Incanus 5,714 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Fine perhaps but not great, not in my book anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 He is very eclectic in terms of his interest. So his scores will appeal to different people at different times. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Star Trek: First Contact complete score TFA FYC ROTLA OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Godzilla by Alexandre Desplat. One of my favourite big scores of recent years. He captured the anxious post-nuclear tone perfectly and the title sequence is just spot on representation of what Godzilla should sound like - grandiose but also strangely earnest and sombre. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The main title is easily the best cue in the score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Best? Worst? It's not my favourite one. That would be this one: Karol - who also love the two big power plant cues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, crocodile said: Best? Worst? Yes, easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I like the score, but feel that the great main titles cue sets expectations high that the eventual score never returns to. Nothing gets quite as thrilling as that piece, somehow. Back to the Ocean is really nice, too, in a completely different way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I expected big badass orchestral mayhem from Godzilla. Alas it sounds a bit too prissy for its own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Main title has an amazing energy to it, that's true, and it's a great overture. But I actually like the entire score, really like Desplat's texture and how he manages to modernise the archaic monster tropes and still remain truthful to them. Have you seen the film, Inky? Also, Howard Shore is a fan of this score. So that makes me right. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Where did Howard mention that he was a fan of the score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Someone asked Doug whether Shore ever listens to contemporary film scores. And he replied he really liked Godzilla. It was somewhere on Twitter, probably somewhere around the release of BOTFA. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 There you go: @violinthief 1. I think it would depend on the director, etc., but he's always open to new projects. 2) Yes. He loved Desplat's Godzilla!— Doug Adams (@DougAdamsMusic) 2 Novembre 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Might be my favorite Desplat score for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I still prefer Monuments Men and Grand Budapest Hotel from the same year. Man, what a year he had! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 It was a indeed fantastic year for Desplat! And while I had certain reservations about Godzilla, it has some truly exceptional writing. It's one of his finest, if not best action scores. One of my favourite moments: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Michael Giacchino - Zootopia Slowly warming up to this one...... Marco Beltrami - Seventh Son Christopher Young - The Monkey King Danny Elfman - Mission: Impossible John Williams - Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Herrmann- Journey to the Centre of the Earth and Mysterious Island Barry- King Kong and Robin & Marian Logan's Run once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 With "clean"* versions of "The Flag Parade" and "Return of the Jedi End Credits" on CD3. John Williams: The Great Movie Soundtracks (2015, Sony Classical, 88875127322, Compilation) * Whatever they are edited cues or have been taken directly from the tapes, they sound clean to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone The way John gets the tone of the thing so bloody well and on point is almost amusing. Bespin and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Star Trek: Nemesis complete score I love it! Star Trek: Generations complete score Sir Hilary Bray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Those are both better than almost everything. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 TFA OST This album could use some trimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 minute ago, E.T. and Elliot said: TFA OST This album could use some trimming. Sigh. Why did you decide to start emulating Drax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Han and Leia and Snoke really slow the pace of the album down. They need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Sure they do. Williams should have cut a 45 minute album like ROTJ, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Minority Report Karol Incanus and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 23, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2016 FOTR complete recordings today. Just the absolute pinnacle of everything. There is no recording of symphonic music that surpasses the quality and character of this one. John Kurlander should have had his own category that year at the Oscars. KK, Quintus and Jay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: Sure they do. Williams should have cut a 45 minute album like ROTJ, right? Yes! I prefer the old school approach of furiously-paced 45 minute albums that trim out all the fat as opposed to a bloated 70 minute album with uninteresting musical selections that I don't even want to listen to. Not that TFA is a bad OST at all, it's actually quite good. The changes I would make are relatively minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I miss when Thor was the only weirdo with such ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 7 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: FOTR complete recordings today. Just the absolute pinnacle of everything. There is no recording of symphonic music that surpasses the quality and character of this one. John Kurlander should have had his own category that year at the Oscars. I can think of a single moment that has bothered me in the FotR CR mix, the Pass of Caradhras passage where we hear the Seduction of the Ring theme on boys chorus. It is mixed far too low when it should be more prominent than that whisper we hear on the set. I don't know if the DVD 5.1. audio has a better mix of this moment. TTT also has that curious dampening of the Way to Mordor motif's horn solo on the track My Precious. It feels deliberate although I don't know why would the composer want to tone it down in such a way. But these are about the only moments on these recordings I can say I have a trouble with. I can't fault the music itself which is of course brilliant. I just wish I had more time to revisit the whole 3 hour experience of FotR or TTT or the nigh 4 hour spectacle of RotK more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Incanus said: I