Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Sherlock Holmes - Hans Zimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Captain BloodIs there a decent re-recording around of the complete thing? All I have is the Marco Polo/Naxos album with suites from other Golden Age swashbucklers. The Korngold one has had several releases and recordings, do we need another before the Kamen?Actually, some of those Korngold swashbucklers are overdue for a decent Label release.Indeed. One of the labels should do a re-recording series of all of Korngold's scores. After all he didn't compose so many during his time in Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The Maltese Falcon by Adolph DeutschKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The Maltese Falcon by Adolph DeutschKarolOooh I have only heard that score in the movie itself? Is it impressive on album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 It's not really the most striking apart from film, very typical suspense material of its era. But offers a nice background. I wasn't listening to the full score as such, just a Naxos compilation of Deutsch music (containing extensive suites from 5-6 scores of his).Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Ah one of those old Marco Polo label albums that Naxos has now been re-releasing. I have to check that out some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 You can find it on Spotify, I think.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Captain BloodIs there a decent re-recording around of the complete thing? All I have is the Marco Polo/Naxos album with suites from other Golden Age swashbucklers.That's by far the most complete one I know (and a fantastic recording - plus the album includes Young's gorgeous Scaramouche).Other than that, there are a few recordings of the main titles, and Gerhardt's sublime Ship in the Night. Nothing else that I'm aware of, aside from the OST recording on Tsunami.Indeed. One of the labels should do a re-recording series of all of Korngold's scores. After all he didn't compose so many during his time in Hollywood.There've been a few partial ones, of course. Kojian's recordings of Robin Hood and Sea Hawk (both great, but limited by the running time of an LP), Morgan/Stromberg's complete versions of the same two plus Deception, Prince and the Pauper, Another Dawn and Escape Me Never,Mauceri's Between Two Worlds, Gamba's Sea Wolf (with Robin Hood suite) and Sea Hawk, Gerhardt's Kings Row, Davis' Elizabeth and Essex, Scott's Anthony Adverse and probably several I'm not aware of... there's really been a lot, and a large number of his scores have been covered (Sea Hawk seems to be a particular favourite - I've heard the overture live by several orchestras), but sadly few have turned their attention to Captain Blood.It's also curious that for the three big swashbucklers (Blood, Hawk and Hood), the only somewhat regular release of the original recordings are the Tsunami discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 On Her Majesty's Secret Service- John Barry. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Star Trek: Nemesis - Jerry GoldsmithQuite brilliant, and it should be on anyone's top 10 Jerry list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Finally it's getting its due!It used to only be me, Trent and Dan Hobgood who saw the brilliance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I've liked it since 2002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 And me. I loved it when I first heard it in 2002.I've liked it since 2002!Oh bugger off! Your ninjaing is pissing me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 It's the first time it feels like he's really having "fun" writing music again after quite a few years of his more sterile style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 It's some of the best action music in SPAAAAAAAAAAACE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Basic Instinct by Jerry GoldsmithMunich by John WilliamsAmistad by John WilliamsNixon by John WilliamsFlesh + Blood by Basil Poledouris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Some excruciatingly uninteresting sleep-inducing work by David Arnold, called Independence Day. I've heard better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 You must be joking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 No I'm deadly serious... Can't you see that I'm not using any smilie that says otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Let me make it clear for you: ID4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 John Williams - Jaws 2Bloody hell! Why haven't I been listening to this score more in my life?I'm not a HUGE fan of the original Jaws - I like it a lot, its a great score. But it's never been an all-time favorite of mine, never had a strong attachment to it or played it repeatedly over and over like I used to do with Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and other Williams scores that I would put in my top 10. But shit, this score is awesome!The original Jaws has a definite... "old" sound and feel to it. That's part of what has always left it a "lesser" score for me; I just prefer Williams sound from Star Wars forward, frankly. But Jaws 2, wow, its like he took the core elements from the original score, and then used them in a score that is completely in line with all the other huge hits of his 1977 -> 1984 unrivaled blockbuster era. This score is more in line with a Star Wars or Indiana Jones score than the original Jaws score. It's awesome! Some awesome action music here.I want a specialty label to tackle this score more than ever now! Come on, Intrada! Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 PAPILLON - Jerry GoldsmithA huge prestige movie back in its day - the worldwide grosses amounted to almost 90 Mio $ after some years in wide release, a king's ransom then - more or less relegated to late-night showings on cable channels now, PAPILLON tells the harrowing story of an indomitable man sentenced to lifelong work prison on French-Guyana, which actually means slowly dying away under the grisly conditions, and how he tries to escape his predicament.Acted with brilliant understatement by Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman, the movie rolls out its main themes - slavery, freedom, adjustment, rebellion - as a caustic but heartwrenching tale of survival. It's also the fourth collaboration of JG with Franklin Schaffner and as such, it sure has earned its place on - at the very least - AFI's 250 nominee list of greatest film scores of all time. Mostly absent for the first hour of the drama, the music gets more pronounced with McQueen's ever-more-stubborn escape attempts.The famous sorrowful musette waltz for 'Papillon' (the McQueen character is nicknamed such) forms the backbone of the sparse score (40 minutes) and played together with that that unforgettable image of McQueen