What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)

[KK 3,310]

Don't remember it, to be honest. But will revisit soon.

[Brundlefly 2,400]

2 hours ago, publicist said:

Dissonant melancholy, Shore and Cronenberg remain a winning combination.

You just made me think, there was a new Cronenberg movie. That is cruel.

[crocodile 8,863]

 Mission: Impossible by Danny Elfman. I like the two Giacchino scores and the Joe Kraemer one very much. But this is the best outing in the series and definitely one of top 5 Elfman scores. It's just so playful and fun with plenty of thematic material to keep me engaged. Extremely intricate which is a surprise given how much of a rush job this was. It's respectful of the TV series in approach but also so Elfman. Both the OST and LLL are good. It's fun to hear the whole thing but I just love some album edits too (The Heist track).

 

Karol

[Edmilson 9,819]

Destiny OST (Michael Salvatori, C. Paul Johnson, Martin O'Donnell... and Paul McCartney)

 

It has something for everyone, from beautiful orchestral music representing space and its mysteries, until harsh, agressive electronic action music. It's pretty long, but full of highlights, enough to create great playlists from both styles.

 

Celeste (Lena Raine)

 

This came up on my Spotify while I was researching music for a space-themed RPG I'm going to DM:

 

https://open.spotify.com/album/5OZHQ7KG8k04IOkF50fACO

 

Surprisingly good electronic score with a 80s vibe, simultaneously playful and intimate, melancholic.

 

How to Train Your Dragon Trilogy (John Powell)

 

I just put the three OSTs while I was working. It was amazing to see Powell developing as a composer throughout this decade and three scores. On the first, he got great themes but was still a little rough, until he got more sophisticated with the second and even more with the amazing third score. It is his masterpiece, and alongside the best things this decade has brought for film music fans.

[crocodile 8,863]

 House of Sand and Fog by James Horner. It's not a bad score, this.

 

Karol

[Edmilson 9,819]

Actually, it's great. It is for Horner what Snow Falling on Cedars is for JNH, a small, intimate and more abstract score with a strong dramatic hook. I love The Waves of Caspian See theme, and there's some really touching music on This is No Longer Your House, The Dreams of Kings, The Shooting and We Have Travelled So Far, It Is Time To Return To Our Path.

[HunterTech 1,411]

Fant4stic (2015) - Marco Beltrami and Philip Glass

A surprisingly decent score, considering the film it accompanies. I think my favorite aspect of this has to be that sense of whimsy that's more prominent earlier on, which I feel is an element that's become more lacking in modern superhero scores. It often gets too focused on the "epicness" and "seriousness" for there to be any moments that reflect on the joy and wonder there likely could be when being a hero. Which is probably strange for this project, considering how moody it's intended to be. It's helped by how well the Glass sound is replicated in spots, though never to a degree of doing anything particularly unique with those mannerisms. And yes I do mean replicated, because Glass doesn't really do more than a small amount of cues, down to supposedly being busy at the time. Not to mention that unsurprisingly, Fox allegedly gave Beltrami and co. a hard time with the project. As such, it's difficult to not get that feeling that this could've been more, considering a Glass superhero score is a potentially intriguing idea. As is, it's a regular capeshit score that has dashes of PG in spots. The main theme is fine enough, though I certainly prefer John Ottman's from the previous live action incarnation. A lot of the underscore doesn't make too great of an impression, especially in the parts that feel a bit RCPish. However, I think the general sound of it, as well as some very compelling moments do elevate this to something I could recommend. I prefer Logan to this ultimately, but this definitely is worth looking at, at least once.

Also, is the Spotify embed broken? Not sure how you get it to work.

[Jules 59]

8 hours ago, HunterTech said:

Fant4stic (2015) - Marco Beltrami and Philip Glass

A surprisingly decent score, considering the film it accompanies. I think my favorite aspect of this has to be that sense of whimsy that's more prominent earlier on, which I feel is an element that's become more lacking in modern superhero scores. It often gets too focused on the "epicness" and "seriousness" for there to be any moments that reflect on the joy and wonder there likely could be when being a hero. Which is probably strange for this project, considering how moody it's intended to be. It's helped by how well the Glass sound is replicated in spots, though never to a degree of doing anything particularly unique with those mannerisms. And yes I do mean replicated, because Glass doesn't really do more than a small amount of cues, down to supposedly being busy at the time. Not to mention that unsurprisingly, Fox allegedly gave Beltrami and co. a hard time with the project. As such, it's difficult to not get that feeling that this could've been more, considering a Glass superhero score is a potentially intriguing idea. As is, it's a regular capeshit score that has dashes of PG in spots. The main theme is fine enough, though I certainly prefer John Ottman's from the previous live action incarnation. A lot of the underscore doesn't make too great of an impression, especially in the parts that feel a bit RCPish. However, I think the general sound of it, as well as some very compelling moments do elevate this to something I could recommend. I prefer Logan to this ultimately, but this definitely is worth looking at, at least once.

Also, is the Spotify embed broken? Not sure how you get it to work.

