Jay 40,628 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I really like "Going Home", probably more than the "Dry Your Tears, Afrika" proper Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I don't have much patience for the Americana material. But the first half of that score is some of Williams' finest dramatic scoring. Cinque's theme is haunting stuff. "Crossing the Atlantic" is brilliant. And clichés aside, I've always had a soft spot for "Dry Your Tears, Afrika". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, KK said: I don't have much patience for the Americana material. Fun fact: Williams originally wrote "Mr. Adams Takes the Case" with the subtitle "For Stu" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meredith McKay 7,156 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Fun fact: Williams originally wrote "Mr. Adams Takes the Case" with the subtitle "For Stu" The Long Road To Justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 12 hours ago, Fal J. M. Skywalker said: The Long Road To Justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 The movie was unspeakably dull, but upon seeing parts of it i instantly returned to the score which may not be a beacon of complexity, but is still a shining recent example of great movie scoring. Scenes like the 'Houston' sequence just have this special crackle a well-done Horner or Goldsmith cue would offer and Hurwitz's tunes are not shabby, either. It's the best thing about the movie. You have to build a 30-minute album out of the awfully put-together release, though. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,399 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 An OST with 37 tracks?! There is no single Goldsmith expansion that has that much tracks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,895 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: An OST with 37 tracks?! There is no single Goldsmith expansion that has that much tracks! US Marshals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,399 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: US Marshals? Oh shit... I forgot about that. Eh... it doesn't count due to the producers' lack of competence. It's actually 27 tracks. 3 hours ago, publicist said: [First Man] was unspeakably dull. Do you like Whiplash or La La Land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Whiplash was OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,399 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I've never seen a film by this director, but a despite a lot of praise a few down-to-earth critics I really trust don't like him all too well. Sounds like another Inarritu as far as the general overestimation goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,952 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 A nice discovery from John Barry: The Scarlet Letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Oops, I listened to Amistad again. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 The Ten Commandments, Elmer Bernstein Air Force One, The Swarm and Escape from the Planet of the Apes- Goldsmith selected tracks Last Jedi, Force Awakens and Star Wars/A New Hope but the usual from Empire: Clash of Lightsabers, Rescue from Cloud City and Finale The second of those Empire tracks starts off in a way that for some reason made me think it was Princess Leia's Theme but that's lockdown for you. However, the measure of the genius of Mr Williams in my humblest opinion is the fact pieces still pack a wallop. Example: when Han Solo & The Princess builds at about 1.35 in the Finale track and becomes more up to the end credits. Feels emotional, wrenching -on one hand Han is gone and on the other, some hope that the Rebels will triumph another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,748 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Home alone. Just because it's amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,952 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 It's a christmas score!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,800 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 The World Is Not Enough. I am really pleased with the recent expansion. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 The River - John Williams It had been a year or so since I’d listened to it, wanted to re-familiarize myself with it ahead of the Intrada. The more “pop orchestra” sections might not be for everyone, but I find them charming, and the rest of the score is so soulful and thoughtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,952 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Elliot Goldenthal - Batman Forever Expanded Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,952 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Ok ok ok.... Back in the 80s The River Spacecamp Witches of Eastwick Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,952 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Stuck in the 80s Maurice Jarre - Witness Randy Newman - The Natural George Delerue - Agnes of God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,864 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 On 4/30/2020 at 12:06 PM, Disco Stu said: The River - John Williams It's one of his two very best scores from 1984. 23 hours ago, Bespin said: The River Spacecamp Witches of Eastwick 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Witness The Natural Agnes of God All fine scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,800 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (La-La Land) Star Wars (RCA) Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,800 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back. Even after 23 years the 1997 album is still the best release of this score. To be honest, I never had any complaints about this one, or the first one (Jedi is another story). Yes, I know, sound was better elsewhere in many places but this is by far the most powerful assembly of a score with a beautiful clear story structure. I actually had this album on a cassette set (!) first where the first side ended on the battle of Hoth and the last side started with Carbon Freeze. You couldn't divide it better if you tried. Karol Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Blues 66 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Superman 4. Terrible movie with a great score. Meredith McKay and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,800 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Return of the Jedi (RCA). A problematic album but I'm still grateful that it exists. The score itself is very good but it feels like a notch or two below the first two. But then, it actually reflects the quality of the very lacklustre film. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,463 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Return of the Jedi (RCA). A problematic album but I'm still grateful that it exists. The score itself is very good but it feels like a notch or two below the first two. But then, it actually reflects the quality of the very lacklustre film. It has more filler (which certainly goes hand in hand with the film), but the highlights are up there with the best from the trilogy (that actually goes for the film as well, but as whole it's much more lacklustre than the music). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,350 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Its highlights are the best of the entire saga. And I love how atmospheric and evocative the music for the Jabba's Palace sequence is, not sure if it is what some consider filler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,748 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 4/29/2020 at 9:30 PM, Bespin said: It's a christmas score!!! I don't care! I just discovered an extra note on the celesta in Finale from HA2 and am so moved right now, all because of one note! Also, do you know this radio station? Now THAT is indifensible. https://ieradio.org/christmas-fm/ bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,864 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 4/29/2020 at 8:30 PM, Bespin said: It's a Christmas score!!! Like the film, Bes, it's a Christmas score, that can be enjoyed any time of the year...along with DIE HARD, GREMLINS, BRAZIL, YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES, and BATMAN RETURNS bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,800 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire. Now, I never really thought it sounds much like SW but it is nevertheless a very cool album and McNeely's finest work. In fact I sort of appreciate it more for not getting too close to Williams, it's just getting bit tiresome when people try to ape Johnny verbatim in all those video games. I prefer an original take as the only viable artistic choice, and it must the right one because this is particular work remains one of the few examples that stound out even after 24 years. Always loved the half-score/half-tone poem feel of this. Pity they didn't do any more of those. Karol Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,350 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 7 hours ago, crocodile said: Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire. Now, I never really thought it sounds much like SW but it is nevertheless a very cool album and McNeely's finest work. In fact I sort of appreciate it more for not getting too close to Williams, it's just getting bit tiresome when people try to ape Johnny verbatim in all those video games. I prefer an original take as the only viable artistic choice, and it must the right one because this is particular work remains one of the few examples that stound out even after 24 years. Always loved the half-score/half-tone poem feel of this. Pity they didn't do any more of those. Karol I also love how you can feel the space of the room in the recording crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,800 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Romão said: I also love how you can feel the space of the room in the recording I actually always liked those old "concert hall-like" Varese recordings. They were less bothered about recreating every minutiae of the original film score and instead treated film music in the same way you would concert music. As an autonomous piece of work, if that makes sense. I like they performed and recorded these scores in unique ways because that is what made them stand out. Karol Nick Parker and Romão 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,350 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, crocodile said: I actually always liked those old "concert hall-like" Varese recordings. They were less bothered about recreating every minutiae of the original film score and instead treated film music in the same way you would concert music. As an autonomous piece of work, if that makes sense. I like they performed and recorded these scores in unique ways because that is what made them stand out. Karol Very much so. You get the same feeling with Gerhardt's ESB re-recording crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,800 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Yes! Legends of the Fall. The new Intrada album. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,998 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 The Terminal - John Williams War of the Worlds - John Williams Jaws - John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 484 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Amazing Spider-Man 2 - Hans Zimmer, et al. One of Zimmer's more out-of-the-box scores, making it more pleasing to the ears than a Snyder or Nolan film. Some of it doesn't work (too much dubstep), but Zimmer tries to avoid repeating himself too much. Even if it doesn't work for some folks, it's less abrasive and droning than The Dark Knight Rises or Batman v. Superman. HunterTech and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 1,354 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 It's probably objectively the most disjointed Spidey score of the lot, but there's a lot that I do enjoy about it. It manages to exemplify what I like about Zimmer as a composer, and does far more for me than some of his more popular works. Really makes me want to see him do more bad films down the road (or at least the ones where has free reign to do whatever). I like the general sound of Rises, but the actual score probably isn't as well put together as Begins or TDK are. There's only so many times I can hear Bane's theme be used before it gets monotonous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,748 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 The Stepford Wives, David Arnold. Halfway through and seriously thinking about picking this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,864 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 You should. Along with CHANGING LANES, it's an underrated Arnold gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,748 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I don't know that movie yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,864 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 CHANGING LANES? It's very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,748 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Okay, might watch it one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,835 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Austin Wintory's Banner Saga (1-3) Listened to each one after finishing its game. Love it. I was honestly too drawn into the first to really notice the music but after that ending I just had to give it a try. Then by 3 I spent half the combat thinking "Ooh, this sounds so fun!" It's definitely a very fitting, well-executed needle-sharp vision. The obligatory wintry string but with that plucked instrument, the voice bits, that frothing brass, the more out there instruments where needed, the heavily distorted electric guitar, the definitely noticeable development in complexity and gradual shift towards lower more aggressive stuff in general by the third (probably best exemplified by the main menu, Steps, Into Memory, the first one's main theme (We Will Not Be Forgotten) on the same brass getting lost in dissonance, creating a dark underlayer for other instruments to pick the theme up again over) the Icelandic ballads, the rythmic kickass action, all get together into not exactly easy listening but a bleak but rewarding and enjoyable atmosphere. The peak for me is still Of Our Bones, The Hills/We Are All Guests Upon The Land, though, on this first listen. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,605 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 The Witches of Eastwick I miss when great directors like George Miller could challenge Williams to step out of his comfort zone and produce unique scores. This one is great, and doesn't feel like it was written in the 80s, it sounds more like an ancestor to the first three Potters and Tintin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,864 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 TWOE currently resides at #4 in my all-time top 10 JW scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,800 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 The Agony and the Ecstasy. Possibly one of the finest film scores ever written. It's devilishly intelligent and elegant music that beautifully stands on its own. I wish I could track down a reasonably priced DE disc. I'm not paying £80 for this. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,864 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, crocodile said: The Agony and the Ecstasy. It's devilishly intelligent and elegant music that beautifully stands on its own. That's Alex North, for you: Hollywood's most disrespected composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,952 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 If I could turn back time... the OSTs... Naïve Old Fart and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 484 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 5/7/2020 at 2:50 AM, HunterTech said: I like the general sound of Rises, but the actual score probably isn't as well put together as Begins or TDK are. There's only so many times I can hear Bane's theme be used before it gets monotonous. The thing that irritates me about Rises is that, aside from the Catwoman and Bane material, a lot of material is simply pasted in from the previous two scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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