Jay 40,693 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Yea it's great bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020  Unfortunately, no hitherto-unknown late masterpiece was unearthed with James Horner's rejected 2013 score for 'Romeo & Juliet' (Abel Korzeniowski took the honours). Written around the same time as 'For Greater Glory' it shares the formers perplexing fixation on extreme self-recycling, though R&J easily wins the race.  Laying low outright romance, Horner instead opts for slavish facsimiles of two cues, namely 'Sneakers's technoid Playtronics Break-In (complete with saxophone danger motif, crashing pianos, screeching strings and angelic voices) and 'The New World's All is Lost (right down to the chord progressions), adding very little that makes R&J stand out on its own, especially thematically. What this curious combination adds to a medieval Verona setting might be answered by someone who has seen the movie (few did), it also might gives us a clue why it was thrown out.  Comparing it to Korzeniowski's Desplat-light approach, one might as well ask what exactly the filmmakers had in mind. However the circumstances, it's the one subject i couldn't imagine Horner to fail, but he did. Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,696 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,357 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 5/18/2020 at 9:33 AM, Disco Stu said: I've listened to this 3 more times since Friday. I'd say it's the most criminally underrated/under-listened-to score of the last couple years. This is immediately one of my 3 or 4 favorite McCreary scores. I've listened to it twice since your recommendation and it's really quite good! The opening track and Riding Bikes are getting ample plays here lately. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Those are the highlights for sure and cover the main themes.  The whole score is really fun to listen to and has a clear narrative structure too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Listened to the following complete scores today at work:  Raiders of the Lost Ark The World Is Not Enough Star Trek: The Motion Picture (+ alternate score)  And also on my way to work I was listening to The River OST album.  Karol  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,840 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Legends of the Fall (Intrada) by James Horner  The River (Intrada) by John Williams   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 57 minutes ago, Incanus said: Legends of the Fall (Intrada) by James Horner  The River (Intrada) by John Williams   So what do you think about the Horner expansion then?  Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,696 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 James Horner Collage  It's one of my favorite albums. SteveMc and bespinGPT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,840 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 hours ago, crocodile said: So what do you think about the Horner expansion then?  Karol Well Legends of the Fall has in common with many of the other Horner expansions in that the OST already contained most of the lengthiest pieces in the the score and the expansion offers more of the shorter connecting cues between the big sequences. But these little variations on the major themes are a welcome addition even if they do not radically alter my perception of the score (I already like the score very much) in the way e.g. Jerry Goldsmith's The Ghost and the Darkness did. I purchased this score both because I really like the music and to support Intrada in these trying times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Heard bits of the new interview with Doug Adams and Jim Ware that TheOneRing.Net posted today and that made me want to listen to those at work:  The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies  Phew, that's over 6 hours!  Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,371 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 My trimming and rearranging of Child’s Play 2.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Here's mine: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020  Willow by Robert Schumann, Sergei Prokofiev and Sergei Rachmaninoff adapted and conducted by James Horner  Karol Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 RATFLMFAO! Post of the week! Ps, don't forget Mozart! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Bill Conti’s score for The Thomas Crown Affair is seriously underrated.  Some hidden classic cues in there.   SteveMc and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,357 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Creed and Creed II by Ludwig Göransson Not a bad choice for the Discord's first planned listening session in a few months (thanks for joining again @SteveMc and @Holko). Göransson's unique blend of styles spanning from hip-hop to top-notch orchestral writing is on full display here. We edited out the dialogue from the first OST and skipped the hip-hop songs from the second (kept Runnin obviously, as it's a further testament to the scores fantastic sound pallet) so it all played out rather smoothly. Looks like we might shoot for Black Panther next time, to keep on the Ludwig train, which'll be fun.  also...  Rim of the World by Bear McCreary The Bourne Identity by John Powell The Bourne Supremacy by John Powell The Bourne Ultimatum by John Powell Jason Bourne by John Powell The Da Vinci Code by Hans Zimmer Death Wish by Ludwig Göransson Escapades for Alto Saxophone & Orchestra by John Williams (ah, that hits the spot!) SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,675 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Romeo and Juliet by James Horner So, I guess I've got to go with the prevailing consensus I guess. Tis pleasant, but not really a classic by any means. It's just Horner being Horner, and he was Hornered better in other places. Similarity and self-quotation abounds in a lot of his music, but here a unique identity, some new musical purpose or thematic tie in with the film seems to be missing. Apart from a couple of cues and the love theme/song, it simply does not sound like it was made to accompany Shakespeare. It kind of feels like the score for a dramatic live action Balto or American Tail or something. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 49 minutes ago, SteveMc said: It kind of feels like the score for a dramatic live action Balto or American Tail or something.  That sounds a bit disturbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,675 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020  1 hour ago, gkgyver said:  That sounds a bit disturbing The former would end being a feel good family flick, the latter would have humans instead of mice, obviously.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,622 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, SteveMc said: The former would end being a feel good family flick, the latter would have humans instead of mice, obviously.   Live action American Tail would have humans playing mice through motion capture, with results similar to last year's Cats.  Speaking of which, I've hear Fievel Goes West today. The first one is better, but this is still pleasant and charming. I miss this Horner that knew how to have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,675 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 His animation scores are the peak of his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Just listening to this. I don't believe for a second producers care about a composer repeating his own material. I think Horner's music was too intricate and intelligent for the producers. Seriously. It's exactly the kind of score that's classical and well written that people with no taste and understanding call "outdated". I tried to listen to the replacement score by AK when it was released, and to me it's emotional wallpaper. Good emotional wallpaper, but wallpaper. Wouldn't listen to it ever again because there's nothing to latch on to. Horner did the same thing AK did, but with more class. Way more class. I can hear why Horner got replaced, and not in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,675 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, gkgyver said: Good emotional wallpaper, but wallpaper. Wouldn't listen to it ever again because there's nothing to latch on to. Horner did the same thing AK did, but with more class. Way more class. I can hear why Horner got replaced, and not in a good way. This is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,647 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 AK's score has one very good theme that has very few moments. One. The rest is full of modern scoring tropes. The kind of mechanical string and piano churning that makes me whince and roll my eyes. Horner's score doesn't sound like it was written for Shakespeare? 