Quintus 5,399 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Yeah, there's probably an irony in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Thats actually insulting! Spielberg descending into mushy sentimentality ala Hook for the first time and "tunemeister" Johnny Williams obliging him by sticking a syrupy arrangement of a Disney song in his otherwise masterful effort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I have always found it interesting that as wonderful as the entire score is, the 5-note motif gets all the glory when in fact it appears only as part of the finale. E.T. follows much the same dramatic build-up musically and audiences usually only vaguely remember bicycles flying over moon (or rather the sun) from the finale and clearly recall the huge emotional and brilliant music from that section, not so much the gentle and suspenseful score of the first 2 acts, the big thematic finale sequence overshadowing the rest of the superb score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Thats actually insulting! Spielberg descending into mushy sentimentality ala Hook for the first time and "tunemeister" Johnny Williams obliging him by sticking a syrupy arrangement of a Disney song in his otherwise masterful effort!I think it might have been in an old Total Film magazine (its debut issue) where Williams was interviewed and stated that that precise musical moment in Close Encounters was one of his personal favourites and one he was most proud of, whilst just before reiterating that he rarely returns to his older works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Seventh Son - Marco BeltramiThe first Beltrami in my collection, and it makes for a much better listening experience outside the film. Beltrami takes inspiration from Horner and Williams, as well as Ilan Eshkeri's Stardust (the villainous motif has a similar percussion line) -- but he turns it around and makes it his own. The last two cues ("End Credits" and "The Spook's Apprentice") are simply wonderful... it's not often we get end credit suites. Very punchy and vibrant recording by John Kurlander, so that's another plus.The only quibble I have is that it's a problem with many other Varese releases... it is too long. There's hardly any bitty tracks, but cut out 20-30 minutes and you'd have a fantastic listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I've just searched the interview (http://www.jw-collection.de/misc/interview/total.htm) and I'm mistaken in saying it was there that he said that exact thing about Close Encounters. So now I need to find the quote because it'll do my head in if I don't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 John Williams has often stated when asked to name one favourite among his own works that that Close Encounters is special in his mind, not only for that particular moment as a whole piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Any recommendations to broaden my familiarity with John Powell beyond the dragons and a handful of superhero things I already know? His output isn't that large to begin with I figure, but is there anything that seems particularly up my alley?Hmmm....i honestly never connected your precious musical tastes with someone as surface-bubbly as Powell. Apart from the ADHS kiddie stuff i think one should enjoy FACE/OFF, PAYCHECK (great little score) and the three BOURNE's (which you probably know).Given your love of more static textures i guess UNITED 93, too.Surprising or not, I am very fond of what I know of his, which as I said is pretty much limited to the dragon films, the third X-Men, and Hancock. The Bourne stuff, for all its apparent influence, remains mostly unheard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 You may like parts of Evolution.And of course nothing beats that moment at 02:58: Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 How about this? Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I am really quite fond of ROAD TO EL DORADO. You of course need to dig up one of tose recording sessions to get a good selection of cues but it's a good mixture on par with KUNG FU PANDA. CHRISTOPHER YOUNG - Hellraiser One of my best-loved gothic scores full of bombastic grand guignol declamations, macabre waltzes, and also quite advanced musique concréte that makes this score a pieces of the late 20th century - a distinction that elevates it above simple pastiche (or make that two, the second part is even better). I think Young often is unfairly relegated to the backseat behind Danny Elfman, who is maybe more recognizable due to his more idiosyncratic bag of tricks but also a less trained/skilled composer. Young is here able to unleash quite a musical fire that will remain his magnum opus that should appeal to fans and academics alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Olivier Derivière - Remember MeFun, unique music, gotta listen to this moreMarc Timón Barceló - Coliseum: Games of RomeAwesome stuff, that Exotic Dances from Egypt track is a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 last night Raiders of the Lost Ark and tonight on the way home, John Barry's Thunderball.Not Barry's best Bond score but not his worst. Not by a long chalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,999 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Sodom and Gomorrah (Tadlow)Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 1Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 2Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 3Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 4Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 5Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 6Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 6 - The Final EpisodesYou know, I dunno if I can listen to the final disc of this 10 disc saga at work any more. It's so emotional! All those character themes, all returning for their final triumphant variation. Such an amazing disc of film music.Moving On - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Yeah, that final disc packs quite an emotional punch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I am really quite fond of ROAD TO EL DORADO. You of course need to dig up one of tose recording sessions to get a good selection of cues but it's a good mixture on par with KUNG FU PANDA.CHRISTOPHER YOUNG - HellraiserOne of my best-loved gothic scores full of bombastic grand guignol declamations, macabre waltzes, and also quite advanced musique concréte that makes this score a pieces of the late 20th century - a distinction that elevates it above simple pastiche (or make that two, the second part is even better). I think Young often is unfairly relegated to the backseat behind Danny Elfman, who is maybe more recognizable due to his more idiosyncratic bag of tricks but also a less trained/skilled composer. Young is here able to unleash quite a musical fire that will remain his magnum opus that should appeal to fans and academics alike.I've never heard that one. Young has always been difficult for me to get into though The Core and Creation helped change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalJ 4 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Just re-listened to Michael Giacchino's score for "John Carter." I had to watch the movie again after listening to it, and the movie was also better than I remembered. Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 1Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 2Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 3Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 4Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 5Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 6Michael Giacchino - LOST Season 6 - The Final EpisodesYou know, I dunno if I can listen to the final disc of this 10 disc saga at work any more. It's so emotional! All those character themes, all returning for their final triumphant variation. Such an amazing disc of film music.Moving On - It seems like some of the best music is in last season, when I finally finish watching the show, I have to listen to the score for the last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Oh yea, the final season easily has the best music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The Nightmare Before Christmas I've given this a few more listens to let my opinion ferment. All in all, it's a really fun listening experience. The sections of orchestral underscore aren't nearly as uniquely appealing as the songs. Though this could be seen as a positive, as it helps give the songs more prominence and allows for some breathing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Did you listen to the OST or the complete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I am really quite fond of ROAD TO EL DORADO. You of course need to dig up one of tose recording sessions to get a good selection of cues but it's a good mixture on par with KUNG FU PANDA.CHRISTOPHER YOUNG - HellraiserOne of my best-loved gothic scores full of bombastic grand guignol declamations, macabre waltzes, and also quite advanced musique concréte that makes this score a pieces of the late 20th century - a distinction that elevates it above simple pastiche (or make that two, the second part is even better). I think Young often is unfairly relegated to the backseat behind Danny Elfman, who is maybe more recognizable due to his more idiosyncratic bag of tricks but also a less trained/skilled composer. Young is here able to unleash quite a musical fire that will remain his magnum opus that should appeal to fans and academics alike.Young deserves more big films coming his way. He's mostly relegated to horror films. While he's fantastic at them (especially Hellraiser), it's typecasting. When he gets a prime studio film like The Core or Spider-Man 3 he usually delivers big time on those.It should be interesting to hear his score for Doctor Strange next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I am really quite fond of ROAD TO EL DORADO. You of course need to dig up one of tose recording sessions to get a good selection of cues but it's a good mixture on par with KUNG FU PANDA.CHRISTOPHER YOUNG - HellraiserOne of my best-loved gothic scores full of bombastic grand guignol declamations, macabre waltzes, and also quite advanced musique concréte that makes this score a pieces of the late 20th century - a distinction that elevates it above simple pastiche (or make that two, the second part is even better). I think Young often is unfairly relegated to the backseat behind Danny Elfman, who is maybe more recognizable due to his more idiosyncratic bag of tricks but also a less trained/skilled composer. Young is here able to unleash quite a musical fire that will remain his magnum opus that should appeal to fans and academics alike.Young deserves more big films coming his way. He's mostly relegated to horror films. While he's fantastic at them (especially Hellraiser), it's typecasting. When he gets a prime studio film like The Core or Spider-Man 3 he usually delivers big time on those.It should be interesting to hear his score for Doctor Strange next year.…that hasn't been confirmed anywhere yet…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 CHRISTOPHER YOUNG - HellraiserOne of my best-loved gothic scores full of bombastic grand guignol declamations, macabre waltzes, and also quite advanced musique concréte that makes this score a pieces of the late 20th century - a distinction that elevates it above simple pastiche (or make that two, the second part is even better). I think Young often is unfairly relegated to the backseat behind Danny Elfman, who is maybe more recognizable due to his more idiosyncratic bag of tricks but also a less trained/skilled composer. Young is here able to unleash quite a musical fire that will remain his magnum opus that should appeal to fans and academics alike.I'm very fond of this one. There is real personality and elegance in this one. The second one I do find a bit over the top. Still very enjoyable, but not as inebriating as this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 It has really been a blueprint for a lot of horror scores following. And again, with Young musically less incriminating folks tend to overlook the wild stuff he does beyond tonal. And with a vengeance, cf. NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 2, THE VAGRANT and so on. Michael Giacchino - Inside OutNow it's on german Spotify i gave it another listen. My final verdict remains: there is a strong voice leavened with a delightful sense of fun whenever Giacchino is allowed these tuneful, cheery little vignettes that spotlight several single instruments starting with the main theme (also the linked above is a wonderful tarantella-like piece). it's where the composer most comfortably seems to belong, musically.In that sense it's almost like a Peanuts-score. Though for a satisfying dramatic arc (it's almost an hour long) the whole thing slacks when the score is called to deliver more poignant moments as the story unfolds. All the fun you have with wacky stuff like 'Chasing the Pink Elephant' or the aptly named 'Abstract Thought', it never coalesces into a bigger picture and remains sketchy. But when there is a resolution