can think of a single moment that has bothered me in the FotR CR mix, the Pass of Caradhras passage where we hear the Seduction of the Ring theme on boys chorus. It is mixed far too low when it should be more prominent than that whisper we hear on the set. I don't know if the DVD 5.1. audio has a better mix of this moment. TTT also has that curious dampening of the Way to Mordor motif's horn solo on the track My Precious. It feels deliberate although I don't know why would the composer want to tone it down in such a way. But these are about the only moments on these recordings I can say I have a trouble with. I can't fault the music itself which is of course brilliant. I just wish I had more time to revisit the whole 3 hour experience of FotR or TTT or the nigh 4 hour spectacle of RotK more often. I'd add the amplified bass at the beginning of "Caras Galadhon" to that list. I don't really have an issue with the mixing of "The Pass of Caradhras" though. It sounds fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 The sudden dip in volume when the boys chorus comes in feels very strange. The River by John Williams The Blue Max by Jerry Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 12 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: FOTR complete recordings today. Just the absolute pinnacle of everything. There is no recording of symphonic music that surpasses the quality and character of this one. John Kurlander should have had his own category that year at the Oscars. That score in expanded form is a force of nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Even if the film would have been a horrible flop and Shore never got the chance to do the other two FOTR would have stood as a masterpiece score of the era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: Even if the film would have been a horrible flop and Shore never got the chance to do the other two FOTR would have stood as a masterpiece score of the era. Agreed. Although the thought of not ever having TTT or RotK to round out the masterful musical journey is horrible one. Raiders of the Lost Ark by John Williams: As I have said before, one of those perfect film scores. Everything just falls into place so effortlessly. The 80+ minute score is also a terrific fluid and varied listening experience. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom by John Williams: What I most like about this score is how much Williams got into the exotic, dark and weird with this one. The use of specialty instruments, the sacrifical choruses, the percussion and the strange vocal effects are among the highlights for me. It is almost exhaustingly hectic with its frenetic action and plays the Raiders March to death by the end but the sheer bravado of juggling the sprightly action, the atmospherics, the local musical colours and conjuring up so many fine themes and playing them for all their worth propels this one easily to the 5 star tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Star Trek: Generations complete score Star Trek: Nemesis expanded edit (removing a few tracks between Repairs and The Mirror) for a superior listening experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 20 hours ago, E.T. and Elliot said: Yes! I prefer the old school approach of furiously-paced 45 minute albums Yes! Only a furiously fast-paced album is a good album! Music should never be allowed to breathe and take its time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 If an album does not doesn't conform only to the lowest common denominator of attention span and patience, then it should not exist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 That is the third time today that I've witnessed someone reference that scene, both in person and on the internet. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Anyway. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Star Wars: The Force AwakensbOST Cinema Gala: Star Wars/Encounters of the Third Kind (Zubin Mehta) Ah, Close Encounters, my old friend. What a way to get reacquainted. Arguably one of the greatest scores ever composed. Right up there with E.T., Jaws, Star Wars, Raiders, Amazing Stories: The Mission and Always. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 On 2/24/2016 at 0:48 AM, Incanus said: I can think of a single moment that has bothered me in the FotR CR mix, the Pass of Caradhras passage where we hear the Seduction of the Ring theme on boys chorus. It is mixed far too low when it should be more prominent than that whisper we hear on the set. I don't know if the DVD 5.1. audio has a better mix of this moment. TTT also has that curious dampening of the Way to Mordor motif's horn solo on the track My Precious. It feels deliberate although I don't know why would the composer want to tone it down in such a way. It's more because of Dynamic Range than because of mixing choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I love dynamic range! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 What Inky is talking about is not dynamic range, but mixing choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 3 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: That is the third time today that I've witnessed someone reference that scene, both in person and on the internet. Weird. It is weird that it is so few, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Harry Potter 1 Harry Potter 2 Harry Potter 3 Nixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 17 hours ago, Jay said: What Inky is talking about is not dynamic range, but mixing choices. I'm sure he thinks that is what he is talking about, but I think he is wrong or at least it is not entirely a mixing problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Star Trek: Nemesis complete score Does anyone else think Goldsmith scored the rape of Counselor Troi brilliantly? I'm not trying to be a creep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 10 hours ago, Faleel said: I'm sure he thinks that is what he is talking about, but I think he is wrong or at least it is not entirely a mixing problem. Wrong or right and whatever the fault is, it still sounds awful to have that horn solo almost inaudible, the same with the boys chorus. I know that years and years of listening to music might have hurt my hearing but I do not consider myself quite deaf yet so dynamic range should not ruin my listening pleasures for the sake of that range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Mmmmh..this comes really rather...unexpected. Third blockbuster within a year that is strictly Hollywood 'classical' (meaning lots of woodwinds and underscore not conceived on sequencers), some of it is trimmable, a lot unexpectedly dissonant. Are we into the Renaissance yet? Incanus and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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