DreamTheater 131 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I owned Iris once, and sold it, because I found it boring. But that was then, maybe I should revisit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Batman by Danny Elfman. This score has got to have one of the very best final acts in film music histiry. Everything from Charge of the BatmobikeBatmobike up to end credits is iconic.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Iris Hmm. Not sure how I feel about this one...Feel happy, it's a nice score.How does it compare to Stanley & Iris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Iris Hmm. Not sure how I feel about this one...Feel happy, it's a nice score.How does it compare to Stanley & Iris?It's exactly the same thing, minus Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Armageddon - Trevor Rabin and whoever the hell else worked on thisCome on, this cue rocks. Classic 90s MV. Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 It's not a real orchestra, is it?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 It's a hybrid, just like any other MV/RCP effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I don't know. Sounds like a mock-up.I don't mind hybrids as such (The Peacemaker is a good example). But the ones that make it sounds cheap are I'm not a fan of.The music itself is ok.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Armageddon is one fantastic 90s MV style action-packed score ! The 2CD boot is one that absolutely rocks my world and without a doubt the finest hour of Harry Gregson-Williams and Trevor Rabin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 There's more? Ughh the OST is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 The OST doesn't even scratch the surface. I was shocked how much great cues were left off. The OST is practically only Rabin anyway and what Gregson-Williams contributed is just as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Agreed on all points with DreamTheater! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 UpKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crocodile 7,984 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 James Horner described Giacchino's score as "sweet" so it's ok. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 UpKarol DownBloodBoalKonami Code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 James Horner described Giacchino's score as "sweet" so it's ok. KarolSounds condescending.Did Horner also say Gia has "excellent technique"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Well, it was more in a context of Academy Award nominations that year. They start talking about it from 7:25 and Horner mentions Giacchino at about 8:55. P,S. My favourite quote ever from Horner can be heard at 24:50. Yeah, I know it's out of context. But it is just funny when he says that. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 The Last Airbender by James Newton Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted July 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2015 A. I. - ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE - John WilliamsAfter taking the old-testament-length LLL release in smaller doses, i will conclude that ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE may indeed be the last important addition to Williams' repertoire in terms of creating a (rather contradictory) work that is clearly of its time while still being distinctly Williams. He did several more 'modern' scores after that - the more focused MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA and the monochrome MINORITY REPORT for instance - but none have AI's canvas or scope. I even took the time to re-watch the movie and while i can't really retract my puzzlement about Spielberg's puzzlement - it feels like a broken Rolls Royce fixed up with Hyundai spare parts and then sprayed in atomic punk colors - but it merits respect for the bravery of shelling out 80 million $$ to put that on screen. The disparity of it (spanning everything from painfully didactic to wildly impressionistic) is felt in Williams' score which never coalesces into a coherent musical work, but works great as abstract collection of musical short stories riffing on an existentialist subject, for brevity let's call it the follies of human nature.The most drastic addition release-wise is the whole first act that is, as per both collaborators custom, drenched in music. An elegant portrait of aseptic first world problems & solutions and finally, rotten egocentrism, Williams provides tons of contrasting tones and ideas. On the old release, only a vaguely playful-if-harmonically-slippery cue called HIDE AND SEEK was found, here we are led through a series of cues that very delicately guide us from an initial feeling of hope and curiosity into betrayal and bleakness via the exquisite finale of part one, the almost Grimm fairy tale-like cantilena 'Abandoned in the Woods'. While the oblige concert version (a bit too long) is great, the 'extended version' on the LLL set is actually the most satisfying version, foreshadowed in the spooky 'David studies Monica' - it's a shame Williams didn't include this more on the initial release as it is probably the second-most operatic theme of the score.While the middle part, the Flesh Fair sequence, is musically thankfully mostly absent the score picks up again in its most modern parts, the whole 'mecha'nistic John Adams-influenced portrait of future society and motion, in 'The Mecha World' and 'To Rouge City' and these stand out in terms of being written by John Williams while sounding like nothing he did before (apart from some of the big cinemascope gestures in the horns).Spielberg, though, isn't at his best here, with a very soundstage-ian setting that feels not very cinematic. Only when the little robot boy meets his creator and goes on his subsequent bleak journey into the eternal wastelands of deep freeze and submerged cities the director finds his footing again with truly spectacular and chilling images that stay. Williams here comes up with a female humming chorus that seems to be a leftover from EMPIRE OF THE SUN's more cerebral moments - it's very moody and delicate but feels also like a run-for-cover, maybe because Spielberg didn't know how this part of the movie would play with more adventurous music. Your whole enjoyment of the ensuing final act depends on how much of the Pinocchio-angle you can take but musically, this part unexpectedly comes out as the true heart of AI and the conclusion to