Jay 37,346 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Well, it's certainly not the way Mike M would handle the release these days, and without a ridiculously short timeframe to prepare it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 That's a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Mostly boring until the last 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Poor sound quality!You audiophiles might cringe but I am quite used to the soundquality. It could be better but it certainly not as atrocious as many make it out to be. And I don't like to listen to the anthology if I am going for the completish presentation of these scores. I remember being scared out of my wits when one of JWs original Star Wars album edits suddenly jumped to a fanfare when I was so used to the way it ends in the film version.If only some label had the rights to produce a 6 score box set of the OT and the Prequels with the best possible elements available.Basic Instinct (Complete score) by Jerry Goldsmith: I have been listening to this all week. Brilliant stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Whether you're used to the poor sound quality is irrelevant. It's still muffled, especially in the second disc.Although I still have the RCA, I've abandonded it as a listening option because I've since bought the Anthology and the OST, which are a more accurate representation of the film's score from 1983. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Whether you're used to the poor sound quality is irrelevant. It's still muffled, especially in the second disc.It is not irrelevant to me. It does not change the fact that soundquality could use improvements though but I can't be bothered to gobble up different releases and figure out what are the optimal versions to create some kind of ultimate listening experience.Chris Malone's extensive write-up on the recording of the SW scores is an interesting read. I recommend it if you haven't already read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The RCA is also inferior because it omits and replaces two tracks previously available on the OST and Anthology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I was never really bothered by that too much. They went with the 1997 versions of the films with the RCA versions of the soundtracks. Sure they are not perfect and do not have all the music (nor does the Anthology) but I am rather attached to them. They could have included the original Ewok Celebration though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 A LITTLE PRINCESS - Patrick Doyle Still one of Doyle's best, merging his broad romantic style with plucky indian orchestration. Theme-rich, unabashedly romantic, varied and musically confident It's a listening delight that i sadly have long since missed in listening to Doyle's music, the Branagh/Shakespeare stuff like AS YOU LIKE IT thankfully excepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I was never really bothered by that too much. They went with the 1997 versions of the films with the RCA versions of the soundtracks. Sure they are not perfect and do not have all the music (nor does the Anthology) but I am rather attached to them. They could have included the original Ewok Celebration though.By that logic, they should have pasted Jabba's theme in Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 If the RCA are to accurately represent the 1997 versions of the films, then Jabba's music must appear in Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I actually meant more the ROTJ set than the other two. And even then mostly by including the revised Ewok Celebration not following some crazy Ultimate edition "film edit with tracked music" logic. It seems I have to be very careful when talking about Star Wars scores here as my opinion on the RCA sets is obviously like declaration of war against all that is good and decent. But it is good to know people still care about JWs music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The RCA is also inferior because it omits and replaces two tracks previously available on the OST and Anthology. In contrast to dozens of tracks omitted by the Anthology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The RCA is also inferior because it omits and replaces two tracks previously available on the OST and Anthology.In contrast to dozens of tracks omitted by the Anthology?But the RCA replaces two existing tracks with new imposters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Which is why I also have the Anthology to complement the RCAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Which is why I also have the Anthology to complement the RCAs. Good man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I guess I could just listen to the RCA and take the disc out when Jedi Rocks is on and put the OST in for Lapti Nek, the same process for when Victoria Celibacy comes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 It's not just about missing tracks and sound quality. The sequencing of the Anthology makes for a perfect listening experience, including album arrangements (not all of which were retained). I enjoy the Trilogy most this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 You are wrong! Only the complete and chronological track order makes any musical sense. Do not go against the doctrine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 You are wrong! Only the complete and chronological track order makes any musical sense. Do not go against the doctrine!C&C forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I never expected Incanus to debate Williams' profound wisdom. His original album arrangements for Star Wars and Empire are brilliant. Now, it's true that Empire doesn't retain all of the album arrangements (and the Main Title from the original Empire album with This is Not a Cave should be placed somewhere in there) and the Anthology put everything into a more chronological order, but it still worked. Of course, I could be biased since the Anthology was the first time I owned the Star Wars scores, replacing my Talkboy recordings from the early 90s FOX Video VHS tapes. However, I did acquire the Special Editions just a few years later when they were released in that booklet packaging that seemed designed to damage the discs. I remember thinking that Jedi and Empire sounded like crap even then. I also remember leaving disc 1 of Star Wars playing and freaking out when some guy started talking 10 minutes after the alternate Binary Sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Today, I'm going back in the 80s.You know, the good old time when CDs featured only 35-40 minutes of music.