publicist 4,643 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Before that, dramas were rather durm and strang instead of delicate and sensitive. It reminds me that it’s astounding that Elmer never won a best score Oscar. Definitely robbed. Several times. I don't think that's true (think of Copland's scores like 'Red Pony'), but this might be the first with a main title sequence framing a story in such a way. Neither Robert Mulligan nor Bernstein pushed for that scene (it came by accident), but it lifted the movie to another level, because it could have been also a Greg Peck courtroom movie, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 18 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: It reminds me that it’s astounding that Elmer never won a best score Oscar. Definitely robbed. Several times. He did 1967 for "Thoroughly Modern Millie". Just listened again to "The Age of Innocence". I didn't like the movie so much. It was the time of the followers of movies like"Les Liasons Dangereux" and this one I didn't find particularly interesting. But the score is great. Elmer Bernstein is especially good with themes. I cannot say, that the normal underscore in the movies is so outstanding like Williams'. But his themes, especially his main themes... Brillant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 hours ago, publicist said: I don't think that's true (think of Copland's scores like 'Red Pony'), That's one example. I suppose it depends on how you define drama and "gentle drama score", but some other candidates would be THE SONG OF BERNADETTE, JANE EYRE, PEYTON PLACE (I always found this to be a TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD precursor, sort of), BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S etc. This is a must-have for every serious film music fan that is even remotely interested in scores outside Hollywood and the US, IMO. A superb 2CD set covering the career of Bøhren & Åserud, who completely ruled the Norwegian film music scene in the 80s and 90s. Ethereal synths, orchestral fantasy, tangos, klezmer, Viennese waltzes and everything inbetween, showcasing their huge scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Spotlight on John Williams (Kevin Griffiths) Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Andy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 After his highly impressive GAGARIN: FIRST IN SPACE (2013), I was waiting for Kallis to wow me again. It took a while, and there have been a few "misses" along the way, but this 2020 score comes pretty close. Softspoken, melancholic and sweeping. My cup of tea. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Hmm. That sounds very nice. I'll investigate, post haste. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 6 hours ago, GerateWohl said: I cannot say, that the normal underscore in the movies is so outstanding like Williams'. But his themes, especially his main themes... Brillant. I find especially both the underscore and the themes - americanized Brahms - much more sophisticated than Williams' own scores of that time (middlebrow stuff like 'Far and Away'). Williams came around a few years later (when he started to feature prominent players from the classical world, especially in 'Tibet', which is the first Williams where i noticed the concertant approach, though this was mostly the concert suite). Either way, Bernstein was the most-rejected film music composer, so a case could be made that his more idiosyncratic style didn't do him mich good after his prime (he chose many interesting movies like 'The Grifter', 'The Field' etc., also rather uncommon for such a famous guy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 To this day I don't understand, how a guy like Elmer Bernstein happened to score crap like Wild Wild West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Because it was a lot of crap on the menu. It was around the time Goldsmith scored 'Deep Rising', Goldenthal 'Batman and Robin' and Horner 'Deep Impact' and 'Mighty Joe Young' (Williams got 'Stepmom', and to be honest, choosing between that and some of the others options, 'Stepmom' would still take the booby prize). GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Gabriel Yared le matin, just relaxxx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 8:00 PM, GerateWohl said: To this day I don't understand, how a guy like Elmer Bernstein happened to score crap like Wild Wild West. Find a composer who hasn't scored something bad at some point in their career - I'd pretty much guarantee you won't find one, and you still generally get a good score out of it. Wild Wild West is one of my favourite scores - he and Peter certainly gave the film their best, even if the film is a bit dodgy (I like it more than some). --- I'm currently listening a lot to Gladiator and I'm constantly reminded of how well produced the album is if you take it purely on its own terms. The Battle and Elysium are easily in my top cues list. I hope so much that it's either on the BF slate, or being worked on by someone. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 publicist and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,078 Posted November 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2022 It’s November. Here in Upstate New York, the red leaves have gone to brown or fallen altogether and the Winter chill is announcing itself. So…. Trifecta. LSH, Naïve Old Fart and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Yes, Winter is on the horizon but it still feels mildly Autumnal here in the UK... so here is one of my favourites that evokes the season (and one that has featured heavily in my ever-evolving Afternoon Walk playlist lately): There are distinct pre-echoes of scores such as The New World and The Spiderwick Chronicles - that lovely 'in nature' palette of Horner's - but the folksy stuff is nice too. This is one of those smaller projects Horner did where you can hear and feel the genuine heart in it. You really can feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A24 4,326 Posted November 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2022 My vinyl of Jaws 2. Sounds surprisingly good. The previous owner probably didn't play it all that much. GerateWohl, Naïve Old Fart, Andy and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life. It's not Silvestri's finest work, obviously, but I find enough pleasant material in there to purchase the new deluxe edition. Plus my old CD was badly cracked and unplayable anyway. It is a bit puzzling choice for an expansion as the old album covered the ground well already but I still managed to find a couple of things that weren't on there already. I might create an alternate 45-55-minute OST programme to enjoy. Also listened to Death Becomes Her yesterday. It was goodm Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 hours ago, AC1 said: My vinyl of Jaws 2. Sounds surprisingly good. The previous owner probably didn't play it all that much. His loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,943 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Free Willy 1, 2 & 3 - Basil Poledouris & Cliff Eidelman 3 wonderful scores. Though I wish there was more material on the albums from Poledouris. Nontheless, great! Yavar Moradi and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 3,361 Posted November 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2022 4 hours ago, AC1 said: My vinyl of Jaws 2. Sounds surprisingly good. The previous owner probably didn't play it all that much. I adore the "New Music" tag. I read somewhere that when The Empire Strikes Back came out as a double LP that one of the distributors complained that it only had "two new songs" and the rest was all just... Star Wars. Naïve Old Fart, ThePenitentMan1 and Andy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tallguy said: I read somewhere that when The Empire Strikes Back came out as a double LP that one of the distributors complained that it only had "two new songs" and the rest was all just... Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tallguy said: I adore the "New Music" tag. I read somewhere that when The Empire Strikes Back came out as a double LP that one of the distributors complained that it only had "two new songs" and the rest was all just... Star Wars. To be honest, without the tag, I too would have feared that it was going to be another album filled with dun dun dun dun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,361 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, AC1 said: To be honest, without the tag, I too would have feared that it was going to be another album filled with dun dun dun dun. Because that is totally the entire album of Jaws. I mean Night Search? The Indianapolis Story? It just never stops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 49 minutes ago, Tallguy said: Because that is totally the entire album of Jaws. I mean Night Search? The Indianapolis Story? It just never stops! You know what I mean! You know what I mean! Tallguy and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,361 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 12 hours ago, LSH said: Yes, Winter is on the horizon but it still feels mildly Autumnal here in the UK... so here is one of my favourites that evokes the season (and one that has featured heavily in my ever-evolving Afternoon Walk playlist lately): There are distinct pre-echoes of scores such as The New World and The Spiderwick Chronicles - that lovely 'in nature' palette of Horner's - but the folksy stuff is nice too. This is one of those smaller projects Horner did where you can hear and feel the genuine heart in it. You really can feel it. It sounds like if the cast of Firefly was in Sneakers. I loved it. 14 hours ago, Andy said: It’s November. Here in Upstate New York, the red leaves have gone to brown or fallen altogether and the Winter chill is announcing itself. So…. Trifecta. Only got through Stepmom so far. Lovely. I'm listening while the trucks are collecting the leaves here in Ohio. The trees are bare (and the sky is gray). Naïve Old Fart and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 4 hours ago, AC1 said: To be honest, without the tag, I too would have feared that it was going to be another album filled with dun dun dun dun. I haven't counted, but my gut says Jaws 2 has at least as much of that as the original. In different variations though, and both scores have a lot besides that of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 7,982 Posted November 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2022 Rudy. Very nice, probably one of Jerry's sweetest themes. Some of it feels almost Hornery. And some French horn and woodwind passages remind me of Williams. Really sweet. I am really happy I bought this, it really helps me relax tonight. Karol Yavar Moradi, Andy and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 L.A. Confidential (recording sessions) (Jerry Goldsmith) Quite good score, reminds me of parts of Basic Instinct sometimes, but I'm not sure it works in session format. Would be curious to listen to a complete release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 One could be coming this Friday filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Jay said: One could be coming this Friday Yes, I had seen that, that's why I decided to listen