David's journey, as the countless versions of the particular melodic plainsong-like Blue Fairy theme - heavy Morricone allusions in that one - will attest (named as THEME FROM for a reason, probably).Though later on Spielberg and Williams seem to have decided on the more conventional 'Monica's Theme' with its mixture of a chorus recalling E. T. (listen to the cue 'Losing E. T. after 01:36) and a pop bridge (i'm admittedly not hot about) as more fitting identity of the score, it actually has the disadvantage of having to underscore the least successful scene in the picture - a finale that might make sense in literary form but comes off as unwieldy and emotionally cuckoo conclusion with brightly-lit coffee ad aesthetics and a cosy narration flattening every ambiguity the other 130 minutes seem to demand.But now with this wonderful set you can leave the movie aside - the score plays much better without it - and revel in what i perceive almost like collection of tone poems that invite to be studied and discovered repeatedly. A most wonderful release (not counting excessive alternates) and a reminder that Williams could be his worst enemy as album producer (cf the old WB release). Incanus, crocodile, Bespin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Nice write-up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 John Williams - Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 John Williams is not Lincoln's best score, but it's still an enjoyable listen. I particularly like Angela Morley's Theme and The Recording Booth Scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Stepmom This score has really grown on me over the years. There's an unbridled warmth that makes it a very comfortable and enjoyable experience. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 John Williams is not Lincoln's best score, but it's still an enjoyable listen. I particularly like Angela Morley's Theme and The Recording Booth Scene.Well, that's where he is NOW, in his artistical's career now, at the age he is now. So Lincoln has to be considered, like Tintin and Book Thieft as major works.We can't compare a new work, by such an great Master, with the best works he did when he began his maturity period.All new John Williams's works are now part of his "musical testament", and have to be judge with all our respect, on behalf of what JW can delivers now, at the point he's now in his career.Lincoln, is a truly great score, a five-star one and I love it very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 John Williams is not Lincoln's best score, but it's still an enjoyable listen. I particularly like Angela Morley's Theme and The Recording Booth Scene.Yep, great tracks. And I'm keen on 'My pop band son named Joseph', 'Steven's Theme' and 'Writing Marches for Heroes'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DreamTheater 131 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 There's a minor goof during the solo's on 'Morrison and the trumpet'. I guess they didn't ask him to play that part.But the score ends with a stunner: 'Close Encounters of the Artificial Intelligence'.Hugely operatic and played perfectly by all 150 players of the orchestra. But it becomes a bit too wall of sound during the last 2 minutes. A shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Kids, don't do drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Outside of the LOTR scores, I have never listened to another full Howard Shore score. Just listened to Hugo. Lively, fun and lovely score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I like Naked Lunch, The Cell, The Fly, and Maps to the Stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 < Panic Room, Edge Of Darkness, and Eastern Promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 All excellent scores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Fellowship, Two Towers, and Return of the King - Howard ShoreWar Horse - John Williams Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Listening to the non-choral action finale of The Phantom Menace . I think I actually prefer this to the more heralded "Duel of the Fates". "The Tide Turns" is one of Williams' best cues. I hope that TFA takes on some of the gusto of the aforementioned sequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Listening to the non-choral action finale of The Phantom Menace .Less-choral you mean. The Great Duel was choral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Listening to the non-choral action finale of The Phantom Menace .Less-choral you mean. The Great Duel was choralNot that part actually, as it is unreleased. I was listening to it on *gasp* The Ultimate Edition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 John Williams is not Lincoln's best score, but it's still an enjoyable listen.How many of Lincoln's scores survived to the present? Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 His score to Steven Spielberg felt a bit manipulative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I don't mind hybrids as such (The Peacemaker is a good example). But the ones that make it sounds cheap are I'm not a fan of. Agreed, although the intentionally cheap-sounding stuff at the beginning of Cool Runnings is excellent. The pseudo-reggae synth brass is great in a hilarious way. By the way, this track should be titled "Send Us to the Olympics." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 This must rank as one of Jerry's most creative and fun scores. I wouldn't change a thing about it.Because I'm waiting for the new Gremlins 2 expansion, I decided to spin it again.To remind me how great fun film music used to be. What a wonderfully zany selection of music.A superb sounding release... now more than ever looking forward to hearing the new and improved sequel score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 The Empire Strikes Back on vinylWhy the hell are only 40 minutes of this on CD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Wyatt Earp by James Newton HowardTreasure Planet by James Newton HowardLair by John DebneyHella W. by Panu Aaltio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial, the original MCA albumThe greatest score for the greatest film of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial, the original MCA albumThe greatest score for the greatest film of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 How could I forget the majesty of A.I.*hurl* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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