- Jaws, Original CD (featuring concert arrangements based on the film's music)- E.T., Original CD (featuring concert arrangements based on the film's music)- The Fury, Original album (from the 2013 release, featuring concert arrangements based on the film's music)- Star Wars, Original Polydor 2-CD- Empire Strikes Back, Original Polydor CD- Return of The Jedi, Original Polydor CD Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Today, I'm going back in the 80s.You know, the good old time when CDs featured only 35-40 minutes of music.- Jaws, Original CD (featuring concert arrangements based on the film's music)- E.T., Original CD (featuring concert arrangements based on the film's music)- The Fury, Original album (from the 2013 release, featuring concert arrangements based on the film's music)- Star Wars, Original Polydor 2-CD- Empire Strikes Back, Original Polydor CD- Return of The Jedi, Original Polydor CDI've been doing this lately too! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Unbroken (Desplat)Started off with beautiful main theme but got boring by track 3Then bookends with 2 good tracks. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 There's a reason I have acquired all original album releases of Williams scores (in the case of Jaws and E.T., these were the first versions I acquired on CD in the early 90s at Universal Studios Florida gift shops). They are brilliant. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Only a few JW OST"s have not been rendered completely obsolete by expanded Editions...basically Jaws and E.T.there's no way a real JW fan could be happy with the RotJ and ToD original OST even back in 1984. I know I wasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Jedi is necessary because it's the best that score has ever sounded.Temple of Doom was all we had for a LONG time. I didn't even have the original album until around the year 2000 when Japanese imports were suddenly made available for $30 from the Star Wars Fan Club. That version is also sonically superior to the reissue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 yeah I bought ToD for 75$ around 1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 there's no way a real JW fan could be happy with the RotJ and ToD original OST even back in 1984. I know I wasn'tIn this case, the OSTs and the expanded versions complement one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The RotJ OST c.d. is the only c.d. I lost somehow. I have no idea where I put itIn the 80's I had all these on cassette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 People bash that OST because it's only 40 minutes but I was pleasantly surprised at how well it flows. It's an effective collection of highlights. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 my first thought afterwards was...Where's the duel music between Luke and Vaderit may have been the first score where I really started to notice unreleased music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's easy for me to return to these old discs because we now have all that unreleased music, so I'm now interested in exploring how they flowed and what kind of musical narrative the album producer was trying to achieve. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Raiders is another flawless album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Aside from the frustratingly trimmed Desert Chase. Maybe Williams doesn't like suspenseful snippets in his action tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I still don't find those edits as offensive as others here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 This is why they complement each other! The overall presentation of the Raiders album is good, but one frustrating track with baffling edits is rectified by an expanded version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The DCC Raiders was perfect. But I never had the OST and listened to the Desert Chase on the Concord exactly once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I listen to the Concord with the DCC Desert Chase added in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I'd love to get the DCC LP just for the sake of having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The Concord sound mix is weird, plus the pitch/speed issue. The DCC film mix is preferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I listened to Interstellar again tonight, first the complete film version, then the box set album. It's a masterpiece and no other score of 2014 comes close to it in quality. And that's saying something looking back at last year's scores. It's also the best work that Zimmer has ever done, obviously coming from a deep, elemental place. It's interesting to look at what the score is and compare it to what I thought it would be over the years as the film came into being. There's not really much resemblance to anything I expected at the earliest stages, after first hearing about the project in 2006 and then reading Jonah's early draft for Spielberg. The most synth-based cues like Our World and What Happens Now? are probably most like what I figured the whole score would be. But instead they're subtle moments among a very different but even more appealing aesthetic which fuses elements of the minimalism of Glass, Reich, and Adams, soaring Wagnerian/Mahlerian romanticism, and progressive rock stylings (electronics, neo-baroque minor-moded organ lines/harmonies) with Zimmer's own unmistakable musical perspective, into something really special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Godzilla is far superior to Interstellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's ok that you think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 My opinion is law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I find Interstellar just as off putting as the other Zimmer scores I've managed to listen to without falling asleepThis composer definitely doesn't do much for me and at this point it'll probably never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The Thin Red Line will always be his best for me, but Interstellar is definitely top material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I like one track in Man of Steel ..sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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