 

I remember listening to this when it came out, and actually quite enjoying it. Probably one of the few back then that I listened to without actually watching the film, which I've since kept clear of. 

[crocodile 8,863]

 Medal of Honor: Frontline and Medal of Honor: Airborne. Still some of the best Michael Giacchino albums.

 

Karol

[Jay 41,295]

On 3/6/2020 at 5:15 AM, crocodile said:

 Mission: Impossible by Danny Elfman. I like the two Giacchino scores and the Joe Kraemer one very much. But this is the best outing in the series and definitely one of top 5 Elfman scores. It's just so playful and fun with plenty of thematic material to keep me engaged. Extremely intricate which is a surprise given how much of a rush job this was. It's respectful of the TV series in approach but also so Elfman. Both the OST and LLL are good. It's fun to hear the whole thing but I just love some album edits too (The Heist track).

 

Karol

 

Oh man, The Heist is my LEAST favorite album edit!  It means the album completely skips over that amazing percussion & piccolo passage that's about 30 seconds into "Langley" on the LLL presentation, I love that bit!

 

 

On 3/6/2020 at 4:37 PM, Edmilson said:

Celeste (Lena Raine)

 

This came up on my Spotify while I was researching music for a space-themed RPG I'm going to DM:

 

https://open.spotify.com/album/5OZHQ7KG8k04IOkF50fACO

 

Surprisingly good electronic score with a 80s vibe, simultaneously playful and intimate, melancholic.

 

I've been hyping this score for years.  It's brilliant!  Sadly, she has yet to have a break-through followup...

[Trent Hoyt 13]

It has been too long since I've been on these forums and I'm finally starting to get back into listening to soundtracks again.  On the playlist tonight is Goldsmith's Alien, Williams' Images and Horner's Class Action.

[Naïve Old Fart 11,038]

Two of those I know, and both are outstanding examples of their kind.

[crocodile 8,863]

 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (OST+FYC) by Michael Giacchino. A pretty lacklustre Star Wars score but a pretty great Medal of Honor one.

 

Karol

[Kasey Kockroach 2,373]

An American Tail: Fievel Goes West, featuring Dr-

 

Aw nevermind, I’m actually listening to Call of the Wild. Again!

[crocodile 8,863]

Sodom and Gomorrah by Miklos Rozsa. I was in a mood for something full-bodied and classy this evening.

 

Karol

[Naïve Old Fart 11,038]

34 minutes ago, crocodile said:

I was in a mood for something full-bodied and classy this evening.

My 'phone # is 555-CALL ME

[publicist 4,647]

 

Nothing better than hardly known Horner flying music to start the day.

[crocodile 8,863]

 Legend by Jerry Goldsmith. Damn, this score is so good. It really manages to conjure up an entire fantastical world in my mind while I'm listening and it also glows beautifully on album. I really love the old Silva Screen album but also wonder whether we're going to hear an updated album sometime soon. 

 

Karol

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,305]

6 minutes ago, crocodile said:

I really love the old Silva Screen album but also wonder whether we're going to hear an updated album sometime soon. 

 

Karol

 

Does it matter? I mean if you enjoyed the old Silva album, then it obviously did the trick.

[publicist 4,647]

@crocodile Unlikely. But the good news is that the Silva album, retrieved from Mike Ross-Trevor's garage, is a Grade A expansion for its time (1992) and while there are mixing decisions that could be revised, it's as good as it gets.

 

Apart from the obvious highlights like 'Dress Waltz' I have always been partial to the atmospheric 2-minute main title that fuses 80's electronic aesthetics with Ravel/Debussy impressionism to great effect. Even Thor has to admit that he got that piece right, and it works wonders in the movie (as Edgar Froese of Tangerine Dream wholeheartedly admitted, when he saw the movie with Scott he turned to Scott and asked him why the hell he wanted to replace it).

 

 

[Jurassic Shark 14,229]

3 minutes ago, publicist said:

Unlikely. But the good news is that the Silva album, retrieved from Mike Ross-Trevor's garage, is a Grade A expansion for its time (1992) and while there are mixing decisions that could be revised, it's as good as it gets.

 

You mean the masters are lost?

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,305]

7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

You mean the masters are lost?

 

I think the score as prepared for the Silva release was sourced from DAT tape downmixes and that was all they could find.

 

12 minutes ago, publicist said:

@crocodile Unlikely. But the good news is that the Silva album, retrieved from Mike Ross-Trevor's garage, is a Grade A expansion for its time (1992) and while there are mixing decisions that could be revised, it's as good as it gets.

 

Apart from the obvious highlights like 'Dress Waltz' I have always been partial to the atmospheric 2-minute main title that fuses 80's electronic aesthetics with Ravel/Debussy impressionism to great effect. Even Thor has to admit that he got that piece right, and it works wonders in the movie (as Edgar Froese of Tangerine Dream wholeheartedly admitted, when he saw the movie with Scott he turned to Scott and asked him why the hell he wanted to replace it).

 

 

 

He'd argue it must never be heard outside the film!

[publicist 4,647]

Of course not, Goldsmith omitted that very piece on his own limited score release done by UpArts in 1986. 

