Jay 37,352 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Danny Elfman - Avengers: Age of UltronMaybe someday I'll listen to Tyler's contributions to the OST. Meanwhile I've probably listened to Elfman's a dozen times. Good stuff. I'd love a recording sessions leak. The main theme always sounds nice in each track its used in. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Currently listening to Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace complete/near-complete edit.It's entertaining. But it just doesn't feel like Star Wars to me. I hear a lot of similarities to Hook and other scores from that era. Maybe I shouldn't have listened to Empire Strikes Back before this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Its more "Star Wars-y" than AOTC or ROTS, but its still not "Star Wars-y" like the original trilogy is, or the new score will likely be. Complete edits are superior to either officicial release, but an edit that removes some of the most boring underscore and all those source pieces would be even better. Also, I like it when Star Wars scores end with a REALLY strong finale cue, like TESB or AOTC, and not with a source-y kind of gimmick cue, like ROTJ and TPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Was that the Battlestar Galactica theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Danny Elfman - GoosebumpsWow! This was a lot of fun! It starts to lose steam a bit towards the end of the main program, but I think thats mostly because its so action heavy, not balanced enough. I'm in the bonus track section now, and there's a lot of nice underscore here! Looking forward to re-listening to this in chrono order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Lord of the Flies by Philippe SardeThat one is pretty much a Rite of Spring adaptaion. But I like, nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I love the three-sigh motif in that one.Stiff's motif? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Sigh...It's Steef! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Really liked it? It's fun, but hardly anything to get excited about. It's lacking a strong main theme, for one. It's among the best that 2015 has to offer, but wouldn't even make a top 100 list of all scores ever made, or a top 15 of SilvestriMy favorite scores of 20151. Mission Impossible Rogue Nation2 Tomorrowland3 Inside Out4 Jupiter Ascending5 Jurassic World6 Wolf Totem7 Age of Ultron (Danny's parts - still haven't listened to Tyler's!)8 The Walk9 Pan10 Fifty Shades of GreyOnly those first 7 scores I've listened to a dozen times or more. The others are good scores that warranted a few listens but don't get me super excited. The Walk is really fun, though. Pan maybe I'll like more once I see if the film.Still a lot more I need to hear, like Living In The Age of Airplanes, Southpaw, The 33, Star Wars, In The Heart of the Sea, Crimson Peak, The Good Dinosaur, Goosebumps, Spectre, probably othersI've also heard Ant-Man, Man from UNCLE, Spy, Kingsman, and Bridge of Spies, and none of were anything special to me, but I plan on giving each another chance soon for sure.Just realized something: you didn't include The Seventh Son!EDIT: Oh, OK, that's a 2014 score. Didn't realize that, since the film was released in 2015 in most countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Dang, I plum forgot all about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 And yet...Marco Beltrami - Seventh Son (Varese OST)Great CD! Definitely one of the best scores of 2015! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Yes. Like I said, I forgot all about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 But how can you forget all about "one of the best scores of 2015"?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I don't think there are enough good scores this year to make a top 10 list. Maybe a top 6 list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I could only make a Top 4.5 list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Yea, as I said in my post, only the first 7 in my list I had actually listened to a dozen times yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Just finished Family Plot. Fantastic score.Up next: Raiders of the Lost Ark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Just finished Family Plot. Fantastic score.I like the end title to that one but the rest of the score is kind of "meh" for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Family Plot is an awesome score. I actually remembered some of the music from the last act being kinda boring, but this time around, I was on the edge of my seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The score that many non-film score listeners seem to revere for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Well I don't like the artsy fartsy dilettantes who cherry pick scores to like based on what they feel they're expected to like (which is the reason so many revere this one), but at least this is good.It's the same crowd who put on their furs to go to the symphony because they're so fucking cultured and refined, to the point where it doesn't matter if they have any interest in what they're hearing, only that they're doing something "important." If only we could all be on that level."Yes, I love film music! The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly, The Godfather, and Psycho are my favorites! And isn't Citizen Kane just the best film of all time? It's so profound." Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 If there was ever a film score that deserved massive iconic status, it's that one. Weed killer commercials don't riff on it because it's seen as this all important piece of film music. It's because it's the essence of cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Lord of the Flies by Philippe SardeThat one is pretty much a Rite of Spring adaptaion. But I like, nonethelessYes that can't escape notice while listening. I liked the idea of employing a boys choir to illustrate the origin of the main characters and the Rite does give it a nice allusion to the savagery of earlier times the boys soon revert to on the island in the story.Well I don't like the artsy fartsy dilettantes who cherry pick scores to like based on what they feel they're expected to like (which is the reason so many revere this one), but at least this is good.It's the same crowd who put on their furs to go to the symphony because they're so fucking cultured and refined, to the point where it doesn't matter if they have any interest in what they're hearing, only that they're doing something "important." If only we could all be on that level."Yes, I love film music! The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly, The Godfather, and Psycho are my favorites! And isn't Citizen Kane just the best film of all time? It's so profound."Full of vim and verve today aren't we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Its more "Star Wars-y" than AOTC or ROTS, but its still not "Star Wars-y" like the original trilogy is, or the new score will likely be. Complete edits are superior to either officicial release, but an edit that removes some of the most boring underscore and all those source pieces would be even better. Also, I like it when Star Wars scores end with a REALLY strong finale cue, like TESB or ROTS, and not with a source-y kind of gimmick cue, like ROTJ and TPM.You mention really strong Star Wars finales, and leave out Attack of the Clones? See what you did? You made me go and use an emoji! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Ack! I meant to type AOTC there, not ROTS! I fixed my post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Attack of the Clones indeed has the best finale after Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. And the most distinctive action music in prequel trilogy.And the best theme in the prequel trilogy.There, I said all that.Karol Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Attack of the Clones indeed has the best finale after Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. And the most distinctive action music in the prequel trilogy.I agree with these statements!Sorry but DOTF is still a better theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The thing about DOTF that it is more of a concert arrangement of one cue, rather than a theme of its own. It's very much like The Adventures of Mutt, The Forest Battle, The Adventure Continues in that respect. The only different is that it does contain a theme that is used elsewhere. And that theme is really good indeed. Not sure if the best, though.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 It's a concert arrangement of a theme from the underscore. The theme is used throughout the entire third act of the picture, and reprised in AOTC and ROTS.It's not like the Forest Battle and those others you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I always thought of DOTF as a combination of three different ideas, two of which are actually recurring in the score. But it's also its own thing when they play all at once. In that sense, it is very much like The Forest Battle (which contains recurring Ewok theme) The choral bit itself is specific pretty much only to the duel scene. I don't think the reprise in Revenge of the Sith really counts (yeah, I know the chorus was newly recorded). And that statement in Attack of the Clones is very bizarre, probably due to temp track love. So I don't think really think they mean all that much (sort of like Nazgul theme in The Hobbit).This is how I see it anyway, not forcing anyone to agree. Just explaining why Duel of the Fates isn't a satisfying "major theme" to me in the end. The concert piece remains, of course, very memorable. But I could never quite figure out what it was meant to represent and why was it used all over the Naboo battle (not that I'm complaining). I was hoping it would be used as a recurring "fate/ancient prophecy" theme all across prequel trilogy (the AOTC statement would then make sense) but it proved not to be the case. Disappointing, really. Same goes for Anakin's theme.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I always thought of DOTF as a combination of three different ideas, two of which are actually recurring in the score. But it's also its own thing when they play all at once. In that sense, it is very much like The Forest Battle (which contains recurring Ewok theme) The choral bit itself is specific pretty much only to the duel scene. I don't think the reprise in Revenge of the Sith really counts (yeah, I know the chorus was newly recorded). And that statement in Attack of the Clones is very bizarre, probably due to temp track love. So I don't think really think they mean all that much (sort of like Nazgul theme in The Hobbit).This is how I see it anyway, not forcing anyone to agree. Just explaining why Duel of the Fates isn't a satisfying "major theme" to me in the end. The concert piece remains, of course, very memorable. But I could never quite figure out what it was meant to represent and why was it used all over the Naboo battle (not that I'm complaining). I was hoping it would be used as a recurring "fate/ancient prophecy" theme all across prequel trilogy (the AOTC statement would then make sense) but it proved not to be the case. Disappointing, really. Same goes for Anakin's theme.KarolIt is another great theme never fully used in the Prequel trilogy and given a few token appearances after the Phantom Menace to give tenuous links between the films. JW could have mined so much dramatic gold from the tri-part construction of the ostinato, the long lined melody and chorus motif. I would have loved to have heard some kind of extension or continous development of Duel of the Fates in RotS duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Much like the first Hobbit score, a lot of ideas are set up that we all thought would be elaborated on and contnue throughout the whole trilogy, but didn't.At least with The Hobbit, the Thorin, Erebor, Woodland Realm, and Smaug themes WERE expanded greatly in the sequel scores.But then the Bilbo, Company, Journey, Radagast, Gandalf, Beorn (before the 2 film split) themes just weren't....It's still kind of more of a shame that Anakin's Theme wasn't than any of those, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 That whole working backwards musically thing is a failed experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I dunno. The History of the Ring Theme statements in The Hobbit kind of sound appropriately "before" the LOTR counterparts.The Sauron/Mordor stuff kinda started out that way, but then got big and grand in the second film anyway.But then other stuff was just flat out gimmicky cameos, like the Fellowship Theme in BOFA, or Gandalf's Fireworks, or Elven Healing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I personally see DOTF as a sort of finale theme sort of like the choral theme in Giacchino's first Star Trek score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Empire Strikes Back did the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Sorry but DOTF is still a better theme.But does DOTF get a statement that evokes any emotions other than danger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 It's not a versatile film, but I still love it.Across The Stars is perfectly great too, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 It's not a versatile film, but I still love it.Across The Stars is perfectly great too, of course.I know you have said that you don't get into ROTS much, but I love what that score does to that theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 It's not a versatile film, but I still love it.Across The Stars is perfectly great too, of course.I know you have said that you don't get into ROTS much, but I love what that score does to that theme.Yup. It actually felt nice to hear Williams reworking a theme across two films, a rare treat with the Prequels. A lot of one film themes and motifs in those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yea....... exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 If I ever do an extended edition (not to improve the film, because it obviously wouldn't) edit of the Prequels, I am going to have someone write music for the added scenes and the scenes with tracked music and try to establish more continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Franz Waxman - Rebecca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 How is Waxman's Rebecca? I remeber when I watched the film a while ago for the first time that the music was rather melodramatic in the typical Golden Age style.I heartily recommend you to check out Christopher Gunning's version for the British 1997 film, which was recently released by the Caldera Records. You can find my small review of it on Films on Wax site.You can also read my extensive thoughts on Rózsa's Sodom and Gomorrah there. *Shameless self-promotion over*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 In celebration of my 20,000th post on this board, I'm listening to......the Academy Award winning score from Brokeback Mountain by Gustavo Santaolalla!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 In celebration of my 20,000th post on this board, I'm listening to......the Academy Award winning score from Brokeback Mountain by Gustavo Santaolalla!KarolWhat a waste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 In celebration of my 20,000th post on this board, I'm listening to......the Academy Award winning score from Brokeback Mountain by Gustavo Santaolalla!Karol What an anticlimax man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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