Jurassic Shark 13,911 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 He scored the one track Davis posted above. Davis and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: He scored the one track Davis posted above. JNH composed "Trip To Arrakis"?! Colour me gobsmacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,911 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: JNH composed "Trip To Arrakis"?! Colour me gobsmacked. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 4,848 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 17 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Eh? As far as I am aware, JNH did not score DUNE. It was orchestrated and conducted by Marty Paich. According to wikipedia: "Composer James Newton Howard made his film score debut on the film, co-composing the cue "Trip to Arrakis" with Paich." Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,483 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Surely they got him on board based on their previous collaborations - conductor and orchestrator on Toto IV, and also Isolation and his own album with Paich and the Porcaros (I still haven't heard any of that), although those latter two are both from 1984, so I don't know if they pre- or postdate Dune. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,911 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Not exactly a score, but I couldn't find a more relevant thread to post it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,911 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Ellington's Caravan was never recorded by Benny for a commercial release, but thankfully this set contains the following great arrangement, in quite decent sound. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,385 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I'm not sure how much of this has been used in the film (maybe none?), but it's a good score. The thing is, since years ago that I started the anti-depressants, I cannot "feel" or even cry in dramatic scores (same goes for films), and I'm bugged about it. Do you know what I mean? Jurassic Shark and Thor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,849 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 You do know that John Williams' dad played with Benny Goodman, JS? Alas, I've not been able to find which recordings, and if they're available to hear somewhere online. 10 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I'm not sure how much of this has been used in the film (maybe none?), but it's a good score. The thing is, since years ago that I started the anti-depressants, I cannot "feel" or even cry in dramatic scores (same goes for films), and I'm bugged about it. Do you know what I mean? Sorry to hear that, Gerate. Delerue is one that always gets to me, but not necessarily PLATOON. The Barber piece is the takeaway there anyway. I hope things turn around for you, because film music and feelings go hand in hand. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,911 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 18/01/2025 at 6:22 PM, Thor said: You do know that John Williams' dad played with Benny Goodman, JS? Alas, I've not been able to find which recordings, and if they're available to hear somewhere online. I didn't know that! Do you know if it was pre or post WW2? Edit: A quick search on Discogs reveals that Johnny Williams played on the following tracks during 1931-33: A5 Not That I Care A6 Help Yourself To Happiness A7 Love Letters In The Sand A8 I Don't Know Why https://www.discogs.com/release/7916105-Benny-Goodman-And-His-Orchestra-The-Early-Years This was before the swing era really took off and therefore not among Benny's iconic recordings, but I'll certainly seek them out. Edit 2: I missed this info about the specific tracks: A5 - A8 recorded NYC, September 18th 1931; A7, A8 as The Radiolites (a Columbia records "house" band name at the time); apart from musicians mentioned above, there is one unknown trumpet, as well as unknown guitar and bass players. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,849 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Oooh. Nice sleuthing, JS. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 While travelling this morning: Dinosaur Jupiter Ascending Spider-Man 2 Jurassic Park III Karol Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, crocodile said: While travelling this morning: Dinosaur Jupiter Ascending Spider-Man 2 Jurassic Park III Karol Nice. Three career-bests, and a very underrated sequel score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 1,091 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 ENTRAPMENT - CHRISTOPHER YOUNG Passable but not his best. I do like the main theme though, particularly in its more romantic variations and in the finale cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,176 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 25 minutes ago, LSH said: ENTRAPMENT - CHRISTOPHER YOUNG Passable but not his best. I do like the main theme though, particularly in its more romantic variations and in the finale cue. Music to avoid lasers to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,622 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Harry Gregson-Williams - Disneynature's Monkeys Was finally able to resume my Harryathon. This 2015 score is pretty fun, combining orchestra, world music and even some rock elements. Next: The Martian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,622 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 The Martian Nice electronic+orchestra textures. HGW did choose well his synths this time. Overall it can get a little boring, especially in complete score form. But when it's good, it's really good. