Naïve Old Fart 9,504 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Neither the film of, nor the score for THE TEMPEST, is as effective as TITUS. I appreciate your judgement on THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION, but I think that it's his greatest achievement, for cinema. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Went for a thematic twofer of customised albums last night: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 15/01/2023 at 6:47 PM, Naïve Old Fart said: I appreciate your judgement on THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION, but I think that it's his greatest achievement, for cinema. Would you recommend to me to re-listen some tracks besides the main theme? Maybe I missed something? The Force Awakens (John Williams) Apart from 2-3 new themes, I didn't find this a necessary addition to already 6 existing Star Wars soundtracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 12/01/2023 at 6:24 PM, Tallguy said: Raiders of the Lost Ark. Some mishmash of DCC and Concord. That silly little march is quite good. And while The Map Room: Dawn is still the powerhouse that it always has been, my appreciation for The Miracle of the Ark has only grown. Mostly because I actually like the Ark B theme better. (That's the one with the phone sanitizers and the marketing executives.) The older I get, the more certain I am that my two favorite tracks from this score are the opening track ("In the Jungle" in the Concorde edition) and "The Well of Souls". The textures and orchestral color are just magnificent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,087 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, filmmusic said: Would you recommend to me to re-listen some tracks besides the main theme? Maybe I missed something? Brooks Was Here would be a good start. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,341 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 On 15/01/2023 at 3:39 PM, filmmusic said: The Shawshank Redemption (Thomas Newman) Thomas Newman is not really my cup of tea, and here apart from the main theme, I stand by the same opinion. Try Meet Joe Black. That's my favourite of his. Besides that the sampler "The Film Music of Thomas Newman by City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra" is a very good collection of highlights. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,474 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Moody, but with some interesting textures. One of my favs Desplat, and -- in fact -- my most recent of him (2007) before I lost interest in most of what he does (with the possible exception of THE GHOST WRITER in 2010). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 The Imitation Game is okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,504 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 GRAND BUDAPEST HOTEL is definitely his best work for cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,474 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 His two best are GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING and THE PAINTED VEIL, but both are ages ago. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,504 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Ah, yes! I like THE PAINTED VEIL very much, both score and film. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,341 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Thor said: His two best are GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING and THE PAINTED VEIL, but both are ages ago. But the main theme of GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING sounds too similar to the Seven Years in Tibet main theme for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Some albums of my CD collection turning 10 in 2023. Marco Beltrami - World War Z Danny Elfman - Oz The Great and Powerfull Dirk Brossé, Brussels Philh - Scoring for Scorcese John Williams - The Book Thief John Williams - Rosewood (the instrumental score, expanded) John Williams - The Missouri Breaks (the original score, expanded) John Williams - Fitzwilly - Special Archival Edition Danny Elfman - Epic Howard Shore - The Desolation of Smaug Howard Shore - Ed Wood (special edition) Thomas Newman - Saving Mr. Banks James Newton Howard - Wyatt Earp (expanded) James Newton Howard - Dave (expanded) James Horner - Cocoon (expanded) Danny Elfman - Black Beauty (expanded) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,304 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Lalo Schifrin - Earth Star Voyager One of those scores I can listen to over and over again and love it every time and never get sick of it Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 20 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Try Meet Joe Black. That's my favourite of his. Just listened to it. I certainly liked it much much better that The Shawshank Redemption. Still, I think, that Thomas Newman is not really my cup of tea. But IIRC, I may have enjoyed Little Women even more. I should listen to it again. 1 hour ago, Jay said: Lalo Schifrin - Earth Star Voyager One of those scores I can listen to over and over again and love it every time and never get sick of it Huh? Never heard of it and I see there's no official release. How did you listen to it? Bespin and GerateWohl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Just listened to it. I certainly liked it much much better that The Shawshank Redemption. Still, I think, that Thomas Newman is not really my cup of tea. But IIRC, I may have enjoyed Little Women even more. I should listen to it again. Thomas Newman is one of the best living veteran composers. One of the last "old-school" we have, like Shore and Silvestri. He knows how to write complex old-school orchestral scores, he can do them, but he also know how to use electronics at another level than just experimentation. Fusion, he's a fusion master! Here's the Thomas Newman scores I consider to be ESSENTIALS. Get it together, sir! PS: Remove all the songs and source cues from these OST when they have some. 1994-The Shawshank Redemption 1998-Meet Joe Black 2000-American Beauty 2002-Road to Perdition 2002-Six Feet Under (Promo) 2003-Angels in America 2003-Finding Nemo 2012-Skyfall 2013-Saving Mr Banks 2015-He Named Me Malala 2015-Spectre 2016-Less Than Zero (premiere release of the score) 2016-Passengers 2016-Finding Dory 2019-1917 2019-Tolkien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,504 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Bes, you forgot THE PLAYER, OSCAR AND LUCINDA, and THE BEST EXOTIC MARIGOLD HOTEL. Bespin and LSH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 And Fried Green Tomatoes, and Scent of a Woman, and Little Women, and Bespin and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Hey, I said ESSENTIALS. We have to start somewhere! Listen what I say, young men! You'll blink an eye, and Thomas Newman will be gone, and you'll be ashamed you didn’t know him before. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,304 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Huh? Never heard of it and I see there's no official release. How did you listen to it? I ripped all the music out of the youtube upload and listen to it with all the dialogue and sound effects included because I have no other way of listening to this great score. Just listen to the gorgeous cue that opens the film (the first 38 seconds are completely clean) filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,504 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bespin said: Hey, I said ESSENTIALS. We have to start somewhere! Listen what I say, young men! You'll blink an eye, and Thomas Newman will be gone, and you'll be ashamed you didn’t know him before. You wanna start somewhere? AMERICAN BEAUTY THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION ANGELS IN AMERICA In that order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 The key of listening to film music is not to listen to a dark thriller score, when you are in the mood for a big epic adventure score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Bespin said: One of the last "old-school" we have, like Shore and Silvestri. I wouldn't call him much "old-school". For one, he hasn't got, I think, strong thematic profiles in his scores, like say Williams, Goldsmith, Horner etc. Scent of a woman (Thomas Newman) You can say a lot of things about me, but you can't say I'm not trying. I have already listened to 3 Thomas Newman soundtracks. Of course I know American Beauty but there are a few other scores I want to re-listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,341 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 One issue, that I have with Thomas Newman's music is, that even his orchestral scores are mixed and sound like pop music to a certain degree. Like the late Horner and James Newton Howard today. It is such an unnatural sound for me. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 hours ago, filmmusic said: Huh? Never heard of it and I see there's no official release. How did you listen to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, filmmusic said: I wouldn't call him much "old-school". He's classical trained!!! And he can do backflips too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,474 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, filmmusic said: Scent of a woman (Thomas Newman) You can say a lot of things about me, but you can't say I'm not trying. That's true, but I think it would be more fruitful to first chart your taste, and then tailor the T. Newman recommendations accordingly. For example, I separate his work roughly into early electronic scores, broad Americana and minimalist quirk (personally, I dig all of them for different reasons). That's not to say you'll like any of these, or that he doesn't have more aspects than that, but it's a way to start. For example, he channels some of his father's Golden Age sensibilities in THE GOOD GERMAN. Perhaps that is closer to your liking? Or maybe not. You'd have to tell us what you like first (that's what SHE said!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Oscar and Lucinda (Thomas Newman) Ok, I don't deny that Newman scores, are well crafted. Good orchestrations, textures etc. But in the end, I can't seem to recall anything. In this specific one, I don't see any thematic unity too. Is there? (I'm asking anyone who knows the score better) @Thor I listened to The Good German too. It had a recurring theme or two, but the same comment above (about not easy recognizability of themes), applies here. I think I'll give up and listen to other composers now... Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Geez, it's not like if Thomas Newman was the "broccoli" of film music composers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 That's actually a fitting description. Thomas Newman's music is like background music from movies. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,393 Posted January 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2023 This anti-Newman attitude of these last few posts outstayed their welcome. I think I'm going to listen to The Horse Whisperer for the millionth time. Mr. Who, LSH and Bespin 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,474 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 hours ago, filmmusic said: Oscar and Lucinda (Thomas Newman) Ok, I don't deny that Newman scores, are well crafted. Good orchestrations, textures etc. But in the end, I can't seem to recall anything. In this specific one, I don't see any thematic unity too. Is there? (I'm asking anyone who knows the score better) @Thor I listened to The Good German too. It had a recurring theme or two, but the same comment above (about not easy recognizability of themes), applies here. I think I'll give up and listen to other composers now... Sorry to hear it. OSCAR AND LUCINDA is in my top 3 T. Newman of all time. Perhaps he's not for you. LSH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 8 hours ago, filmmusic said: Oscar and Lucinda (Thomas Newman) Ok, I don't deny that Newman scores, are well crafted. Good orchestrations, textures etc. But in the end, I can't seem to recall anything. In this specific one, I don't see any thematic unity too. Is there? (I'm asking anyone who knows the score better) @Thor I listened to The Good German too. It had a recurring theme or two, but the same comment above (about not easy recognizability of themes), applies here. I think I'll give up and listen to other composers now... How many listens? You need more than one per Miklos Rozsa. (The first is to "get the shape of it") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 "Anti-Newman"??? I won't have any of that! Have you heard this sumptuousness... ness... ness, ness? This colourful cue fills me with so much joy... and reminds me of my travels through India. Gorgeous score. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said: How many listens? You need more than one per Miklos Rozsa. (The first is to "get the shape of it") I listened to them once now, but I had visited them again in the past. Maybe a couple of years ago. Faleel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,504 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, filmmusic said: I listened to them once now, but I had visited them again in the past. Er... doesn't that mean that you've listened to them twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Er... doesn't that mean that you've listened to them twice? Yes, but I didn't remember anything. So it was like first time now. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 Check your heartbeat if this does nothing for you Naïve Old Fart, LSH and filmmusic 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,304 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Gustavo Santaolalla - The Last Of Us (Vol. 2 OST) I love these games, but never listened to their scores outside of them before. Tried out this album on a whim just now, and dug it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 22 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Check your heartbeat if this does nothing for you We desperately need a reissue of that score. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Testament (James Horner) Wow! Only 10 instruments? Let this be a lesson to all those who use the whole orchestra, without really "saying" anything. Bespin and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,504 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Yes, it's a good score. Somehow, I always pair it with THE DRESSER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Somehow, I always pair it with THE DRESSER. Haven't heard it, but I see there's no release unfortunately. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,504 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Yes. It's not even on YouTube. I typed in "the dresser soundtrack james horner", and the first thing it suggested was "james horner's self plagiarisms" @filmmusic, you're just going to have to watch the film - which is a damn fine piece of work, by the way. "STOP. THAT. TRAIN!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 787 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 First Man - Justin Hurwitz Quite a different score from Hurwitz, compared to his other Damien Chazelle scores which were more jazz oriented. Here he tends to underplay everything, and it results in a not-so-engaging listening experience, but the score is hugely effective in context. His two main ideas are instantly memorable and I love all the different arrangements and variations he puts them through, everything culminating in the powerhouse cue, "The Landing". But as great as that cue is, I think I like even more "Quarantine". It's quite simple, but there's something extremely beautiful in the restrain of the lovely duet between the harp and the theremin. I wish Hurwitz would do scores outside of his collaborations with Chazelle, not because they aren't great (I love them all so much!), but because I think it would be really interesting to hear what would he do for a director with a radically different vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 John Williams - The Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part III (2017) Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I grew up with the Sissi films which I adore, and just now I found out that there have been re-recordings of 3 suites by Conrad Pope in 2016! (Funnily enough there were people replying to my thread at FSM about a possible release back in 2016, and I hadn't seen it!) This music is among my most wanted releases since it's a masterpiece, and I would love complete releases, but I guess this will do too. Bespin and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,280 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Arabian Night (Ennio) - Would it be harsh to say that the cover art is more interesting than the score?! Basically a blind purchase - I figured an exotic/erotic Morricone score would be pretty great - where I maybe should have read about it a bit more. Most of the score is quasi-liturgical organ music and, while I do enjoy a bit of Bach or Charles Marie Widor, this didn't do a whole lot for me. Apocalypto (James Horner) - One of his more challenging scores, with much percussion and chanting, with much less in the way of lush orchestra. Perhaps one that's more effective in the film than on album, still worth a listen. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 7,984 Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 Amistad. My first listen of the expanded album. I never quite realised how much music was missing from the original album. While the Americana material isn't quite my favourite (it's fine), I always loved the more subdued percussive and vocal portions of the score. And there's quite a lot of that on this new album. It's interesting listening to this score in the context of Williams' larger body of work. Not only his other 1997 scores, with which Amistad shares quite a few similarities, but also stuff anticipating Memoirs of a Geisha (oddly) and Lincoln. I have to say it is quite a revelation to discover the whole second half of the score which creates a more intricate, if more introspective, listening experience. Karol Raiders of the SoundtrArk, LSH, Bespin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 As I (re)watched the first movie about this young photographer working for The Bugle (and not the Bulge)... here comes the Amazing Scores! Hans Zimmer - The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (Deluxe Edition) James Horner - The Amazing Spider-Man OST Danny Elfman - Spider Man (2022 expanded score) Danny Elfman - Spider Man 2 OST Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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