Faleel 5,346 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Didn't even notice a difference there, I was so annoyed with the CD by that point1:12:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yv4vOxunH4?t=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Okay, I'm almost to the finale of Batman. Nothing to complain about so far! Okay, there's a bit of Beetlejuice in Photos/Beautiful Dreamer, for me the first noticeable instance of Elfman starting to repeat himself. With Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, Elfman really blows his load immediately. What a fantastic score. Worth the $400 price of admission alone. Okay, not really. Elfman maintains his erection into the early 90s. Beetlejuice is wonderful. It runs a bit too long on the Elfman box set, which overall is weirdly assembled. Still, we're in the prime of the Elf Man at this point. Up next: Edward Scissorhands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 The whole boxset is "weirdly assembled"... some discs maintain the exact old original OST, then but bonus tracks at the end. Some mostly maintain the original OST, but make some alterations throughout. Some completely rebuild the score from the ground up.It would have been epic if they had hired Matessino to give each film a proper C&C release. Well, I guess the specialty labels can still do that one by one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Batman the score is the musical embodiment of these iconic characters. It's just fantastic. Edward Scissorhands is a delight, especially in its climax, but the album runs too long. Batman Returns is completely superior on the La-La Land set. I don't even remember a lot of the weird edits and alternates on the album, it's been so long since I listened to it. This score works best in complete and chronological order, but especially with all the missing Batman theme moments, a ton of which seem to be absent on the album. Almost through with Nightmare Before Christmas. This one isn't really my thing. I can't say it's a misfire, though. I mean, it's such a beloved score. Musically, it is very similar to Scissorhands and Returns. The Penguin's Theme is even in there as well as part of the Beetlejuice theme. It's entertaining, however. So he's still got my attention. Up next: Mars Attacks! I don't know how this one with fare. I've never listened to the score outside of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Mars Attacks! is one of my favourite Elfman scores ever, and I'm tough on him. I'd argue it was his last great score before taking his first plunge into mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I agree with Drax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I think you're both loons when it comes to this. Mars Attacks! was a really hard listen. Sleepy Hollow has been a complete reversal. Big, operatic, wildly entertaining. I like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 To each their own. I could never get into Sleepy Hollow at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I think this is where I get off the Elfman/Burton train. Maybe some day I'll give the rest a shot, but not today. And not tomorrow. And not next week.I bought this crappy box (at a slight discount) strictly for Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. I figured I might as well venture a bit further into the set than Disc 1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 To each their own. I could never get into Sleepy Hollow at allSame. I don't even know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Sleepy Hollow is great. So are Corpse Bride and Big Fish. I like parts of Charlie And The Chocolate Factory and Planet Of The Apes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 My favorite part of Sleepy Hollow was the film version of the Main Title at the end. It was overall very fun. I've never listened to it outside the movie.Mars Attacks! was vanilla, like the film itself, but with its quirky Martian theme and occasional fun moments. I wanted desperately for it to be over. There was one standout track sequenced after the end credits, Final Address, which underscores Nicholson's ridiculous speech to the Martian Ambassador. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I went through a time between 1999 to 2003 where I really looked forward to the next Elfman score. To me, that era was his last surge of semi-greatness.I enjoyed Sleepy Hollow, Planet of the Apes, Spider-Man, Red Dragon, Men In Black II, and even Hulk. But then Big Fish happened, which I couldn't get into. Spider-Man 2 was okay, and then he bored me again with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.Never again did he compose a score that I would describe as a classic or addictive the way he did between 1985 to 1996. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Currently making my way through Wintory's AC Syndicate. Tina Guo's cello performances are impeccable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Never again did he compose a score that I would describe as a classic or addictive the way he did between 1985 to 1996.Family Man came pretty close for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 SpectreKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Never again did he compose a score that I would describe as a classic or addictive the way he did between 1985 to 1996. Family Man came pretty close for me.It's okay but forgettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 You all know that PBS will air a Danny Elfman concert from Lincoln Center next Friday, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Hitchcock is the modern Elfman score that did the most for meWanted is a hugely underrated gem from the late 2000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 The only Elfmen from the last 10, 12 years i need are CORPSE BRIDE (delightful, melodically inspired), HULK (his best comic book score) and WOLFMAN. Parts of OZ and ALICE IN WONDERLAND are very good, too, and maybe SOP but on the whole it doesn't seem to have much zip anymore. Nothing to get hooked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Currently making my way through Wintory's AC Syndicate. Tina Guo's cello performances are impeccable.Heavy use of Saint-Saëns' 'Danse Macabre' and more formal british string quartets like Delius. Surely a surprising approach for this genre. Needs to be studied more, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Jane Eyre by John Williams: A beautiful autumnal score in a very British musical idiom complemented by some of Williams' most loveliest lyrical melodies. The original soundtrack album does not have a wasted note and the little over 33 minute CD (LLL re-issue) offers a whole immersive world with clearly defined thematic ideas (with the central love theme) and a surprising amount of variety including the breathless scherzo To Thornfield, the source music styled Meeting for recorder, viola and guitar, the dissonant and eerie Thwarted Wedding with its echoplexed strings and a gorgeous religioso theme in The Restoration. All comes to a tender melancholy conclusion and fulfilment in Reunion (End Title) where Williams gives the most extended and loveliest reading of the superb love theme. This is truly one of the essential early Williams scores before his world famed Jaws, Star Wars, Superman and Indiana Jones. Most highly recommended. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Here you can watch it, btw. Pretty rare movie.https://archive.org/details/JaneEyre70 Incanus and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Cheers pub! Will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Why is a film from the 70s in the public domain already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 The same happened to Godzilla vs Megalon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Public domain is a Communist concept. How can something not be owned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 The movie is owned... Owned by the Collective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I was so impressed (or mostly surprised) by Sleepy Hollow that I decided to listen to it again, just to be sure. I still enjoyed it. Then I started the Music Box over again from the beginning. Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, Batman and Batman Returns will always have a special place in my heart. I can't really find any fault in Elfman's output in that era. We were lucky to have him. RIP, both Danny Elfman and Tim Burton.Currently listening to the La-La Land Batman Returns as I drink two cups of good hot black coffee. Today's present to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 That thing that happens to artists when they get older happened to Burton and Elfman. They lost their talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Not their talent, but their inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 They have plenty of inspiration - money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Bloody lefties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 He is a friggin lefty that Elfman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I don't think Elfman lost any of his talent. But he does tend to "spread himself too thin over too many pieces of bread".But hey, at least he's trying different stuff. You know, learning. That's got to count for something.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 You all know that PBS will air a Danny Elfman concert from Lincoln Center next Friday, don't you?I saw a clip from a promo with Paul Reubens and the performance sounded pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 The Grudge 2 - Christopher YoungUnlike the movie it accompanies, the score improves on the original. Young expands and gives more variation to the main theme several times, giving more harmonic resonance to accompany the scares. Still no Hellraiser or Hellbound: Hellraiser 2, but still a strong Young horror score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Scarface - Giorgio MoroderI wish there was a link on YT of "Reunion" - it's so damn good! Cheesy as fuck but still full of emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 The Book Thief.I can honestly say that, of all the 'autumnly' scores Williams ever wrote, this is the weakest one. Williams has done similar scores before, but they were better.Alexandre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 It is definitely one Williams' weakest scores. Competently written, as usual, but with nothing very interesting to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Honestly, just about everything is better than The Book Thief as far as Williams goes.Currently listening to the new Back to the Future Part III on Spotify. It's kinda tough to sit through this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Henry Jackman - X-Men: First ClassI like the main theme but the rest of the album is completely forgettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Back to the Future I, II, III - Alan SilvestriThe first is the best, but the others are nothing to sneeze at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Contact - Alan SilvestriSphere - Elliot GoldenthalThe Prestige - David JulyanSPECTRE - Thomas NewmanStar Trek: Generations - Dennis McCarthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The Book Thief.I can honestly say that, of all the 'autumnly' scores Williams ever wrote, this is the weakest one. Williams has done similar scores before, but they were better.AlexandreIt's one of John Williams' plainest scores, though to be fair, the movie itself is one of the plainest Williams has scored. Even so, I still find it more entertaining and emotionally involving than most Desplat scores of similar scope and intent (The reason I make this comparison is because I believe Desplat would have scored the film had Williams not been interested). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 John Williams is better then anyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It is definitely one Williams' weakest scores. Competently written, as usual, but with nothing very interesting to say.I take it that you have not heard those swinging 60s comedy scores.Sodom and Gomorrah (Tadlow re-recording) by Miklós Rózsa: This is actually getting better with each listen. The composer lavished enormous amount of care on this music despite the movie being a clunker and Rózsa being exhausted by the two epics he scored the year before. While it definitely sounds like him through and through on every bar there is still enough new material to keep it thoroughly engaging. While it might exhaust you aurally after the 2 hour mammoth of a musical narrative of the truly epic kind, it is well worth the time and investment. Smaller doses of it provide a more easily digestable experience. Spectre by Thomas Newman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now