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 1,091 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 hours ago, Meredith McKay said: Music to avoid lasers to. For Catherine, the plot doesn’t do much more than allow her arse to occupy significant screen time while she wiggles through laser grids. I do like the film, for reasons. 2 hours ago, Edmilson said: The Martian Nice electronic+orchestra textures. HGW did choose well his synths this time. Overall it can get a little boring, especially in complete score form. But when it's good, it's really good. It’s an ok score. Some original textures that I haven’t heard HGW do before. The Making Water cue is fantastic though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 18/01/2025 at 12:22 PM, Thor said: Sorry to hear that, Gerate. Delerue is one that always gets to me, but not necessarily PLATOON. The Barber piece is the takeaway there anyway. I hope things turn around for you, because film music and feelings go hand in hand. Why did you call him by the wrong name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,385 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, Jay said: Why did you call him by the wrong name? Yeah, I was confused too. I guess he mistook me for GerateWohl, but no big deal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,849 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 17 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Yeah, I was confused too. I guess he mistook me for GerateWohl, but no big deal.. Yup, sorry, happens sometimes when you read too fast. filmmusic and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,385 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 A "wonderful" score by Hisaishi, resembling a Ghibli score.. (maybe too much Glockenspiel for my taste though) Balanced orchestration, and feel-good melodies. Hisaishi is a much better composer than Western film composers that are generally worshipped (and awarded)! GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,866 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 My latest score rip project, from a beloved hungarian political satire, first film score of a jazz pianist with his own band who went on to compose many others, featuring jazzy/dance variations on the same theme but also some standout versions like a dark heavy low one, an (electric) fairground organ waltz, a guitar+flute version and soviet workers' marches. Davis and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,849 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This was definitely a highlight of 2021. I hung out a bit with Palomares in Pula, Croatia a couple of years prior to this coming out, and wasn't aware of his talent at the time. But great pastiche of various classical idioms, as well as heartfelt, melodic orchestral writing that is easily likeable. Two volumes released, and between them you can whittle it down to a pretty sweet programme, I think. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,970 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 So, I gathered the music I have on CD that represents the best scores of the 60s. Here we go... starting in 1960. Ernest Gold - Exodus (Suite) - Rerecording by the City of Prague Philh O Prelude Summer in Cyprus Ari The Tent - Karen / Lorries Love is Where You Find It Goodbye / Intermission In Jerusalem Prison Break Dawn / Finale Elmer Bernstein - The Magnificent Seven - Rerecording by Kunzel (Epics) Theme Bernard Herrmann - Psycho Suite - Rerecording by Mauceri (The Genius of Film Music, 1960s to 1980s) Psycho - A Narrative for String Orchestra Alex North - Spartacus Spartacus - Main Title (Varèse Sarabande 40 Years of Great Film Music) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 It's a damn good start, Bes, but you really need to deep dive into SPARTACUS. It's a great score. It doesn't quite reach the heights of CLEOPATRA, but it's still special. bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,970 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, bespinGPT said: So, I gathered the music I have on CD that represents the best scores of the 60s. Here we go... starting in 1960. Ernest Gold - Exodus (Suite) - Rerecording by the City of Prague Philh O Prelude Summer in Cyprus Ari The Tent - Karen / Lorries Love is Where You Find It Goodbye / Intermission In Jerusalem Prison Break Dawn / Finale Elmer Bernstein - The Magnificent Seven - Rerecording by Kunzel (Epics) Theme Bernard Herrmann - Psycho Suite - Rerecording by Mauceri (The Genius of Film Music, 1960s to 1980s) Psycho - A Narrative for String Orchestra Alex North - Spartacus Selections Spartacus - Main Title (Varèse Sarabande 40 Years of Great Film Music) 1961/1962 Part I Dimitri Tiomkin - The Guns of Navaronne - Rerecording by Charles Gerhardt Prelude Miklós Rózsa - El Cid - Rerecording by Kunzel (The Great Adventure Album) Fanfare and Entry of the Nobles Miklós Rózsa - King of Kings Suite - Rerecording by Kunzel (Rózsa - Three Choral Suites) King of Kings Suite Maurice Jarre - Lawrence of Arabia Suite - Rerecording by Jarre "The Emotion and the Strenght" Lawrence of Arabia Suite Henry Mancini - Hatari! Theme from Hatari! Baby Elephant Walk Your Father's Feathers Night Side Crocodile, Go Home 3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's a damn good start, Bes, but you really need to deep dive into SPARTACUS. It's a great score. It doesn't quite reach the heights of CLEOPATRA, but it's still special. Is there any complete rerecording of Spartacus worth of mention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,483 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, bespinGPT said: Bernard Herrmann - North by Northwest Suite - Rerecording by Joel McNelly North by Northwest is from '59. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, bespinGPT said: Is there any complete rerecording of Spartacus worth of mention? There's a cheap 2-CD set, and, of course, there's the Varèse (?) almost-complete edition, but a lot of it is in mono, so... you pays yer money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,970 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: North by Northwest is from '59. SHHHH!!!! ___ 1962 - Part II Laurence Rosenthal - The Miracle Worker Suite - Rerecording by Brossé (Music for Film and Television) The Miracle Worker Suite Bronislaw Kaper - Mutiny on the Bounty Suite - Rerecording by Mauceri (The Genius Of Film Music 1960s To 1980s) Mutiny on the Bounty Suite Franz Waxman - Taras Bulba - Rerecording by Mauceri (The Genius Of Film Music 1960s To 1980s) Taras Bulba - The ride of the cossacks Elmer Bernstein - To Kill A Mockingbird - Rerecording by Royal Scottish National Orchestra Main Title Atticus Accepts The Case,Roll In The Tire Ewell's Hatred Jem's Discovery Ewell Regret It End Title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,622 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: North by Northwest is from '59. It probably only came out in other countries in the following year(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 461 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I am currently booking additional tickets for friends to attend the London Shore Fest https://londonsoundtrackfestival.com/event/lsf-gala-concert/ but with that schedule, I am thinking they will have no time to play the greatest Shoreness: Khazad Dum. 'Mvt1' is included on the sheet, but surely they have to do this. There'll be a rebellion if some of the wild Shore stuff is not included in the programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,970 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1963/64... Henry Mancini - Charade - Rerecorded by Kunzel (Mancini's Greatest Hits) Charade Alex North - Cleopatra - Rerecorded by Mauceri (The Genius of Film Music, 1960s to 1980s) Cleopatra Symphony, 1st movement Elmer Bernstein - The Great Escape - Great Composers, Varèse Sarabande Main Title Laurence Rosenthal - Becket Suite - Rerecorded by Brossé (Music for Film and Television) Becket Suite John Barry - Goldfinger (OST) Main Title Into Miami Alpine Drive / Auric's Factory Dawn Raid on Fort Knox Henry Mancini - The Pink Panther (OST) The Pink Panther Theme It Had Better Be Tonight (Instrumental Royal Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,756 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Half of Gangster Squad. Not even February yet and already the worst score of my entire year. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 9,622 Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 Danny Elfman - Hulk I think this is in my top 10 Elfman scores, as egregious as this opinion may be. I happen to love Elfman's "mature" era, from the mid 90s with Black Beauty and Mission Impossible all the way to the 2000s. And I think this movie was ideal to him, despite him coming late into the proccess to replace Mychael Danna. The repetitive six note Hulk theme on flute, I think Gerate Wohl pointed it was "copied" from something from The Planets, but to me this sound more like an attempt to emulate Bernard Herrmann, who was a huge influence for Elfman. This theme really helps sets this score apart from Spiderman because it gives the music a psychological thriller edge, almost Herrmannian. And I like how the Hulk themes are closely related to Betty's theme (aka the love theme). Almost like one is an inversion of the other. An expansion would be cool, though I don't know if many people would like it because it has some less than exciting cues. Still, the whole "tormented psychologically" aspect makes it really distinguished from other Elfman superhero works. GerateWohl, Davis, bespinGPT and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,385 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 10 hours ago, Edmilson said: I think this is in my top 10 Elfman scores I haven't seen the movie, and I haven't paid any attention to this score. Maybe I should re-evaluate.. edit: I just listened to the main titles. The thing I don't like in Elfman's "mature" era, as you call it, is that he usually doesn't have fully fledged themes, but some repetitive figures. Anyway, I'm listening to the whole ost now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,385 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Chiisai Ouchi (Joe Hisaishi) Charming little score, with a delicate, melancholic and nostalgic main waltz theme.. The only drawback I can find in this score is that most tracks are too short, around 1 minute or even less! * * * About Hulk: I listened to it too. Unfortunately it didn't do anything to me, apart from recognizing well constructed action cues. I would say that it was maybe due to not having seen the film, but then again, I haven't seen the film of the above score by Hisaishi I mentioned. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,420 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 11 hours ago, Edmilson said: The repetitive six note Hulk theme on flute, I think Gerate Wohl pointed it was "copied" from something from The Planets, but to me this sound more like an attempt to emulate Bernard Herrmann, who was a huge influence for Elfman. Actually it seems like nobody except me is hearing that similarity, and I have to admit, it is not a note by note similarity, but still for me most obvious. My favourite track from the score is "Captured", but it is also not clear how much this is based on material from Dana's rejected score. As I ready in "Torn Music" that especially for the ethnic percussion parts a lot from Dana's prepared work was adapted by Elfman for the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,622 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 HGW - Confirmation When I saw the name of the movie I thought it was something about the Catholic Church... But it's actually a political thriller from HBO about the confirmation of a Supreme Court Justice. Anyway, the score is incredibly boring. One of those you press play and moments later you forgot you had music playing because it's so uneventful and tedious. Just serious strings and piano, sometimes a brass instrument or a percussion appears... Sigh. Apparently only another Williams can make music for this kind of stuff that it's actually interesting (see JFK, Nixon and The Post). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,622 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 HGW - Live by Night Some parts are more interesting than his other crime thrillers, there's one decent action cue and the parts with Hugh Marsh's electric violin are nice. But by Rhllor, the rest of the score is EXCRUCIATINGLY BORING. Geez... If Harry was a superhero, his power would be to write music for crime thrillers that would put all the supervillains to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: HGW - Confirmation ... incredibly boring. One of those you press play and moments later you forgot you had music playing because it's so uneventful and tedious. Ah! You mean it's a bit like SPY GAME? I'll like it 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: HGW - Live by Night But by Rhllor, the rest of the score is EXCRUCIATINGLY BORING. Geez... ... and that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,622 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Naïve Old Fart said: Ah! You mean it's a bit like SPY GAME? I'll like it It's nothing like Spy Game. SG is actually interesting to listen, even when I don't completely enjoy what I'm listening to. The orchestra/electronic/choir textures are pretty good. After that, his music for these suspense movies is just so discrete and understated that you even forget you are listening to his music. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,849 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Yes, HGW is a composer best curated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LSH 1,091 Posted January 24 Popular Post Share Posted January 24 His magnum opus, IMO. It's not my 'go to' Newman but it is an astounding collection of everything he is good at. The soaring melodies, the quirky shit he does, the plaintive piano, and everything in between. I don't listen to it very often but it is such a rewarding experience. Top marks. Naïve Old Fart, Thor and Davis 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Brilliant, just... brilliant! Probably a top-5 Newman, for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 5,420 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 Magnolia - Jon Brion Inspired by the Paul Thomas Anderson discussion in the other thread I felt like putting on this one. A mixture of melancholic atmospheric chord meandering, some beautiful cues, that remind a little of Schindler's Workforce, and even a track of big band jazz. A good score for a calm winter day. For me it has some Howard Shore vibe to it. Tom Guernsey, Naïve Old Fart and crocodile 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Magnolia - Jon Brion Inspired by the Paul Thomas Anderson discussion in the other thread I felt like putting on this one. A mixture of melancholic atmospheric chord meandering, some beautiful cues, that remind a little of Schindler's Workforce, and even a track of big band jazz. A good score for a calm winter day. For me it has some Howard Shore vibe to it. It's a weird combo of the autumnal Shore, Zimmer and Williams (Schindler's List similarity). I like this score very much. Karol GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 STAR WARS EPISODE I: THE PHANTOM MENACE. The "complete" 2-CD edition. Say what you like about the film, and I know that a lot has been said about it (it's my second-favourite Star Wars film), but by Jiminy, this is - excuse me - a damn fine score! It's almost a masterpiece, and if it accompanied a more respected film, it would be considered a masterpiece. It's possibly the busiest Star Wars score (no jokes about "too many notes", thank you very much!), but it flows very well, indeed. It's rich, diverse, and "endlessly compelling" Great action pieces, coupled with some decent atmospheric passages, and some classic "inspirational" music, makes this an essential inclusion in JW's oeuvre. The recording is... adequate. It's a typical Shawn Murphy job, but it's acceptable. There is a lack of true mid-range, it's a little too sweet, it needs to be a tad drier, and a remastering is long overdue, but it's still listenable. A QQ: for those who do not like this edition (the presentation and not the music): What do you not like about it? Raiders of the SoundtrArk and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,622 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: A QQ: for those who do not like this edition (the presentation and not the music): What do you not like about it? Don't speak of such things, Richard! You will awaken The Thor! And then we are all done for! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Bring it on. I prefer a fair fight, to all this sneaking around Seriously though, why is the 2-CD version not liked? I'll be around when Thor wakes up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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