lying on a raft in the wide ocean, it's hard to shake off. But there are other ingredients as a grim chaconne that plays over images of the horrible french island colony (last 02:30 of the suite) and a halting motif for the harrowing conditions that often plays counterpoint to the waltz. There are big lyrical moments throughout that balance the oppressive atmosphere (two fierce 70's action cues portray futile, deadly escapes).Also listen for a 90 second cue called 'Butterfly Hunt' that is Goldsmith's unique brand of impressionism that leads into a lyrical rendition of the main theme and is a timeless reminder why the man still is held in such esteem by his peers. PAPILLON seems to have been made for Goldsmith: a male-domineered existentialist action-adventure movie with an underlying spirit of hope and most of the inner turmoil left unsaid - only to be filled by the music. It's a true achievement and should be mandatory for the FIRST KNIGHT/AIR FORCE ONE crowd. This is the composer in top form and it's one of his greatest - even Ennio Morricone singled it out once, and that should say something. Hlao-roo and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Papillon is one of JGs true masterpieces. Absolutely engrossing from start to finish. Collaborating with Shaffner always brought out the best in his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Collaborating with Shaffner always brought out the best in his music.More than Dante? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 In a different way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Collaborating with Shaffner always brought out the best in his music. More than Dante? More consistently, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Battle Beyond The StarsFun score for a low budget sci-fi knock off of The Magnificent Seven. Made to cash in on the success of Star Wars.Interestingly the score is far more "inspired" by Star Trek: The Motion Picture then Star Wars. Though the love theme in this score does quote a bridge section of Leia's The verbatim.I'm frankly surprised that Paramount didn't send its legal team to adress the hilariously blatant ripoff of The Klingon Battle. What's especially fun is that Horner does a very obvious statement of it, then repeats that about a minute later with a statement thats even more obvious.....Considering Horner was hired for TWOK because they wanted a different sound for that film always makes me chuckle.The score is more the just a plagiarism special though.It's rousing, adventurous, very well written and serves as the genesis to both TWOK and Krull. Horners music has an infectious spirit and complexity that is beyond the meager orchestra hired to attempt and do it justice.While the score is good enough to deserve a rerecording by a better orchestra. Actually hearing this one choking on tracks like Cowboy And The Jackers is hilarious and adds to the low rent feel that does permeate this score.Its well written hack work, with shows promise and is fun to listen too, but also shows Horner's downsides as a composer. Something he never really escaped completely.Perhaps this is why he did not want a legit CD release of it, citing "poor recording quality", which seems like the most polite way to say, its a score that pillaged several better scores, and was played by a shit orchestra....Still....heaps of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Road to PerditionKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Road to PerditionKarolGreat score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 It is indeed, might be one of his very best actually.After that, I listened to Standard Operating Procedure by Danny Elfman. Very underappreciated score that started his flirtation with Philip Glass-like writing (it bled into a lot of his work after that). It's also quite a curious music for its subject matter - it feels almost sardonic in its playfullness (I'm pretty sure that was the idea). It is clearly on my top 10 Elfman list. Now listening to Return to Oz by David ShireKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. What a classic. I know what love is, because I can feel it for this. A nice reminder that I have a heart and a soul. What more could you ask from a score? I miss Danny Elfman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 He's not dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 He is to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Age of Ultron was good.Well, his half anyway. Still the best theme of 2015 for me. It might not be the most masterful composition or anything. But, still, I literally can't get it out of my head. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 It's awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Eh, that sounds like Elfman emulating modern composers like Zimmer or something. That isn't the Elf Man I know and love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 He's a sellout to modern trends that's for sure. It's like when that hack Stravinsky ditched his relatable and fun ballet style in favor of uninteresting and imitative serial shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Modern trends that you think are the apex of music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 It sounds vintage Elfman to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 You must be deaf or senile in your old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 You have a tin ear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 He was stepping into a situation where Brian Tyler has already recorded a lot of material. Of course, it would fit into the established "string ostinato/anvil clashing/minor mode/neo-MV" vibe. It has to. But, to me, it's very much Danny Elfman. And probably sounding even more heroic and swashbuckling than ever. I can remember him ever unleashing so much heroic brass. Like, ever.Hey, I thought TGP liked the score?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Its not Zimmer or Wintory, so its shit to him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Finally, I am understood.But yes I did like it. Even some of Tyler's stuff is good though overwritten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I haven't heard any of the score on its own outside my theater viewing, but based on that one track Elfman did a good job manipulating Silvestri's theme, making the sound consistent with the MCU, and keeping his own sound intact. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 It's really butchered in the film. For instance, only 45 of Elfman's opening track were used. Here's what it originally sounded like. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Schindler's List Despite being one of my favorite John Williams scores, I only listen to this one every couple months or so. It's far too heavy for regular listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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