to it to remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,281 Posted November 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2022 Ludwig Göransson - The Mandalorian (Season 1) I listened to my own short playlist of highlights I made a while back, then wanted and listened to @Holko's highlights album. Damn, all these years later, I still like this score A LOT. So many cool themes that get developed through the season. And the main theme is just a banger. Really looking forward to season 3's score, especially since season 2's was so affected by the pandemic. Yavar Moradi, Andy and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,078 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 From the YouTube leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,982 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 City Hall. You might think I am absolutely out of my mind but this is one of my very favourite Jerry Goldsmith scores. While I do have a tremendous respect for both Chinatown and L.A. Confidential, it is this entry out of Jerry's "urban trilogy" that I listen to the most. I am hoping Varese will upgrade it soon. Karol Tom Guernsey and Marian Schedenig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I think that's one of @Yavar Moradi's favorites too Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,585 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 16/11/2022 at 5:31 AM, JNHFan2000 said: Free Willy 1, 2 & 3 - Basil Poledouris & Cliff Eidelman 3 wonderful scores. Though I wish there was more material on the albums from Poledouris. Nontheless, great! The original Free Willy album honestly has ALL the highlights from that score and was a brilliantly constructed half hour of score. Longer than the Eidelman Free Willy 3 album from Varese! It’s Free Willy 2 that got screwed with 3 cues/just over 10 minutes of score released… and it’s the best score of the trilogy by far, in complete form (over an hour). 5 minutes ago, Jay said: I think that's one of @Yavar Moradi's favorites too I’m a big fan of it (it’s my favorite of Jerry’s 90s noir scores and I strongly prefer it to LA Confidential), but it wouldn’t make my Goldsmith top 50 so I’m not sure it quite classifies as a favorite. I guess it’s one of 100+ favorite Goldsmith scores of mine… would buy an expansion in a heartbeat, even for only 10 minutes or so of previously unreleased music. Yavar Tom Guernsey and JNHFan2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: I’m a big fan of it (it’s my favorite of Jerry’s 90s noir scores and I strongly prefer it to LA Confidential), but it wouldn’t make my Goldsmith top 50 To make a Goldsmith top-50....must be quite an insurmountable task! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,585 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 It is… which is why I haven’t done it lol. I’m just guesstimating re: City Hall, but I think there’s easily 50 Goldsmith scores I love even more. The man was just too prolific! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: ...guesstimating... The murder of the English language continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,585 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Not a big fan of Joss Whedon (or Shakespeare), huh? Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Shakespeare? Of course! Whedon? I love FIREFLY. Not a fan of portmanteau words, though, but if wish to use it, then go right ahead, my friend. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,585 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Well I'm pretty sure "guesstimate" has been around for quite a while before I used it here. It's almost as ubiquitous a portmanteau as "motel" or "smog" and I hardly think any of these are going to cause the death of a language so weird and inconsistent as English anyway. Has Whedon never gone for portmanteau words? That's surprising. Obviously Lewis Carroll was a fan... "chortle" is my favorite invented word of his. Yavar Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Apparently, "guesstimate" has been around since the mid 1930s. Bloody Yanks invented it, didn't they. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,330 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I have a whole stash of portmanteau words to splatter my posts with before brunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Don't you even dare!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I've been hearing guesstimate used in a variety of circles across my entire life. There's nothing weird or unusual about that word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,330 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Don't you even dare!!!!!!!!!!! Bigature. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Sneakers (James Horner) [complete] First time listen of the complete score. Hmmm... not among my favourite Horner scores. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 It might not be anywhere near the best score of the 90s... but it damn well has one of the best main themes. It's a fucking scorcher. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 The album cover looks like Hopkins and Baldwin are taking a massive dump in the woods Andy and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Does a bear shit in the woods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,078 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: The album cover looks like Hopkins and Baldwin are taking a massive dump in the woods 1 hour ago, LSH said: It's a fucking scorcher. Kasey Kockroach and LSH 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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