 

As for tapes and masters, afair Goldsmith recorded cues like Fairy Dance in pre-production, later the score proper. God knows where all this stuff was stored, if it was at all.

[crocodile 8,863]

4 hours ago, Þekþiþm said:

 

Does it matter? I mean if you enjoyed the old Silva album, then it obviously did the trick.

I am just curious what else is there. The album itself is perfectly fine as is.

 

The Secret of NIMH. Not fan of the song(s) but the score itself is mint.

 

Karol

[publicist 4,647]

 

Short and kinda cool. A pulsating, modern spy score (jazz riffs with bass flutes, e-guitars and a good-sized string orchestra), not unlike the (more fleshed out) Motherless Brooklyn in that it recalls musically better times but puts its own stamp on it. Recommended.

[crocodile 8,863]

 The Wind and the Lion. Currently one of my favourite scores from the imagination of one gorgeous ponytail.

 

Karol

[Naïve Old Fart 11,038]

I don't think that Jerry had a ponytail, in '75, but, you're right: it's a magnificent score.

[LSH 1,097]

ORI AND THE WILL OF THE WISPS - GARETH COKER

 

Wow! Had no idea this had been in the works so an absolutely lovely surprise. Loved the first score and, so far, this is even better. it's absolutely gorgeous in places.

[Nick Parker 3,047]

On 3/12/2020 at 1:51 AM, publicist said:

(as Edgar Froese of Tangerine Dream wholeheartedly admitted, when he saw the movie with Scott he turned to Scott and asked him why the hell he wanted to replace it)

 

Is there an interview for this?

[publicist 4,647]

e. g. here: https://cnmsarchive.wordpress.com/2015/01/07/the-musics-for-legend/

 

But i was thinking of an older, german one that probably never went online.

[publicist 4,647]

 

Camille Claudel - Exquisite Yared, role model for many string-led drama scores that came after (1987). The richness of the string writing recalls the best from that field.

[redishere 698]

I'm basically locked up in my house here in Italy because of the coronavirus, so I definitely need cheerful music:

I recently listened to the original Toy Story album, and I loved it.
My question is: what's the difference between that old version and the 2015 Legacy Edition?
Apart from the additional demos, is it just the same as the original album but chronological and with separate cues, or does it have more material?

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,357]

Convoi exceptionnel by Gregoire Hetzel

The Dark Knight by Hans Zimmer & James Newton Howard 

Inception by Hans Zimmer (Complete Score)

Dolor y gloria by Alberto Iglesias

Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs by John Powell

[A24 4,722]

 

There's a track on this score that would not sound out of place in Schindler's List, which tells me Williams didn't make his score sound Eastern enough.

[crocodile 8,863]

Chairman's Waltz is deliberately European. It is supposed to sound like that.

 

Karol

[KK 3,310]

His last truly great score.

[Not Mr. Big 4,781]

1 hour ago, KK said:

His last truly great score.

False

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,305]

His last truly great score was Temple of Doom.

[SteveMc 2,677]

8 hours ago, KK said:

His last truly great score.

No, that's The Book Thief. 

[Meredith McKay 7,350]

3 hours ago, SteveMc said:

No, that's The Book Thief. 

You are brave your highness.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,373]

8 hours ago, Þekþiþm said:

His last truly great score was Daddy-O.

 

 

[Lady Dimitrescu 9,305]

6 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said:

 

 

 

It was all downhill since then.

[crocodile 8,863]

 The Swarm. This is a terrific potent 1970's Goldsmith. Great stuff.

 

Karol

[crocodile 8,863]

Across the Stars

Far and Away

 

Karol

[publicist 4,647]

 

Epidemically fitting LLL's newest Goldsmith released landed on my doorstep.

 

For a no-holds-barred action spectacle from 1978 it's good news that the sound is cracking. The wealth of trombones (a Goldsmith stable through the latter part of the 70's) rip roar through the speakers and the main action pieces are Jerry pantheon-worthy. The score proper is of course musically brilliantly conceived, though Goldsmith can't escape the sheer idiocy of it, having to score a ludicrous amount of inept scenes of Ben Johnson and Fred MacMurray wooing Olivia De Havilland, but whenever the bees are involved the composer belts up. The buzzing brass effects sound even more amazing now (the players are top-notch, if you compare i. e. The Bees Arrive with the lackluster Prague recording), add to that Goldsmith's always reliable military might that comes through already in early cues like The Black Mass, and you got one of 70's great action scores.

 

 

[crocodile 8,863]

Alien

Capricorn One

The Blue Max

The Ghost and the Darkness

 

Karol

[Trent Hoyt 13]

I've been listening to Ron Jones Next Generation scores.

[crocodile 8,863]

4 hours ago, Trent Hoyt said:

I've been listening to Ron Jones Next Generation scores.

Any specific ones?

 

Karol

[Trent Hoyt 13]

I've been working my way through the Film Score Monthly Ron Jones box.  I'm on disc 7 right now which has "Up the Long Ladder," "The Emissary," and "Shades of Gray."

[crocodile 8,863]

Superman: The Movie

El Cid

 

Karol