, and it's a nice, cozy fairy tale, completely unlikely the Brothers Grimm. GerateWohl, however, wanted a description of the film, and I offered a brief overview. It's a quiet, lovely film, that focuses on determination, and courage, and it demands to be seen by the largest audience possible. It's still the second best basketball film.
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