1. I beg to differ, and 2. if that were the case, AK's score doesn't sound like that either and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,675 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Well, Abel's score's merits or issues are not what I am talking about. A lot of Horner's score sounds more swashbuckling and even action oriented rather than romantic and dramatic.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Horner's themes are not very good, apart from the ransacked 'Playtronics Break In', especially the love theme is weak. In the end, it's probably more a problem o the movie, which frankly looks ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020  Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by James Newton Howard. I like this score and I don't. I never really have the urge to listen to it but there are some really good themes in this - especially as presented in the suites at the end of the DE album. I think what Howard does really successfully is establish a different location in which this story takes place. While the other 8 scores had a more European flair this one definitely feels American. But it's still the same universe. And while I can't say that I exactly love this the score it is definitely stronger than the last four scores in the Potter film series. As a whole package anyway. Those had more memorable individual moments but were not as consistently well crafted.  Karol Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 9,622 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Honey, I Shrunk the Kids  *puts on the OST on YouTube*  *track 1 starts*  Me: What the heck that cartoon music used in commercials for Cartoon Network when I was a kid is doing here?  Kleptomania aside, this is one of Horner's funniest scores. If you manage to forgive his stealing, it's a very entertaining score. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 5 hours ago, crocodile said:  Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by James Newton Howard. I like this score and I don't. I never really have the urge to listen to it but there are some really good themes in this - especially as presented in the suites at the end of the DE album. I think what Howard does really successfully is establish a different location in which this story takes place. While the other 8 scores had a more European flair this one definitely feels American. But it's still the same universe. And while I can't say that I exactly love this the score it is definitely stronger than the last four scores in the Potter film series. As a whole package anyway. Those had more memorable individual moments but were not as consistently well crafted.  Karol  Scores like this really frustrate me. Because there are clearly some really lovely ideas, they always seem to inevitably get buried by generic blockbuster tropes. And I know JNH is capable of better than that. Incanus and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,840 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, KK said: Â Scores like this really frustrate me. Because there are clearly some really lovely ideas, they always seem to inevitably get buried by generic blockbuster tropes. And I know JNH is capable of better than that. Â Agreed wholeheartedly. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020  Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald by James Newton Howard. If the first score was occasionally bit on the generic side this one is probably even more problematic. This is actually only my second listen as I didn't like it at all when it first came out. Honestly, it is not that bad. There is some strong material in there. The problem lies in the more introspective and increasingly modern sound that Howard decides to employ in this more suspenseful film. There are some good variations on the old film and a couple of nice new ideas. It's solid, just not as remarkable as it should have been.  Also listened to Hidalgo earlier. Now, this is a very good James Newton Howard score. It might not be one of his major titles but in my opinion it is better than many other more popular works from the composer. It's a curious mix of western (genre too) and eastern influences. The album, while brief, is enjoyable from start to finish. I was told there is a lot of worthy material missing so I'd be really happy to have an expanded set being announced sometime soon.  Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,357 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Succesion by Nicholas Britell The album for Season 2 was released digitally on Friday, so I listened to both seasons in, well, succession. Together they make for an easy-to-dig-into serving of Baroque tendencies with a modern edge (see hip-hop). Season 1 is an enjoyable assortment, albeit mostly comprised of variations of the main title and end title themes. While these many iterations are superb, Season 2 takes a different path, maintaining the same sound but adding a healthy amount of completely unique cues to the repertoire. Highly reccomended! Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 1,091 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 THE ELEPHANT QUEEN - ALEX HEFFES  The guy has rather a few African-flavoured scores under his belt (THE LAST KING OF SCOTLAND, MANDELA: THE LONG WALK TO FREEDOM, QUEEN OF KATWE and the heartbreaking THE FIRST GRADER - which I was lucky enough to hear a live extract from in Ghent back in 2012).  This one is mostly more light-hearted but still has moments of subtle beauty. I'm a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Not a score as such but for no reason went through my library plucking any SW track with the Imperial theme in so for example "Clash of Lightsabers" or McNeely's "Destruction of Xizor's Palace." Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Dutton 7,696 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Â To get in the mood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 It's a great score, to be sure, but...in the mood for what, Pub? Easter's gone, and Christmas is almost seven months away. There's Ascension and Pentecost, but that's just about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Tadlow, you fool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Ah, yes. Tadlow you fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I've never heard of Something went wrong, please try again later score. Any good?   The Fellowship of the Ring. Even people who dislike this have to admit for a 3-hour work this flows exceptionally well.  Karol Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 The Two Towers The Return of the King The Great Train Robbery Alien The Aviator  Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, crocodile said: The Great Train Robbery  Is it great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,809 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:  Is it great? Yes, it is really good.  Karol Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Â The Really Good Train Robbery Kasey Kockroach and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,482 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 It's the best score about a robbery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 ...that involves trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,868 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 ...and Crystal Palace    14 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:  Is it great? Yes! It's damn good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 1,091 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 DA 5 BLOODSÂ - TERENCE BLANCHARD Â First listen... very impressive so far. Jules and publicist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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