as as remote as the pen-ultimate 'Joy turns to Sadness', it feels like the harmless rambunctiousness has no deeper reason to exist but for it's own sake. Given what the movie is about that seems a bit slim. See it that way: a composer like James Horner probably would have slacked more in the goofy music department - he often would resort to barely hidden Elfman-isms in his own children scores for that - but you could bet that the whole thing would have an emotional core that is a bit lacking here. Still, if you just love to add some catchy pieces to your collection, about 20 minutes of this are a welcome addition for 2015. Incanus and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Any recommendations to broaden my familiarity with John Powell beyond the dragons and a handful of superhero things I already know? His output isn't that large to begin with I figure, but is there anything that seems particularly up my alley?Hmmm....i honestly never connected your precious musical tastes with someone as surface-bubbly as Powell. Apart from the ADHS kiddie stuff i think one should enjoy FACE/OFF, PAYCHECK (great little score) and the three BOURNE's (which you probably know).Given your love of more static textures i guess UNITED 93, too.Surprising or not, I am very fond of what I know of his, which as I said is pretty much limited to the dragon films, the third X-Men, and Hancock. The Bourne stuff, for all its apparent influence, remains mostly unheard.Start with...The Bourne UltimatumChicken RunHorton Hears A Who!Knight & DayKung Fu PandaPaycheck I am really quite fond of ROAD TO EL DORADO. You of course need to dig up one of tose recording sessions to get a good selection of cues but it's a good mixture on par with KUNG FU PANDA.CHRISTOPHER YOUNG - HellraiserOne of my best-loved gothic scores full of bombastic grand guignol declamations, macabre waltzes, and also quite advanced musique concréte that makes this score a pieces of the late 20th century - a distinction that elevates it above simple pastiche (or make that two, the second part is even better). I think Young often is unfairly relegated to the backseat behind Danny Elfman, who is maybe more recognizable due to his more idiosyncratic bag of tricks but also a less trained/skilled composer. Young is here able to unleash quite a musical fire that will remain his magnum opus that should appeal to fans and academics alike.I've never heard that one. Young has always been difficult for me to get into though The Core and Creation helped change that.How many times do I have to tell you to listen to The Shipping News and Haunted Summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Monsignor (Intrada 2007)Tracks 1,2 and 4 are about the only ones I really like. The track 'Gloria' nearly kills my enjoyment of those tracks. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (MCA 1996)Ah, this is much better... This expansion is just as good as the 40 minute album. A bit more filler, but it's superb filler ! The Nightmare Before Christmas I've given this a few more listens to let my opinion ferment. All in all, it's a really fun listening experience. The sections of orchestral underscore aren't nearly as uniquely appealing as the songs. Though this could be seen as a positive, as it helps give the songs more prominence and allows for some breathing room. I ignored the music for about 20 years, I had heard it once or twice when it came out then I dismissed it for a reason only god knows why.I bought the CD cheap about a year ago. It's one of the few Elfmans I really love. The songs, Sally's theme, and Elfman's vocal performance being its main attractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Kidnap The Sandy Claws for the win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 This is quite a fun live rendition.Oh wait, BB won't like it, it has people screaming. View it on 720p, 1080p has some annoying interlacing going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 One of my personal all-time favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Some neat footage of rehearsals for the October 2010 The Two Towers presentation at Radio City. Featuring a good chunk of my favorite cue from the trilogy. Wicki has a really bizarre, hectic way of conducting. Obviously it works, but it's strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Seems rather mechanical. Dynamics and tempi are often off.Nice to hear the bells come out in the Gandalf the White passage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'd love to hear TTT and RotK live one day. Alas all we got was FotR when Tampere Filharmonia bravely took up the challenge but there hasn't been any word of them or any other orchestra doing the sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Willow.No mystery there.Lovin' that shakuhachi and the extended techniques that Horner demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Willow is the product of a genius, or maybe a couple of geniuses channeled through Horner. I'd pick up a complete release in an instant.Some of the most fun I can have with a film music album. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Did you listen to the OST or the complete?OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Track down the complete version - it was released in the Elfman/Burton boxset. It's really something special! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Indeed. A revelation of an already perfect score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The RockThe Lion KingCrimson TideWe need a Hans emoticon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 We already have one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 We already have one: My mistake, I just assumed that was the Andy Price one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Nope, that's the one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Nah man, you got BURNED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,999 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Is this John Powell then? Or Danny Elfman?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Born On The 4th July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Marco Beltrami - Seventh Son (Varese OST)Great CD! Definitely one of the best scores of 2015! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Nah man, you got BURNED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 TOTAL RECALL (DELUXE EDITION)Sometimes I simply need to listen to the great stuff !To remind me how film scores used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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