Faleel 5,346 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 He hates America! Which is why it should have a crappy hero theme? You're calling Aaron Copland crap? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Which is why it should have a crappy hero theme?Would you prefer the two-note Batman theme instead?No, I'd prefer it if he wrote themes that are neither barely indentifiable, nor sounding like a spoof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Yeah, the last thing we want in today's world of deadly earnest blockbuster crap presenting grim warriors and dire worlds is a bit of cheesy fun. He could have played it on a Casio watch for all i care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Which is why it should have a crappy hero theme?Would you prefer the two-note Batman theme instead?No, I'd prefer it if he wrote themes that are neither barely indentifiable, nor sounding like a spoof.Would you really argue that the duhhhhhh....DUHHHH of Batman is unidentifiable? I really don't buy that. Whether or not you like it is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Which is why it should have a crappy hero theme?Would you prefer the two-note Batman theme instead?No, I'd prefer it if he wrote themes that are neither barely indentifiable, nor sounding like a spoof.Would you really argue that the duhhhhhh....DUHHHH of Batman is unidentifiable? I really don't buy that. Whether or not you like it is another story.Wrong terminology. Should have said "interesting" instead of "indentifiable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Barry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 In honor of the day. One of my absolute favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 ROMEO & JULIET - Abel KorzeniowskiNot Korzeniowski's first score but his first one actually crushing a prior James Horner scoreTM so he finally might have arrived in Hollywood. Entrée! The film came and went without anyone making an effort to watch it - Horner, by all accounts, just showed them the finger when they requested a full-on rescore after some test screenings went awry, so things turned out not so well for all involved. With only a few weeks left to turn out his score, AK took his lead from Desplat's classically bittersweet TWILIGHT - NEW MOON score (talk about god moving in mysterious way; a classic play for the centuries now needs musical help from a current generation of illiterate junk) and produced a pleasant minimalist score recalling (sometimes retreading) Desplat, Glass and Michael Nyman in equal measure though it must be said that all the heavy sighs and breathings from a sea of pianos and strings tend to sound a bit superficial, lacking a stronger vision underneath (part of the problem is that his two main themes communicate nothing beyond classical-tinged romantic desperation). So it all goes by sounding very pretty indeed, fittingly featuring some short riffs on the very same James Horner's nightingale calls of BEAUTIFUL MIND as standout-moments, so Horner might rightfully claim to have been ended up in a R&J movie after all (try CHEEK OF THE NIGHT or TROOPING WITH CROWS).I can't help liking Korzeniowski's clean and focused über-romantic sound but i'm not sure how often he should play this card again - after the similar W. E., COPERNICUS STAR and A SINGLE MAN (the best one) there's time for other genres which i'm certain Korzeniowski can tackle equally expertly (ESCPAE FROM TOMORROW, while not a favourite of mine, is a testament to this). Incanus and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Romeo and Juliet is not a very complex score, but for a film developed by a jewellery producer it's probably more than we should have expected. Korzeniowski's theme is actually pretty memorable, didn't seem so at first. Might not seem like it, but it does benefit from repeat listens. Did you know A Beautiful Mind is actually Abel's favourite score from Horner? And he's a big Desplat fan. So your assessment is quite accurate. I'm not sure if Copernicus' Star is exactly in the same category, though. Different sort of writing entirely. There is a certain directness and simplicity in the writing, but that's not a bad thing. Not every score needs a complex counterpoint, atonal screeching and thundering action. I'm sure he could have conjured something more complex if he wanted to, he's equipped to do it, - after all he was a pupil of Penderecki. But the old master was apparently never interested in forcing his students to write like him, he thought it's better if they focus on their own aesthetic tastes. Sometimes less is more and that's what I like about Korzeniowski. But it would be nice to hear something else from him. Have you heard Battle for Terra? It's pretty good. Live Free or Die Hard and A Good Day to Die Hard - both unsubtle and more obnoxious riffs on Michael Kamen mannerisms. Great art they aren't, but the reverence to originals is admirable to say the least. After all, those themes and motifs aren't exactly John Williams classics. That they chose to keep that sound largely intact is somewhat of a miracle. Entertaining.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Was Romeo & Juliet ever released on CD? I remember waiting but it got cancelled or something. Don't think I ever listened to ti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 It got a Sony Classical release in Europe.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Jaws the Collector's Edition.Becoming more and more fond of "Father & Son" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Star Trek Into DarknessSublime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Jaws the Collector's Edition.Becoming more and more fond of "Father & Son"It has a sort of oddly somber, tender and foreboding mixture of moods in it. I like it a lot too. That type of pensive mood is quite unique to that track in the score. I have always felt it is a companion piece to the Jaws 2 track Brody Misunderstood. Sir Hilary Bray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Romeo and Juliet is not a very complex score, but for a film developed by a jewellery producer it's probably more than we should have expected. Korzeniowski's theme is actually pretty memorable, didn't seem so at first. Might not seem like it, but it does benefit from repeat listens. Did you know A Beautiful Mind is actually Abel's favourite score from Horner? And he's a big Desplat fan. So your assessment is quite accurate. I'm not sure if Copernicus' Star is exactly in the same category, though. Different sort of writing entirely. There is a certain directness and simplicity in the writing, but that's not a bad thing. Not every score needs a complex counterpoint, atonal screeching and thundering action.KarolCOPERNICUS' STAR is a bit more playful and varied but it's more similar than one might think in spots. What R&J lacks isn't more counterpoint but more thematic depth - it all seems filtered through a 'posh & pretty' blender and sounds a bit bland. Though i can see this being related to the movie which seems not to be very good anyway.On a different note, youtube has a song by the late John Barry (sung by David Arnold, no less) and i can't put my finger on which vaguely similar Barry movie theme this one riffs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKHWUQ-7quY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 He's got a pleasing voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 by Hans Zimmer and The Magnificent Six Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Jaws the Collector's Edition.Becoming more and more fond of "Father & Son"It has a sort of oddly somber, tender and foreboding mixture of moods in it. I like it a lot too. That type of pensive mood is quite unique to that track in the score. I have always felt it is a companion piece to the Jaws 2 track Brody Misunderstood.Seems to fit with what's to come. A tense calm before the storm. Love Montage as equally.Getting a copy of Jaws 2 would be neat at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Was Romeo & Juliet ever released on CD? I remember waiting but it got cancelled or something. Don't think I ever listened to ti.It got a Sony Classical release in Europe.KarolYup, digital only release in the US. From what I call MV of LLL tried to release a physical CD here but Sony wasn't interested.Maybe in 30 years we'll get a 2CD set of Horner's score and Korzeniowski's score packaged together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 FFVII Crisis CoreHancockThe Lost WorldLawrence of Arabia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Bear McCreary - Knights of BadassdomRockin' fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Was Romeo & Juliet ever released on CD? I remember waiting but it got cancelled or something. Don't think I ever listened to ti.It got a Sony Classical release in Europe.KarolYup, digital only release in the US. From what I call MV of LLL tried to release a physical CD here but Sony wasn't interested.Maybe in 30 years we'll get a 2CD set of Horner's score and Korzeniowski's score packaged together.Anyway, any of you can great a fairly cheap copy of European release. It's not going to cost you much more.The Lost World: Jurassic ParkThe Desolation of SmaugPoltergeist II - The Other SideDie Hard 2: Die HarderThe Amazing Spider-Man 2It's Karol's part II day!Karol Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 FFVII Crisis CoreHancockThe Lost WorldLawrence of ArabiaPowell's Hancock? That's got a solid theme and some fun moments. One of those scores that cries out for an actually decent movie to be made for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I enjoyed the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I've only ever seen bits and pieces and the last act. Doesn't seem awful, but meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 FFVII Crisis Core How awesome is Fulfilled Desire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Very awesome, but you know I like that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Currently listening to PROMETHEUS by Marc Streitenfeld. It's a hard enough listen outside of the movie but Harry Gregson-Williams' LIFE cue is fantastic. Crank it up to the highest decibel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 HGW's Life cue is the only good cue in the entire score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 HGW's Life cue is the only good cue in the entire score!"Friend from the Past" does a lovely homage to Jerry. So I hear you're a new Administrator now. Well I'm gonna need a top DP. You know administrators they love to ban people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 HGW's Life cue is the only good cue in the entire score!The entire score is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I'm gonna need a top DP.Sounds painful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Currently listening to PROMETHEUS by Marc Streitenfeld. It's a hard enough listen outside of the movie but Harry Gregson-Williams' LIFE cue is fantastic. Crank it up to the highest decibel.YOU LIVE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 HGW's Life cue is the only good cue in the entire score!The entire score is great.Hahaha, good one Koray! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I've finally started using my surround system in earnest after confirming that it doesn't interfere with any neighbors. First thing I put on was The Asteroid Field. That was also the second, third, and fourth thing I put on. Sir Hilary Bray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Hans Zimmer and the Magnificent SixShe-Devil by Howard ShoreThe Unknown Known by Danny ElfmanKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,684 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 HGW's Life cue is the only good cue in the entire score! The entire score is too much, but there's an awesome 50 minutes in there.Streitenfeld rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 HGW's Life cue is the only good cue in the entire score! The entire score is too much, but there's an awesome 50 minutes in there.Streitenfeld rocks!Rocks sure, but he can't compose a decent orchestral cue to save his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 HGW's Life cue is the only good cue in the entire score!The entire score is great.Hahaha, good one Koray!The boy has hidden comedic skillsCurrently listening to PROMETHEUS by Marc Streitenfeld. It's a hard enough listen outside of the movie but Harry Gregson-Williams' LIFE cue is fantastic. Crank it up to the highest decibel.YOU LIVE!!!!Of course I live. You can't get rid of me that easily. What did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleo 63 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 HGW's Life cue is the only good cue in the entire score!You are so hard on composers these days... It's certainly not the best score ever, but there are a couple of cues I like to listen to. The music for the collision, for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,515 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I bought "The Amazing Spider-Man 2", the other day - the extra special one, or so it's called. I keep looking at it sideways, thinking: "shall I give it a go, or is it just crap?" I'll let you know.Anyway, just listened to "1984" - the original score by Dominic Muldowney. Really good. Still like the Eurythmics' songs for it, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 HGW's Life cue is the only good cue in the entire score!You are so hard on composers these days... It's certainly not the best score ever, but there are a couple of cues I like to listen to. The music for the collision, for example...There are plenty of modern scores I listen to! Prometheus just isn't a good one.I love Pacific Rim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 We just need John Williams' new Star Wars score to usher in a new age of orchestral scores and put everything back on track like he did with the original in 1977. And for the record, I have no issue with electronics or synths. I have a problem with shitty composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm now listening to the new Lair release (which arrived this morning, along with The Unknown Known). While most, if not all, highlights were already present on the previous album, this programme is indeed more enjoyable and it's good to have it on CD.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I am listening to my batch of new arrivals:Lair by John DebneyFlesh + Blood by Basil PoledourisJulius Caesar by Miklós RózsaStar Trek: First Contact by Jerry GoldsmithI Love A Parade by John Williams and the Boston Pops Orchestra crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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