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Decent for a Jerry Goldsmith score. 

Is the Brian Tyler one better?

I can't imagine how this was rejected!

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On 16/10/2024 at 9:06 PM, Edmilson said:

You're welcome :) This might be right up your alley. 

 

You're right, Edmilson! It definitely was. Love it!

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I miss Goldenthal from the movies.

 

A compilation masterpiece, although I don't generally like compilations.

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It's a fine performance, and a very worthwhile album, but as I said elsewhere, I wish there were more calm tracks and not so many and lengthy action-filled showpiece numbers. It becomes kinda overpowering eventually. But that's just my personal taste these days. Would have been more ecstatic about this album when I first got into Goldenthal in the 90s.

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Phone Booth

 

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And we're back into dark and gritty electronic territory. Weirdly I prefer this score's synths over those from Spy Game. It's a decent dark ambient music listening experience if you're in the mood for it. Trent Reznor and Atticuss Ross would've been more engaging though.

 

Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas

 

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@Jurassic Shark's favorite HGW score. And he isn't wrong: this is great! Just old fashioned orchestral swashbuckling fun! It has memorable themes, nice drama, fun action and it's all incredibly entertaining.

 

Remember when I said that I couldn't remember anything from the score to The Tigger Movie? Sinbad is another movie I watched a lot in my childhood (we were one of the 45 people that saw it in theaters and then we bought the DVD) and even then the music catched my attention. Gregson-Williams' themes are so good and well defined that I could name them even as a 10-year-old.

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1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Imagine if there were sequels!

I know, right? Sinbad is such a fun underrated little movie.

 

It's tragic that in the early 2000s studios did so many great animated adventure movies for boys and almost all of them flopped: Titan A.E., Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Sinbad...

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I always thought SUBWAY was one of Serra's best scores - for the now-classic 1985 "cinema du look" film by Luc Besson. So funky, melodic and infectiously groovy. And moody. Carrying over some of the acidic jazz synthpop he did for their debut LE DERNIER COMBAT two years prior (which is still only available on the original LP, unfortunately). Slap bass, man!

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Veronica Guerin

 

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A combination of synths and Irish music, creating a nice melancholic atmosphere. A nice surprise from this marathon.

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9 hours ago, Thor said:

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I always thought SUBWAY was one of Serra's best scores - for the now-classic 1985 "cinema du look" film by Luc Besson. So funky, melodic and infectiously groovy. And moody. Carrying over some of the acidic jazz synthpop he did for their debut LE DERNIER COMBAT two years prior (which is still only available on the original LP, unfortunately). Slap bass, man!

I really liked that movie. 

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22 hours ago, Edmilson said:

I know, right? Sinbad is such a fun underrated little movie.

 

It's tragic that in the early 2000s studios did so many great animated adventure movies for boys and almost all of them flopped: Titan A.E., Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Sinbad...

 

The one thing that stuck with me on Sinbad was the sirens. That was pretty cool. Maybe I'll listen again.

 

Titan A.E. is such a mixed bag. Damon is effortless, Barrymore is kind of there. Nathan Lane is... Something else. Janeane Garofolo is largely wasted. And I didn't know it at the time but the dialog couldn't be more Whedon if you mixed it up in a lab.

 

I was living in Phoenix at the time so I remember when it almost instantly killed an entire studio. (I went to see Anastasia an it turned out there were a bunch of people from the studio there. I always sit through the credits, sure. But I've never heard people cheer when you get to the long list of technical credits! It was wonderful.)

 

Atlantis and Treasure Planet are not only masterpieces but the get better with age.

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23 hours ago, Doo_liss said:

Fixed.

What I meant was that, in terms of marketing, these movies were targeted for boys, particularly the tween/teen boy demographic, who aren't exactly Disney fans and back in those days were more likely to watch, I dunno, Godzilla or X-Men or whatever. Of course girls could (and should!) watch them and love them as well, but in terms of target audience they were a bit more for boys. 

 

But I know this discussion is complicated and could go on and on, so anyway I accept the fix.

 

28 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

 

The one thing that stuck with me on Sinbad was the sirens. That was pretty cool. Maybe I'll listen again.

 

Titan A.E. is such a mixed bag. Damon is effortless, Barrymore is kind of there. Nathan Lane is... Something else. Janeane Garofolo is largely wasted. And I didn't know it at the time but the dialog couldn't be more Whedon if you mixed it up in a lab.

 

I was living in Phoenix at the time so I remember when it almost instantly killed an entire studio. (I went to see Anastasia an it turned out there were a bunch of people from the studio there. I always sit through the credits, sure. But I've never heard people cheer when you get to the long list of technical credits! It was wonderful.)

 

Atlantis and Treasure Planet are not only masterpieces but the get better with age.

I saw Titan in theaters with my dad at age 7, I thought it was a little darker and more violent than what was I used for animated movies at the time. Had I been like 3 or 4 years older perhaps I'd appreciate it more. Haven't seen it since the 2000s though.

 

Atlantis and TP are fucking awesome and JNH's score for them is perfection.

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The Rundown

 

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Always nice when a Hollywood composer uses music from my own homeland. This fun and rather underrated movie is set in the Amazon rainforest so Harry infuses his score with typically Brazilian rhythms like samba. And there's some orchestra in there too, perfectly integrated with the electronics and the ethnic music. Another nice surprise!

 

Man on Fire

 

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Wow that was rough to get through. Annoying headache-inducing rave-like electronics, including what appears to be a godawful remix of Clint Mansell's music for Requiem for a Dream, drowning some rather decent (and "Thomas Newman in Road to Perdition"-like) dramatic orchestra. I understand what HGW was doing here but this kind of music is not for me.

 

I'm already dreading what I'm gonna encounter in Domino...

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I finally, finally tracked down a copy of "Neverending Story II" by Robert Folk on CD, and it wasn't even that expensive. A pretty mediocre film, for sure, but the score: A thing of beauty! And one of my last holy grails. The album is short (and "graced" by a few pretty wretched pop songs), but all the highlights seem included. The opening cue is nearly perfect imo; I am listening to it over and over again. Two great themes, a wonderful opening (actually based on the main pop song), hauntingly beautiful distant choir and a pan flute... what more could you want? So, after all that praise - any other fans of that score here? :-)

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7 minutes ago, paleo said:

I finally, finally tracked down a copy of "Neverending Story II" by Robert Folk on CD, and it wasn't even that expensive. A pretty mediocre film, for sure, but the score: A thing of beauty! And one of my last holy grails. The album is short (and "graced" by a few pretty wretched pop songs), but all the highlights seem included. The opening cue is nearly perfect imo; I am listening to it over and over again. Two great themes, a wonderful opening (actually based on the main pop song), hauntingly beautiful distant choir and a pan flute... what more could you want? So, after all that praise - any other fans of that score here? :-)

 

Yes, that's a fine score indeed. One of those I regret selling/trading off. Not on the level of the Moroder/Doldinger original, of course (very few things are, as it's one of my alltime favourite scores....for a film to which I have an enormous nostalgic connection), but Folk makes the musical universe his own, while alluding to the original here and there. The songs are okay.

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I guess you have to grow up with the songs to like them more? The first movie didn't even have the Moroder song (or score elements) as part of its score in Germany, but the full Doldinger score. It therefore always seemed a bit weird to me that in much of the world the song is sort of considered the element binding both film together musically. Anyway, while I love the Doldinger score, I enjow Folks main theme more. So happy at the moment!

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13 minutes ago, paleo said:

I guess you have to grow up with the songs to like them more? The first movie didn't even have the Moroder song (or score elements) as part of its score in Germany, but the full Doldinger score. 

 

Really? That's weird. I mean, I get it, because Doldinger is German and Moroder is Italian (albeit German-speaking). But any other particular reason for why the German version did that?

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Oh, you didn't know? As it is a German movie essentially (except for most of the cast), Doldinger was probably a natural choice for the director. The Moroder elements were inserted for the American market, replacing quite a few imo superior Doldinger cues. I only discovered that when being in the US many years later... and still can't stand the alternative score.

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Ah yes, now that you mention it, I seem to recall something like that. The version that was broadcast in Scandinavia had the "combo" solution. Sorry to hear you can't stand it - I put both the Doldinger and Moroder components on equal footing. Love both dearly, and wouldn't be without any of them.

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Nostalgia ;-)

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Some. But also because it's damn fine music in itself (not so surprising, since Moroder is one of my top 10 film composers).

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Oh, really? I admit, I never gave him a second thought... his music just sounded so off to me in Neverending Story. Anything I should listen to to gain a new perspective on Moroder's music? You should definitely give the pure Doldinger score a chance, too.

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I mean, it requires that one has an openness to the kind of electronic music he composed. If orchestral music is your only thing, there isn't much to find. AMERICAN GIGOLO, FOXES, CAT PEOPLE, SCARFACE, ELECTRIC DREAMS, METROPOLIS, MIDNIGHT EXPRESS, OVER THE TOP, ANOTHER WAY, MAMBA, IMPRESSIONEN UNTER WASSER, QUEEN OF SOUTH etc. etc. Love it all, as well as his studio albums.

 

I'll look into that pure Doldinger thing.

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I'm not against electronic scores in principle, the "miss ratio" is just much higher than regarding orchestral music for me. I do like some scores by Vangelis and Maurice Jarre (including his electronic score portions, obviously), for example. But as for the Neverending Story, the case is similar to Legend by Tangerine Dream vs. Legend by Goldsmith imo. Hope you like Doldinger's score in its entirety. The Ivory Tower music and the score for sad scenes like Artax' death are really great in Doldinger's version, for example.

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23 minutes ago, bespinGPT said:

I finally found quality time to listen to the expanded edition of "Solo" by John Powell.

I loved it.

It's rare for me to be truly amazed by an expanded edition these days.

All the little nods to Williams' material are there, and the source cues add some breathing room to this well-rounded program.

A great listening experience.

 

Nice... and not a single GPT line to be read :lol:

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Gorgeous score. One of the first I reviewed on the revamped Celluloid Tunes in 2018, albeit in Norwegian - Google Translated here.

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4 hours ago, Thor said:

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Gorgeous score. One of the first I reviewed on the revamped Celluloid Tunes in 2018, albeit in Norwegian - Google Translated here.

I listened to it, because I usually follow your suggestions, but it didn't grab me to tell you the truth..

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4 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

I listened to it, because I usually follow your suggestions, but it didn't grab me to tell you the truth..

 

Oh, I could have told you that. :) It's not a score I associate with your taste. But thanks for checking it out without any heads-up!

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A nice bunch, @bespinGPT!

 

4 hours ago, bespinGPT said:

John Williams vs Jerry Goldsmith (1970-1973)

 

For me, there is no need for a "vs". Both composers happily co-exist in my life.

My favourite of the four, however, is

4 hours ago, bespinGPT said:

 

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by a country mile :)

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1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

For me, there is no need for a "vs".

 

Life is a battle!

 

Williams vs Goldsmith vs Silvestri (1985-1988)

  • Alan Silvestri - Back to The Future (1985)
  • Jerry Goldsmith - Hoosiers (1986)
  • John Williams - The Witches of Eastwick (1987)
  • Alan Silvestri - Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)

 

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Overall? Hoosiers. Specific moments? Back to the Future. Sorry, Witches, I've never been that into it.

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What's that Hoosiers movie? Looks like it's about jogging in the country site.

When A Bridge Too Far was mentioned in the other thread I felt like listening again to that album. 

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Yes, there is quite some marching carnival. But hey, that guy could write memorable melodies. 

 

By the way, I was thinking of creating a poll about which is the better collection of soundtrack suites, Chandos Movies or Film Fest Gent. 

I am quite undecided. Both are great collections. FFG might be the better recordings and more contemporary, but Chandos gave me the opportunity to discover some great music by British composers, that I  wasn't aware of.

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10 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

What's that Hoosiers movie? Looks like it's about jogging in the country site.

It's about a high school basketball team, in Indiana, in the 1950s, and it's among the all-time greatest sports films ever made.

At the very least, it's the second best film about basketball.

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Thanks.

I don't think, I ever watched a sports movie about basketball. Don't know why.

Or does Teen Wolf count?

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21 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

What's that Hoosiers movie? Looks like it's about jogging in the country site.


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"Hoosiers" tells the story of a pair of shoes dreaming of basketball stardom as they navigate the challenges of leading a ragtag team to victory, all while dodging puddles and avoiding mismatched socks.

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12 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

Thanks.

I don't think, I ever watched a sports movie about basketball. Don't know why.

Or does Teen Wolf count?

No it bloody well does not count! :lol:

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20 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

 

It's about a high school basketball team, in Indiana, in the 1950s

 

You are not the first to completely miss the true point of the film.

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I think that there are many truths in HOOSIERS, your comment certainly being one of them.

Yes, HOOSIERS is a fairy tale, and it's a nice, cozy fairy tale, completely unlikely the Brothers Grimm.

GerateWohl, however, wanted a description of the film, and I offered a brief overview.

It's a quiet, lovely film, that focuses on determination, and courage, and it demands to be seen by the largest audience possible.

It's still the second best basketball film.

 

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